Tier 2 & 3 Rugby Forum

Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Posts: 932
Joined: Sun, 18 May 2014, 13:27
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 07 Sep 2017, 02:55

thatrugbyguy wrote:New competition won't be a 'rebel' league according to those connected to the idea:

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union ... yceyp.html

This would indicate this new league is looking to be sanction by the ARU and World Rugby. If this goes ahead I can't see any reason why there would be any objections. The ARU still get access to the best players from the west coast of the country, and WR gets a massive cash injection and more professional resources into Asia. It's a win-win situation for both the ARU and WR.


According to 'The Australian' Forrest is set to invest $200m into the competition. Players will enter an auction set up similar to that of the IPL and interest has been expressed not only by Hong Kong but Singapore, Japan, the PI's and even Eden Park has expressed interest in holding games.

There's already speculation that the Sydney Stars will be resurrected to compete in this structure as well.

Posts: 2957
Joined: Sat, 05 Jul 2014, 02:44
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby thatrugbyguy » Thu, 07 Sep 2017, 03:34

Any Sydney based team should be based out of Parramatta. Western suburbs needs bigger rugby presence.

Posts: 932
Joined: Sun, 18 May 2014, 13:27
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 07 Sep 2017, 03:56

thatrugbyguy wrote:Any Sydney based team should be based out of Parramatta. Western suburbs needs bigger rugby presence.


Could have been more tongue in cheek from Playford. Suits his sense of humour but yeah, if a Sydney based squad were to emerge Parramatta would be logical. Hell, if does turn out to be the Stars I'd go to watch just because they were based there.

Posts: 300
Joined: Tue, 29 Apr 2014, 14:51
National Flag:
Sri LankaSri Lanka

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby gibbs » Thu, 07 Sep 2017, 06:10

NaBUru38 wrote:
Indeed! Still, there are quite a few professional sports startups going on in India.



Like ? Only the pro Kabbadi and Hockey leagues have had some success, Because they're essentially Indian Sports and hardly anyone else outside the Sub continent plays it.. Others have been failures including the much harped about Indian football league the most followed global sport.. Mate a totally alien sport like Rugby to Indian masses will never stick

NaBUru38 wrote:Correct. But investors see numbers, not faces.


Faces are numbers, Numbers dont matter if you dont get them

Posts: 932
Joined: Sun, 18 May 2014, 13:27
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 07 Sep 2017, 07:56

gibbs wrote:
NaBUru38 wrote:
Indeed! Still, there are quite a few professional sports startups going on in India.



Like ? Only the pro Kabbadi and Hockey leagues have had some success, Because they're essentially Indian Sports and hardly anyone else outside the Sub continent plays it.. Others have been failures including the much harped about Indian football league the most followed global sport.. Mate a totally alien sport like Rugby to Indian masses will never stick

NaBUru38 wrote:Correct. But investors see numbers, not faces.


Faces are numbers, Numbers dont matter if you dont get them


Admittedly my knowledge of it is sparse but the Indian Super League looks to draw good numbers.

Posts: 1431
Joined: Sun, 20 Apr 2014, 16:57
Location: Leicester
National Flag:
Great BritainGreat Britain

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby sk 88 » Thu, 07 Sep 2017, 16:48

thatrugbyguy wrote:New competition won't be a 'rebel' league according to those connected to the idea:

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union ... yceyp.html

This would indicate this new league is looking to be sanction by the ARU and World Rugby. If this goes ahead I can't see any reason why there would be any objections. The ARU still get access to the best players from the west coast of the country, and WR gets a massive cash injection and more professional resources into Asia. It's a win-win situation for both the ARU and WR.


I think politically the ARU can't kick the Western Force out and then also block them from trying to form a league to keep rugby in WA alive. Especially with the kicker of involving countries World Rugby would love to bring on and develop.

It would look too much like a vendetta.

Posts: 2957
Joined: Sat, 05 Jul 2014, 02:44
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 11 Sep 2017, 01:58

https://thewest.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... b88595109z

Looks like the ARU may be looking to bail on Super Rugby altogether and actually align with Forrest's new league. So, in 2020 we could see a new 10-team league featuring the 5 Aussie franchises + 5 Asian teams, you'd have to think the Sunwolves might be one. :shock:

Posts: 184
Joined: Wed, 11 Jun 2014, 07:45
National Flag:
ArgentinaArgentina

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby carbonero » Mon, 11 Sep 2017, 02:33

The report you quoted says otherwise:
"The ARU would not comment on the talks however it is understood the governing body is looking at using the rebel tournament as a replacement for the National Rugby Championship that is likely to be shut down next year".

Posts: 2957
Joined: Sat, 05 Jul 2014, 02:44
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 11 Sep 2017, 02:41

It's not quoted exactly, but I think the foundations are in place for it to happen. That's how I'm reading it at the moment. Could be wrong entirely of course. I think Super Rugby's days are coming to an end and this is the next step to it happening.

Posts: 932
Joined: Sun, 18 May 2014, 13:27
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Mon, 11 Sep 2017, 04:52

thatrugbyguy wrote:It's not quoted exactly, but I think the foundations are in place for it to happen. That's how I'm reading it at the moment. Could be wrong entirely of course. I think Super Rugby's days are coming to an end and this is the next step to it happening.


Talk of it essentially being a supercharged NRC plus some Asian based sides. But I could see it evolve to being our 5 plus perhaps another, Fiji and then 5 other. Probably two from Japan, HK, Sing and one from China.

User avatar
Posts: 514
Joined: Thu, 28 Apr 2016, 14:02
Location: Las Canteras, Uruguay
National Flag:
UruguayUruguay

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby NaBUru38 » Mon, 11 Sep 2017, 18:28

Working Class Rugger wrote: Talk of it essentially being a supercharged NRC plus some Asian based sides.

That sounds more realistic.

Posts: 932
Joined: Sun, 18 May 2014, 13:27
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Tue, 12 Sep 2017, 05:15

NaBUru38 wrote:
Working Class Rugger wrote: Talk of it essentially being a supercharged NRC plus some Asian based sides.

That sounds more realistic.


Well, it will be larger than 6 teams if it does in fact work out that way. I personally think they should look to take 6 from that structure plus Fji and add 5 more to bring it to 12. Split it into two pools of six team each. Top 2 from each go through to the finals. Total 12 weeks.

Posts: 258
Joined: Sat, 26 Apr 2014, 07:43
National Flag:
JapanJapan

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Hinato » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 06:44

L'Indo Pacific Rugby Championship aura six équipes!
http://www.asierugby.net/lindo-pacific- ... quipes.php

Quels sont donc les pays ou villes asiatiques qui ont réellement les moyens d'intégrer cette future compétition?

- le Japon: cela parait complètement hors de sens. La Top League japonaise aura lieu au même moment et a un niveau de meilleure qualité en comparaison. Sans oublier que derrière, les meilleurs joueurs nippons sont engagés avec les Sunwolves en Super Rugby. Aucune utilité de lancer une franchise nippone en Indo Pacific Rugby Championship. Il vaut mieux qui plus est laisser la place aux autres nations asiatiques qui en ont plus besoin pour se développer.

- Hong Kong: temple du rugby à 7 et possédant une sélection désormais professionnelle en grand progrès sur la scène asiatique et mondiale, les Dragons sont les mieux armés pour rejoindre l'Indo Pacific Rugby Championship. La signature de quelques noms étrangers suffirait pour rendre cette équipe compétitive. Hong Kong dispose par ailleurs d'un stade mythique (Hong Kong Stadium) de 40 000 places et a donc toutes les infrastructures requises.

- la Malaisie: c'est certainement la nation asiatique qui connait l'ascension la plus fulgurante sur ces dernières années. Le rugby malaisien est en plein boom. Sa sélection est toujours en course pour la coupe du monde de rugby de 2019 au Japon, le pays aura son championnat 100% professionnel à partir de 2018 (et son calendrier ne sera pas en concurrence avec l'IPRC) et surtout la même année son futur stade national de rugby qui pourrait accueillir les matchs à domicile de sa future franchise.

Niveau joueurs, la franchise malaisienne pourrait compter comme on le sait sur son incroyable réservoir de joueurs fidjiens plus quelques noms étrangers et le retour de ses deux expatriés au Japon, l'ailier Marc Le (Hino Red Dolphins) et la star et deuxième ligne Dineshvaran Krishnan (Yamaha Jubilo)!

- la Corée du sud: bastion traditionnel du rugby en Asie malgré son faible nombre de licenciés, le pays est en train de stagner. Ses meilleurs joueurs sont professionnels au Japon et indisponibles pour la sélection, barrés par la puissance financière des clubs corporatifs nippons. La création d'une franchise sud-coréenne permettrait de regrouper tout ces talents, de les faire jouer ensemble toute la saison et de les avoir enfin disponibles pour les Roses de Sharon.

La signature de quelques joueurs étrangers en ferait une équipe solide. Qui plus est, une vingtaine de joueurs sud-coréens sans compter les dizaines de joueurs nippons d'origine coréennes évoluent actuellement sur l'archipel japonais. C'est dire le réservoir de qualité dont pourrait disposer la franchise. La Korea Rugby Union s'investira-t-elle enfin?

- la Chine: Le rugby chinois démarre de zéro. Sa sélection à XV ne joue plus depuis des années. Et la Chinese Rugby Football Association vient de lancer une grande campagne de recrutement de joueurs (chinois et étrangers) pour son futur championnat professionnel qui doit voir le jour en 2018. A l'heure actuelle, ils ne sont absolument pas prêts. Laissons les travailler de leur côté et dans le futur ils pourront sans doute-là intégrer l'Indo Pacific Rugby Championship.

- Singapour: de tout les pays et villes asiatiques cités, c'est celui qui a les meilleures infrastructures avec son Singapore National Stadium de 55 000 places qui peut avoir qui plus est le toit fermé. Mais Singapour n'a pas de réservoir de joueurs de qualité. Sa sélection est actuellement en Asia Rugby Championship Division 2 (3ème division en Asie) et avait été écrasée en 2013 par les U20 japonais 109 à 19. Si Singapour doit accueillir une franchise, ce serait probablement une équipe des îles du Pacifique (Samoa ou Tonga) qui n'aurait pas les insfrastructures nécessaires là-bas.

User avatar
Posts: 1848
Joined: Tue, 15 Apr 2014, 18:36
National Flag:
RomaniaRomania

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby iul » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 07:18

Hinato's post auto translated by google:

The Indo Pacific Rugby Championship will have six teams!
http://www.asierugby.net/lindo-pacific- ... quipes.php

So what are the Asian countries or cities that really have the means to integrate this future competition?

- Japan: this seems completely out of place. The Japanese Top League will be held at the same time and has a better quality in comparison. Not to mention that behind, the best Japanese players are engaged with the Sunwolves in Super Rugby. No use to launch a Japanese franchise in Indo Pacific Rugby Championship. It is better, moreover, to give way to the other Asian nations which need it more in order to develop.

- Hong Kong: a 7-a-side rugby club with a highly professional and progressive selection on the Asian and world stage, the Dragons are best equipped to join the Indo Pacific Rugby Championship. The signing of some foreign names would be enough to make this team competitive. Hong Kong also has a mythical stadium (Hong Kong Stadium) with 40,000 seats and therefore has all the necessary infrastructure.

- Malaysia: it is certainly the Asian nation that is experiencing the most dazzling rise in recent years. Malaysian rugby is booming. His selection is still in the running for the 2019 World Cup of rugby in Japan, the country will have its 100% professional championship from 2018 (and its schedule will not compete with the IPRC) and especially the same year future national rugby stadium that could host the home games of its future franchise.

The Malaysian franchise could count as it is known on its incredible reservoir of Fijian players plus a few foreign names and the return of its two expatriates to Japan, winger Marc Le (Hino Red Dolphins) and star and second line Dineshvaran Krishnan (Yamaha Jubilo)!

- South Korea: traditional stronghold of rugby in Asia despite its low number of licensees, the country is stagnating. His best players are professional in Japan and unavailable for selection, barred by the financial strength of the Japanese corporate clubs. The creation of a South Korean franchise would bring all these talents together, make them play together throughout the season and finally have them available for the Sharon Roses.

The signing of some foreign players would make a strong team. Moreover, about 20 South Korean players, not to mention the dozens of Japanese players of Korean origin, currently play on the Japanese archipelago. That is to say the quality reservoir that the franchise could have. Will the Korea Rugby Union finally get involved?

- China: Chinese rugby starts from scratch. His selection to XV has not played for years. And the Chinese Rugby Football Association has just launched a major recruitment campaign for players (Chinese and foreign) for its future professional championship which is due to open in 2018. At the moment, they are not at all ready. Let them work on their side and in the future they will no doubt be able to join the Indo Pacific Rugby Championship.

- Singapore: of all the Asian countries and cities mentioned, it is the one that has the best infrastructures with its Singapore National Stadium of 55 000 places which can have what is more the closed roof. But Singapore has no reservoir of quality players. His selection is currently in Asia Rugby Championship Division 2 (3rd division in Asia) and had been crushed in 2013 by the Japanese U20s 109 to 19. If Singapore is to host a franchise, it would probably be a team from the Pacific Islands (Samoa or Tonga ) that would not have the necessary infrastructure there.

Posts: 515
Joined: Thu, 28 Jul 2016, 19:33
National Flag:
ScotlandScotland

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 16:28

- Starts in August 2018
- 6 teams in first year
- encompassing women's and 7s rugby on the undercard of the main fixture (possibly)
- aiming at luring Aussies back from Europe and Japan with bigger pay packets.
- possible rule tweaks to further encourage running rugby and ball in play.

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/forrest ... ournament/

Posts: 932
Joined: Sun, 18 May 2014, 13:27
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 14 Sep 2017, 00:10

Bruce_ma_goose wrote:- Starts in August 2018
- 6 teams in first year
- encompassing women's and 7s rugby on the undercard of the main fixture (possibly)
- aiming at luring Aussies back from Europe and Japan with bigger pay packets.
- possible rule tweaks to further encourage running rugby and ball in play.

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/forrest ... ournament/


This will be very interesting to see how they roster these squads. Forrest has been talking about luring OS based Aussie players and apparently the ARU will also allow Aus based SR players to compete.

This could have a hugely beneficial flow on effect for Aus Rugby in bringing back a lot of talent to compete here, in the NRC and in our premier club competitions. All while deepening our professional playing base for the Wallabies. More competition should translate to players pushing themselves to keep their spots.

Ideally, one bloc of professional players would play SR and NRC while another would play IPRC. When the IPRC isn't on they can play premier club rugby helping elevate the standard even more. Which then translates into the NRc and again beyond into SR and IPRC.

Posts: 2957
Joined: Sat, 05 Jul 2014, 02:44
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby thatrugbyguy » Thu, 14 Sep 2017, 04:54

Here's my prediction:

IPRC and NRC run side by side up between Aug-Oct until 2019. At the end of 2019 the four Aussie Super Rugby sides end their involvement with Super Rugby and jump over to join the IPRC. This increases the IPRC to 10 teams. In 2020 the IPRC moves its season forward to February and becomes a full 18 game home and away league. The NRC stays were it is in August. Season will look like this:

Feb-June - IPRC regular season
July - Test matches
Late July/Aug - Playoffs
Late Aug - Rugby Championship
Aug/Sept - NRC

My guess is the remaining South African Super Rugby teams shift to the Pro 14 along with Jaguares, and the Sunwolves to either merge or replace one of the existing IPRC Asian teams. I have no idea what becomes of the NZ SR teams.

Posts: 932
Joined: Sun, 18 May 2014, 13:27
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 14 Sep 2017, 08:44

thatrugbyguy wrote:Here's my prediction:

IPRC and NRC run side by side up between Aug-Oct until 2019. At the end of 2019 the four Aussie Super Rugby sides end their involvement with Super Rugby and jump over to join the IPRC. This increases the IPRC to 10 teams. In 2020 the IPRC moves its season forward to February and becomes a full 18 game home and away league. The NRC stays were it is in August. Season will look like this:

Feb-June - IPRC regular season
July - Test matches
Late July/Aug - Playoffs
Late Aug - Rugby Championship
Aug/Sept - NRC

My guess is the remaining South African Super Rugby teams shift to the Pro 14 along with Jaguares, and the Sunwolves to either merge or replace one of the existing IPRC Asian teams. I have no idea what becomes of the NZ SR teams.


I reckon you're probably right regarding the rest of the franchises folding into the IPRC and it moving forward to assume the SR window. I also suspect that we'll see at least some level of integration from NZ around the same time. Likely taking the numbers to around 15 teams. Which will work out okay with a 14 game season plus finals. Allowing for everything to be run and won before the new July Test window. Host inbound tours and then straight into the RC.

Beyond that. I'd like to see the NRC fit the same window as you have suggested. Look to work with WR to get a combined PI team with players from Tonga and Samoa based somewhere here involved. Split it into two pools of 5 teams playing each other home and away for 8 regular season rounds. Top 2 into the finals. 10 weeks all up.

That's a pretty solid 10 months of pro Rugby.

Posts: 1431
Joined: Sun, 20 Apr 2014, 16:57
Location: Leicester
National Flag:
Great BritainGreat Britain

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby sk 88 » Thu, 14 Sep 2017, 17:06

Why do all the solutions seem to revolve around having two half-competitions instead of one whole one?

Surely the lesson from European rugby (and every other domestic Australian sport) is that you need regular games for a whole season to generate enough cash and interest to run the game?

Why not aim for 30 games, i.e. pretty much a full season? (Like Europe internationals could be rested for a few rounds to avoid burnout).

Posts: 361
Joined: Thu, 23 Feb 2017, 01:37
National Flag:
United StatesUnited States

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 14 Sep 2017, 17:12

For a game in which you do a ton of tackling...ie collision, I've never understood this idea that you need to be playing 40 matches a year as a top flight international. Rugby needs to reduce it's professional matches.

Posts: 1431
Joined: Sun, 20 Apr 2014, 16:57
Location: Leicester
National Flag:
Great BritainGreat Britain

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby sk 88 » Thu, 14 Sep 2017, 18:45

1) No one plays 40 games
2) No one is suggesting 40 games
3) Rugby needs to massively expand its professional matches to grow. You cannot be a professional team from 8 home games with 20k (max) in attendance.
4) the Suggested formats all have two competitions with a rough total of 30 games. I'm asking why not go for one comp with the same number instead.

To be totally frank i don't understand how you can claim to love rugby but not want to watch it. I'd easily watch 5 or more games each weekend across several leagues and would do that every weekend if possible. The summer without any matches drives me mental. I'd go every other weekend and sometimes mid week to a home game if I could.

Posts: 1453
Joined: Wed, 30 Apr 2014, 16:57

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby 4N » Thu, 14 Sep 2017, 18:52

sk 88 wrote:1) No one plays 40 games
2) No one is suggesting 40 games
3) Rugby needs to massively expand its professional matches to grow. You cannot be a professional team from 8 home games with 20k (max) in attendance.
4) the Suggested formats all have two competitions with a rough total of 30 games. I'm asking why not go for one comp with the same number instead.

To be totally frank i don't understand how you can claim to love rugby but not want to watch it. I'd easily watch 5 or more games each weekend across several leagues and would do that every weekend if possible. The summer without any matches drives me mental. I'd go every other weekend and sometimes mid week to a home game if I could.


Agree with all of that.

Posts: 932
Joined: Sun, 18 May 2014, 13:27
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 14 Sep 2017, 21:04

sk 88 wrote:Why do all the solutions seem to revolve around having two half-competitions instead of one whole one?

Surely the lesson from European rugby (and every other domestic Australian sport) is that you need regular games for a whole season to generate enough cash and interest to run the game?

Why not aim for 30 games, i.e. pretty much a full season? (Like Europe internationals could be rested for a few rounds to avoid burnout).


They're not half competitions. They jare two distinct structures that serve two different purposes. The IPRC is the primary professional competition. It would run for up to 20 weeks.

The NRC is very much a talent I'd and development structure. Due to our geography and the fact that we have 5 distinct city based premier club competitions it is the best way to test out the best talent from the respective structures against current professionals to see whether they have what it takes.

As for the number of games. No one expects the players to play 40 games. That's nuts. I tend to believe 30 is pushing it. I tend to agree that such is the nature of the game that anything over 25 games a season is probably too much.

But that doesn't mean I don't love watching the game. I do. I watch as much as I can. This weekend I'll watch all four NRC games, the Aid/Are game as a definite and probably two Pro14 and AP games a piece. But in my opinion we need to player welfare into account. Because without the players we have nothing to watch.

In the above structures players would be rotated, rested and not necessarily play in every game. Looking at your average pro who doesn't play internationals. If his team makes it through to the final of the IPRC he'll play a total of 18 games. He'll have about 6 weeks off between the end of the IPRC and the start of the NRC. After that he'll play a Max of 10 games in the NRC for a total of 28 games. Which would be about the average.

All this would be achieved without decreasing the overall content available. In fact it increases it.

Posts: 361
Joined: Thu, 23 Feb 2017, 01:37
National Flag:
United StatesUnited States

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 14 Sep 2017, 21:22

sk 88 wrote:1) No one plays 40 games
2) No one is suggesting 40 games
3) Rugby needs to massively expand its professional matches to grow. You cannot be a professional team from 8 home games with 20k (max) in attendance.
4) the Suggested formats all have two competitions with a rough total of 30 games. I'm asking why not go for one comp with the same number instead.

To be totally frank i don't understand how you can claim to love rugby but not want to watch it. I'd easily watch 5 or more games each weekend across several leagues and would do that every weekend if possible. The summer without any matches drives me mental. I'd go every other weekend and sometimes mid week to a home game if I could.


Aviva, Top 14, Guinness roughly have 30 matches on their schedule right now before you get to the semi-finals of each and the European knockout rounds. Then you add to the fact that most T1s are playing 12 matches. Some of these guys put 35-40 matches on their rig. If you don't think that's a healthy problem, you must have played very sparingly. Rugby is not soccer, and it needs to stop acting like it. Perhaps actually sell out the matches, Ricoh was half full in week 1. Something you'd never see on the Grid-Iron here unless you're the Rams.

I personally have a life and do more than just watch Rugby. I play Rugby and I also race triathlon. And then add to the fact that I like Grid-Iron Football. So when it comes to a weekend after I've trained in the AM in the Autumn I'm pretty much in front of my tube with either a Rugby match or Football game on. And then add some foam rolling in.

Posts: 932
Joined: Sun, 18 May 2014, 13:27
National Flag:
AustraliaAustralia

Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 14 Sep 2017, 23:30

TheStroBro wrote:
sk 88 wrote:1) No one plays 40 games
2) No one is suggesting 40 games
3) Rugby needs to massively expand its professional matches to grow. You cannot be a professional team from 8 home games with 20k (max) in attendance.
4) the Suggested formats all have two competitions with a rough total of 30 games. I'm asking why not go for one comp with the same number instead.

To be totally frank i don't understand how you can claim to love rugby but not want to watch it. I'd easily watch 5 or more games each weekend across several leagues and would do that every weekend if possible. The summer without any matches drives me mental. I'd go every other weekend and sometimes mid week to a home game if I could.


Aviva, Top 14, Guinness roughly have 30 matches on their schedule right now before you get to the semi-finals of each and the European knockout rounds. Then you add to the fact that most T1s are playing 12 matches. Some of these guys put 35-40 matches on their rig. If you don't think that's a healthy problem, you must have played very sparingly. Rugby is not soccer, and it needs to stop acting like it. Perhaps actually sell out the matches, Ricoh was half full in week 1. Something you'd never see on the Grid-Iron here unless you're the Rams.

I personally have a life and do more than just watch Rugby. I play Rugby and I also race triathlon. And then add to the fact that I like Grid-Iron Football. So when it comes to a weekend after I've trained in the AM in the Autumn I'm pretty much in front of my tube with either a Rugby match or Football game on. And then add some foam rolling in.


This may be of interest. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/spor ... -whkppff8v

PreviousNext

Return to Rugby Forum

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Baidu [Spider], Bing [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot] and 8 guests