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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby argie » Thu, 05 Oct 2017, 12:19

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby argie » Thu, 05 Oct 2017, 12:32

Canada A Roster for Americas Pacific Challenge:
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Ray Barkwill – (Unattached/Ontario Blues) Niagara Falls, ON
Rob Brouwer – (Lindsay RFC/Ontario Blues) Lindsay, ON
Hubert Buydens – (New Orleans Gold/Prairie Wolf Pack) Saskatoon, SK
Liam Chisholm – (Castaway Wanderers/BC Bears) Kenora, ON
Conor Desmond – (Calgary Irish/Prairie Wolf Pack) Rideau Ferry, ON
Dustin Dobravsky – (Castaway Wanderers/BC Bears) Hanover, Germany
Guiseppe du Toit – (UVIC Vikes/BC Bears) Maple Ridge, BC
Andrew Ferguson – (Oakville Crusaders/Ontario Blues) Mississauga, ON
Kyle Gilmour – (St. Albert RFC/Prairie Wolf Pack) St. Albert, AB
Eric Howard – (Brantford Harlequins/Ontario Blues) Ottawa, ON
Brett Johnson – (Truro Saints/Atlantic Rock) Truro, NS
Cole Keith – (Bellesile Rovers/Atlantic Rock) Sussex, NB
Conor Keys – (UVIC Vikes/Atlantic Rock) Stittsville, ON
Ryan Kotlewski – (Westshore RFC/Prairie Wolf Pack) Calgary, AB
Martial Lagain – (Sherbrooke Abenakis/Atlantic Rock) Saint-Jean-de-Marsacq, France
Travis Larsen – (James Bay AA/BC Bears) Vancouver, BC
Karsten Leitner – (UBC Old Boys Ravens/BC Bears) Vancouver, BC
Kainoa Lloyd – (Mississauga Blues/Ontario Blues) Mississauga, ON
Aidan McMullan – (St. Anne-de-Bellevue RFC/Atlantic Rock) Montreal, QC
Peter Milazzo – (Toronto Saracens/Ontario Blues) Toronto, ON
Liam Murray – (Langley Rugby Club/BC Bears) Langley, BC
Mike Nieuwenhuysen – (Brampton Beavers RFC/BC Bears) Brampton, ON
Patrick Parfrey – (Swilers RFC/Atlantic Rock) St. John’s, NL
Robbie Povey – (Castaway Wanderers/Prairie Wolf Pack) Northampton, UK
Mitchell Richardson – (Stoney Creek RFC/Ontario Blues) Stoney Creek, ON
Lucas Rumball – (Balmy Beach RFC/Ontario Blues) Mississauga, ON
Jorden Sandover-Best – (UBC Old Boys Ravens/BC Bears) Vancouver, BC
Adrian Wadden – (Leeds Beckett University/Ontario Blues) Mississauga, ON

Canada A Staff:

Mike Shelley – Head Coach
Francois Ratier – Assistant Coach
Chris Silverthorn – Assistant Coach
Aaron Takel – Performance Analyst
Mallory White – Physiotherapist
Jalin Couper – Athletic Therapist
Caroline Aiken – Team Doctor
Mike Deasy – Strength and Conditioning Coach
Alana Gattinger – Manager
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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby argie » Thu, 05 Oct 2017, 12:38

Samoa A
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FORWARDS
Setu Enoka (Chiefs),
Alofa’aga Sao (Vikings),
Rodney Tapu (Vaiala),
Tuaniu Tuaniu (Navigators),
Tiama Viliamu (Navigators),
Ripine Fualau (Eels),
Noel Sanft (Chiefs),
Ikifusi Matamu (Eels),
Mikaele Tapili (Chiefs),
Aukusitano Ulugia (Vikings),
Joseph Fuimaono (Vikings),
Lester Sefo (Legends),
Fili Setu (Vikings),
Suamalie Tuiletufuga (capt., Navigators)

BACKS
Melani Matavao (Chiefs),
Ionatana Tino (Eels),
Ricky Pauli Ene (Vikings),
Aukuso Fruean (Navigators),
Tagaloa Fonoti (Eels),
Leia Saofaiga (Tornadoes),
Kaino Thomsen (Eels),
Elisapeta Alofipo (Vikings),
La’aloi Leilua (Moata’a),
Taimua Malielegaoi (Chiefs),
Iafeta Purcell (Legends),
Paulo Scanlan (Eels)
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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby argie » Thu, 05 Oct 2017, 12:41

TONGA A
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FORWARDS
Leiataua Kilifi,
Makasine Lutua,
Puniani Malafu,
Misinale Tuakalo,
Loiola Vea,
Solomone Kioa,
Sione Lolohea (capt.),
Tevita Heehau,
Vainanuma Manu,
Faiva Sailosi,
Atunaisa Faka’osi,
Taniela Na’a,
Koli Tonga,
Katilimoni Tu’ipulotu,
Sione Tupou

BACKS
Sione Ika,
Samiu Muna,
Sosaia Tokai,
James Faiva,
Fe’ofa’aki Kaumavae,
Paki Afu,
Soape Polutele,
Heamatangi Tu’ivai,
Paula Folau,
Posiana Kamoto,
Fetuli Paea,
Johnny Loseli,
Aisea Puaka

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby victorsra » Thu, 05 Oct 2017, 12:52

Countries really could try to give proper names to their A sides...
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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby Suiram » Fri, 06 Oct 2017, 13:27

TheStroBro wrote:Not sure the last time the 15s were ever referred to as the Falcons, I know that's what the 7s development side is called.

John Hayden is expected to replace Paddy Ryan on the USA Selects.
https://www.worldrugby.org/tournament/1804/teams/3185


US seems to have changed somewhat from the original announcement. Don’t remember seeing Hanco in there.

Either way, excited by the amount of high quality young players listed and those missing...in context of depth

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 07 Oct 2017, 01:35

Hanco was on the side originally, the only change was Paddy Ryan not coming. Those Jerseys are ugly as can be.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 07 Oct 2017, 14:42

Today I won't go. I may attend the Uruguay-Argentina match.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby argie » Sat, 07 Oct 2017, 15:16

World Rugby broadcast the tournament.
https://www.worldrugby.org/tournament/1804/
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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby marvinparsons » Sat, 07 Oct 2017, 19:13

Didn't watch, but Canada took an absolute pounding from Argentina it looks like. Anybody who watched have some insight? I'm guessing Argentina simply dominated in all faucets given the score.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby grande » Sat, 07 Oct 2017, 19:53

Canada's defence was shocking, and had terrible decision making. Moving forward? Better kick the ball away!

Honestly, scrums and lineouts were pretty even. It was open play where they faltered.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 08 Oct 2017, 12:29

Uruguay 'A' beat Tonga 34 - 25

http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2017/1 ... ame-tonga/

The result which Canadians didn't want to post ;) is Argentina XV 71 - 17 Canada.

And... Samoa 48 - 26 USA Select XV with USA's Hanco Germishuys sent off for punching a prone Samoan early in the 2nd half.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby 4N » Sun, 08 Oct 2017, 12:53

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:Samoa 48 - 26 USA Select XV with USA's Hanco Germishuys sent off for punching a prone Samoan early in the 2nd half.


Not much of a 'punch', but still it was dumb.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeHFrechet ... 40/photo/1

What makes matters worse is he's way too small to ever be a test rugby forward.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby Suiram » Sun, 08 Oct 2017, 14:16

He does look like he was getting choked out by the Samoa forward which sucks but I have trouble giving Hanco the benefit of the doubt as he is constantly getting spun up by the opposition and doing stupid shit or whining to the ref. Hopefully he starts growing up a bit.

The idea he is too small led to his little stint as a hooker. But I would generally disagree. 6’1 240 would be fine as a 6. We are not talking about being first choice for the All blacks. Just the eagles. There are plenty of back rows playing in top tier club rugby shorter than 6’3 or 6’4.

We have more than enough height elsewhere for line outs

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby 4N » Sun, 08 Oct 2017, 14:25

He's totally developed physically (don't think he can get much bigger) and unlike most American players probably won't improve much more because he has been playing the game so long. Nothing against Hanco the person, but Hanco the international player I'm not bright on his future.

Small expats holding spots from raw American players with a higher 'ceiling' is one of my biggest pet peeves.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby sammo » Sun, 08 Oct 2017, 16:14

I think calling him an expat is a bit disingenuous, he moved to the States in 04, when he was like 7/8 years old, and has been developed entirely in the American system apart from a few months at Gloucester. There are some players which fit your peeve, but he isn't one of them

EDIT: Looks like the USA rugby website is wrong, Hanco's father moved to the states when he was 7/8 and Hanco followed 5 years later, still while he was high school age, but not as young as I thought

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby Suiram » Mon, 09 Oct 2017, 01:18

My understanding is he came in his early teens. The idea that he is not a true American is really just bullshit. Anyone who came here as a kid and still identifies as American is an American not an expat.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby 4N » Mon, 09 Oct 2017, 02:01

He played overseas first and his father played, correct? Pretty much an expat in rugby terms to me. I'm sure he feels American, that's not what I'm saying. No insult meant.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby TheStroBro » Mon, 09 Oct 2017, 03:21

sammo wrote:I think calling him an expat is a bit disingenuous, he moved to the States in 04, when he was like 7/8 years old, and has been developed entirely in the American system apart from a few months at Gloucester. There are some players which fit your peeve, but he isn't one of them

EDIT: Looks like the USA rugby website is wrong, Hanco's father moved to the states when he was 7/8 and Hanco followed 5 years later, still while he was high school age, but not as young as I thought


We can't really call him some expat. He was a 4x HSAA selection and also a MJAA. That's about as American as you can get playing Rugby in the US. Much different than AJ MacGinty or James Bird.

As far as how we played...Samoa A is just better, they see each other often and their club level of play is higher. If you're going to field a mostly amateur side, then you need to assemble them much earlier to practice together rather than doing a one off every summer which seems to be case. Another reason why we're just not there with the Eagles because they only form in Test windows and don't have camps throughout the year.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby Canalina » Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 12:59

I like this image from Americas Rugby News, with the tackle, the "ouff!" of the tackled player, the ball levitating in the air, the hands of the catcher..

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby rusty_lock » Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 17:30

Another shocking and dismal performance.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby marvinparsons » Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 18:50

rusty_lock wrote:Another shocking and dismal performance.


Worse than the score indicates as Tonga was playing a man short and just riding out the clock for the last ten minutes when Canada scored two tries. Was 35-3 prior tp that. The Tongan wings were smashing our biggest forwards. Big and powerful team.

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby Suiram » Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 23:10

USA looked much better today. Defense was still suspect but they had a real attacking pattern. That’s how they failed against Samoa.

But still makes you wonder what if without the red card. It would have still been a high scoring affair. Easily could have been 35-32

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Re: Americas Pacific Challenge

Postby snapper37 » Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 01:41

rusty_lock wrote:Another shocking and dismal performance.



The fact is we aren't very good at any level beside the females. Get used to it

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