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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby argie » Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 14:00

Some highlights APC 2017
Round 2

USA Select 49 - 36 Uruguay A


Argentina XV 85 - 15 Samoa A


Tonga A 31 - 15 Canada A

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby NaBUru38 » Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 16:51

Canalina wrote:I like this image from Americas Rugby News, with the tackle, the "ouff!" of the tackled player, the ball levitating in the air, the hands of the catcher..

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Agree, that's a great photo.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby victorsra » Sun, 15 Oct 2017, 21:11

Tonga A 31-28 Samoa A
USA Selects 45-26 Canada A
Argentina XV 82-07 Uruguay XV

Argentina XV champions
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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby TheStroBro » Mon, 16 Oct 2017, 01:43

So uh...last year we went 0-3...this year 2-1 and 2nd place.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby Coloradoan » Mon, 16 Oct 2017, 04:48

TheStroBro wrote:So uh...last year we went 0-3...this year 2-1 and 2nd place.


Scott Lawrence's coaching record is crazy good. Led the U20s to their only JWRT championship with a fairly unspectacular group (of course there were quality players, but no more so than a typical U20 side). Had great results with Life, routinely beating teams with far more big name players. And now a big improvement on past results at this level.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby cardiffrcm » Mon, 16 Oct 2017, 06:41

Coloradoan wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:So uh...last year we went 0-3...this year 2-1 and 2nd place.


Scott Lawrence's coaching record is crazy good. Led the U20s to their only JWRT championship with a fairly unspectacular group (of course there were quality players, but no more so than a typical U20 side). Had great results with Life, routinely beating teams with far more big name players. And now a big improvement on past results at this level.


USAR could do with hiring a specialist scrummaging coach, to focus on the best young talent and to coach the coaches.

I can't remember the last time I saw a match at any level where the US had even parity in the scrum.

Ryan, Waldren, Hayden, McLellan, Tarr, Lamitisole, Lee-Lo, Fifita, Pedersen, Kwasienewski & Wenglewski are all young props but mostly need training, conditioning and experience before they can become a force at international level.

McClellan looked good for the selects and Wenglewski could become the best of the lot. It will be interesting to see how they manage his final two years at Lindenwood.

I agree with you comments about Lawrence. The US U20 campaign was a shambles last season, if he had been in charge, with the talent they had, they would have qualified. The first match against what turned out to be a very average Canada team was abysmal.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby The Captain's Run » Mon, 16 Oct 2017, 13:50

TheStroBro wrote:So uh...last year we went 0-3...this year 2-1 and 2nd place.


We went 1-2 last year, beat Canada Eh but lost to Uruguay A and Fiji Warriors. Our result against Samoa, even after Hanco's red card, was nowhere near as embarrassing as the loss to Fiji last year and the results against Uruguay and Canada were notably better. I think we sent out a better roster this year and having more experience in the side helped quite a bit, which allowed new players to show what they have to offer much more than last year's group. Coaching also seemed like a step up, as others have pointed out.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby NaBUru38 » Mon, 16 Oct 2017, 14:34

victorsra wrote: Argentina XV 82-07 Uruguay XV


Ouch.

Ignacio Chans spared no criticism: http://www.referi.uy/uruguay-xv-sufrio- ... e-n1131456

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby 4N » Mon, 16 Oct 2017, 14:44



I didn't watch any of the games, but that seems unfair given what Argentina XV did to Samoa A. He's drawing conclusions from incomplete data since not everyone played each other.

Also, people care so little about this tournament that no one has bothered to update the wiki.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby TheStroBro » Mon, 16 Oct 2017, 17:28

The Captain's Run wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:So uh...last year we went 0-3...this year 2-1 and 2nd place.


We went 1-2 last year, beat Canada Eh but lost to Uruguay A and Fiji Warriors. Our result against Samoa, even after Hanco's red card, was nowhere near as embarrassing as the loss to Fiji last year and the results against Uruguay and Canada were notably better. I think we sent out a better roster this year and having more experience in the side helped quite a bit, which allowed new players to show what they have to offer much more than last year's group. Coaching also seemed like a step up, as others have pointed out.


Yeah I see it, I transposed the score against the Maple Leafs.

When it comes to coaching in specific regard to Cardiffrcm...we need a full staff similar to what a football team has. And we need that at the collegiate level. There's just so much specialist stuff with the front row, and loose forwards that only one coach for the pack doesn't help.

I have to say a bunch of lads put their hands up for MLR contracts.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby Coloradoan » Mon, 16 Oct 2017, 17:47

TheStroBro wrote:
The Captain's Run wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:So uh...last year we went 0-3...this year 2-1 and 2nd place.


We went 1-2 last year, beat Canada Eh but lost to Uruguay A and Fiji Warriors. Our result against Samoa, even after Hanco's red card, was nowhere near as embarrassing as the loss to Fiji last year and the results against Uruguay and Canada were notably better. I think we sent out a better roster this year and having more experience in the side helped quite a bit, which allowed new players to show what they have to offer much more than last year's group. Coaching also seemed like a step up, as others have pointed out.


Yeah I see it, I transposed the score against the Maple Leafs.

When it comes to coaching in specific regard to Cardiffrcm...we need a full staff similar to what a football team has. And we need that at the collegiate level. There's just so much specialist stuff with the front row, and loose forwards that only one coach for the pack doesn't help.

I have to say a bunch of lads put their hands up for MLR contracts.


Unless you're talking about the non-US sides, surely anyone who was on the USA Selects team was MLR-level already.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby TheStroBro » Tue, 17 Oct 2017, 04:20

Coloradoan wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:
The Captain's Run wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:So uh...last year we went 0-3...this year 2-1 and 2nd place.


We went 1-2 last year, beat Canada Eh but lost to Uruguay A and Fiji Warriors. Our result against Samoa, even after Hanco's red card, was nowhere near as embarrassing as the loss to Fiji last year and the results against Uruguay and Canada were notably better. I think we sent out a better roster this year and having more experience in the side helped quite a bit, which allowed new players to show what they have to offer much more than last year's group. Coaching also seemed like a step up, as others have pointed out.


Yeah I see it, I transposed the score against the Maple Leafs.

When it comes to coaching in specific regard to Cardiffrcm...we need a full staff similar to what a football team has. And we need that at the collegiate level. There's just so much specialist stuff with the front row, and loose forwards that only one coach for the pack doesn't help.

I have to say a bunch of lads put their hands up for MLR contracts.


Unless you're talking about the non-US sides, surely anyone who was on the USA Selects team was MLR-level already.


Although they may be, not all of them are under contract.

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