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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby victorsra » Thu, 14 Sep 2017, 21:00

South American B:

Oct 7th - Peru vs Colombia in Lima
Oct 14th - Peru vs Venezuela in Lima
Oct 21st - Colombia vs Venezuela in Medellin
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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 15 Sep 2017, 11:24

Confirmed by the German union:

November 11th: Germany vs. Brazil in Leipzig, Bruno-Plache-Stadion (capacity: 10.900)
November 18th: Germany vs. USA in Wiesbaden (30km from Frankfurt airport) Brita Arena (cap.: 12.566)
November 11th: Germany vs. Chile in Offenbach (19km from Frankfurt airport), Sparda-Bank-Hessen-Stadion am Bieberer Berg (cap.: 20.500)

Bruno-Plache-Stadion which is quite an old stadium with a athletics track around.
Wiesbaden and Offenbach are new stadiums built within the last 10 years. Imho both absolutely perfect selections.
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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 15 Sep 2017, 11:31

It's a shame the worst game will be played in the best stadium.

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby rugby.change » Fri, 15 Sep 2017, 13:22

Updated End-of-year internationals:

21 October - Australia v New Zealand - Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane (Bledisloe Cup lll)

24 October - Classic Australia v Barbarians (Coached by Alan Jones) - Crozier Field, Lismore
28 October - Australia v Barbarians (Coached by Alan Jones) - Allianz Stadium, Sydney
28 October - Japan v World XV (Coached by Robbie Deans) - Level5 Stadium, Fukuoka

3 November - Canada v Maori All Blacks - BC Place, Vancouver
4 November - Barbarians (Coach by Robbie Deans) v New Zealand - Twickenham Stadium, London
4 November - Japan v Australia - International Stadium Yokohama, Yokohama
4 November - Namibia v Asia Pacific Dragons - TBA

10 November - Tonga v Barbarians - Thomond Park, Limerick
10 November - French Barbarians v Maori All Blacks - Stade Chaban-Delmas, Bordeaux
11 November - Italy v Fiji - Stadio Angelo Massimino, Catania
11 November - Scotland v Samoa - BT Murryafield Stadium, Edinburgh
11 November - England v Argentina - Twickenham Stadium, London
11 November - Wales v Australia - Principality Stadium, Cardiff
11 November - Ireland v South Africa - Aviva Stadium, Dublin
11 November - France v New Zealand - Stade de France, Saint-Denis
11 November - Georgia v Canada - Mikheil Meskhi Stadium, Tbilisi
11 November - Germany v Brazil - Bruno-Plache-Stadion, Leipzig

Bye/TBC opponent - Japan, USA, Romania, Uruguay, Namibia

14 November - France v New Zealand - Parc Olympique Lyonnais, Lyon
18 November - Italy v Argentina - Stadio Artemio Franchi, Florence
18 November - Wales v Georgia - Principality Stadium, Cardiff
18 November - England v Australia - Twickenham Stadium, London
18 November - Scotland v New Zealand - BT Murryafield Stadium, Edinburgh
18 November - Ireland v Fiji - Aviva Stadium, Dublin
18 November - France v South Africa - Stade de France, Saint-Denis
18 November - Belgium v Brazil - King Baudouin Stadium (Annex 2), Brussels
18 November - Germany v USA - BRITA-Arena, Wiesbaden
18 November - Japan v Tonga - TBA (France)
18 November - Namibia v Uruguay - TBA
18 November - Romania v Samoa - Stadionul Arcul de Triumf, Bucharest
18 November - Spain v Canada - TBA

25 November - Italy v South Africa - Stadio Euganeo, Padua
25 November - Scotland v Australia - BT Murryafield Stadium, Edinburgh
25 November - England v Samoa - Twickenham Stadium, London
25 November - Wales v New Zealand - Principality Stadium, Cardiff
25 November - Ireland v Argentina - Aviva Stadium, Dublin
25 November - France v Japan - Stade Pierre-Mauroy, Lille
25 November - Fiji v Canada - TBA
25 November - Georgia v USA - Mikheil Meskhi Stadium, Tbilisi
25 November - Germany v Chile - Sparda-Bank-Hessen-Stadion, Offenbach
25 November - Namibia v Uruguay - TBA
25 November - Romania v Tonga - Stadionul Arcul de Triumf, Bucharest
25 November - Spain v Brazil - Villajoyosa Rugby Stadium, Alicante

2 December - Wales v South Africa - Principality Stadium, Cardiff

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby victorsra » Fri, 15 Sep 2017, 14:39

Will Chile travel to play just 1 match? It would be cool to have Belgium vs Chile on Dec 2nd.
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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 15 Sep 2017, 14:45

Maybe a game against Belgium or Portugal the following week? If I'm not mistaken these two teams have played in the past in late November or early December rather than usual Autumn window dates.

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 15 Sep 2017, 20:55

Armchair Fan wrote:It's a shame the worst game will be played in the best stadium.


While I do agree that Offenbach is the best stadium, I think that Wiesbaden should have the best atmosphere with a realistic sized stadium. Getting 10k against the USA would be great.

At least we haven't played Chile as often as Brazil.
I mean Germany played Brazil more often than any other team in the last 3 years.
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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 16 Sep 2017, 01:57

What's happening with the Hong Kong tournament?

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby victorsra » Sat, 16 Sep 2017, 10:51

I mean Germany played Brazil more often than any other team in the last 3 years.

Yes, it s 4-0 now. Let's stop before that number :lol:
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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby RugbyLiebe » Sat, 16 Sep 2017, 22:47

victorsra wrote:
I mean Germany played Brazil more often than any other team in the last 3 years.

Yes, it s 4-0 now. Let's stop before that number :lol:


I thought the magic sporting number between Germany and Brazil was 7:1 :D
So more games to come;-)
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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby IanCleverly » Wed, 20 Sep 2017, 17:38

rugby.change wrote:Updated End-of-year internationals:


25 November - Italy v South Africa - Stadio Euganeo, Padua
25 November - Scotland v Australia - BT Murryafield Stadium, Edinburgh
25 November - England v Samoa - Twickenham Stadium, London
25 November - Wales v New Zealand - Principality Stadium, Cardiff
25 November - Ireland v Argentina - Aviva Stadium, Dublin
25 November - France v Japan - Stade Pierre-Mauroy, Lille
25 November - Fiji v Canada - TBA
25 November - Georgia v USA - Mikheil Meskhi Stadium, Tbilisi
25 November - Germany v Chile - Sparda-Bank-Hessen-Stadion, Offenbach
25 November - Namibia v Uruguay - TBA
25 November - Romania v Tonga - Stadionul Arcul de Triumf, Bucharest
25 November - Spain v Brazil - Villajoyosa Rugby Stadium, Alicante



France v Japan *may* be 'moved over' to Lens, as Belgium will play France in a Davis Cup Tennis final in Lille on that weekend.

http://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/test-matc ... tory.shtml

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby victorsra » Wed, 20 Sep 2017, 21:45

I thought the magic sporting number between Germany and Brazil was 7:1 :D
So more games to come;-)


:lol: Yes, I am afraid of that number, let's stop the matches now :P
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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby victorsra » Fri, 22 Sep 2017, 04:16

Chile will play 4 matches in November: http://www.chilerugby.org/historica-gira-condores-xv/

On November 10th, 14th and 18th they will play Hong Kong, Russia and Kenya in the Hong Kong's Cup of Nations. And on November 25th they will face Germany in Frankfurt.
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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby nick511 » Fri, 22 Sep 2017, 12:30

rugby.change wrote:14 November - France v New Zealand - Parc Olympique Lyonnais, Lyon
18 November - Italy v Argentina - Stadio Artemio Franchi, Florence
18 November - Wales v Georgia - Principality Stadium, Cardiff
18 November - England v Australia - Twickenham Stadium, London
18 November - Scotland v New Zealand - BT Murryafield Stadium, Edinburgh
18 November - Ireland v Fiji - Aviva Stadium, Dublin
18 November - France v South Africa - Stade de France, Saint-Denis
18 November - Belgium v Brazil - King Baudouin Stadium (Annex 2), Brussels
18 November - Germany v USA - BRITA-Arena, Wiesbaden
18 November - Japan v Tonga - TBA (France)
18 November - Namibia v Uruguay - TBA
18 November - Romania v Samoa - Stadionul Arcul de Triumf, Bucharest
18 November - Spain v Canada - TBA


The game of NZ vs France for Lyon on the 14th, is listed as against a "France XV" on the All Blacks website, so I'm not sure of its status.

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby NaBUru38 » Sun, 24 Sep 2017, 00:38

victorsra wrote:Chile will play 4 matches in November: http://www.chilerugby.org/historica-gira-condores-xv/

On November 10th, 14th and 18th they will play Hong Kong, Russia and Kenya in the Hong Kong's Cup of Nations. And on November 25th they will face Germany in Frankfurt.


Nice!

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 25 Sep 2017, 00:28

Number of tests this year for T2/3

11 - Georgia, Brazil, Uruguay
10 - USA, Canada, Chile, Japan, Romania, Russia
9 - Namibia, Spain, Germany, Kenya
8 - Fiji
7 - Samoa
5 - Tonga

Number of tests this year for T1

14 - Australia, New Zealand
13 - South Africa
12 - Argentina
11 - England, Wales, Scotland, France, Italy, Ireland

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby IanCleverly » Mon, 25 Sep 2017, 19:52

IIRC, this usually happens before the November window, as the Netherlands will take on 'themselves' on 4th November in a game prior to starting in the Rugby Europe competition:-

http://www.rugby.nl/blog/bondscoach-gar ... n-heren-nl

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby Neptune » Tue, 26 Sep 2017, 03:39

thatrugbyguy wrote:What's happening with the Hong Kong tournament?


Good question. I actually thought Russia, Kenya, Hong Kong and Chile were to compete in the four nations tournament?

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby IanCleverly » Wed, 27 Sep 2017, 14:24

As a warm up to their Rugby Europe Trophy 'quest', the Czech Republic will play the South African Barbarians on 21st October. Quick wiki says they haven't played (the BaBas) for just over 4 years.

http://www.rugbyunion.cz/cs/article/1133

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Wed, 27 Sep 2017, 15:31

thatrugbyguy wrote:Number of tests this year for T2/3

11 - Georgia, Brazil, Uruguay
10 - USA, Canada, Chile, Japan, Romania, Russia
9 - Namibia, Spain, Germany, Kenya
8 - Fiji
7 - Samoa
5 - Tonga

Number of tests this year for T1

14 - Australia, New Zealand
13 - South Africa
12 - Argentina
11 - England, Wales, Scotland, France, Italy, Ireland


That is quite encouraging to me. Surely the gap must close in terms of quality in the years to come.

Also although Italy vs Fiji is belatedly confirmed as their Tier 2 test and will be a good contest, this is a bit disappointing and predictable to me.

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby Zhenya_Zima » Fri, 29 Sep 2017, 10:08

Neptune wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:What's happening with the Hong Kong tournament?


Good question. I actually thought Russia, Kenya, Hong Kong and Chile were to compete in the four nations tournament?



Fri 10 Nov: KEN v CHL, HKG v RUS
Tue 14 Nov: RUS v KEN, HKG v CHL
Sat 18 Nov: RUS v CHL, KEN v HKG

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby rugby.change » Fri, 29 Sep 2017, 12:11

Does anyone actually know if the France-New Zealand match on the 14 November is a test match of and "XV" match?

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby Figaro » Fri, 29 Sep 2017, 13:45

rugby.change wrote:Does anyone actually know if the France-New Zealand match on the 14 November is a test match of and "XV" match?


I can't imagine why it would be anything other than a full test match.

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 07 Oct 2017, 02:01

Bruce_ma_goose wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:Number of tests this year for T2/3

11 - Georgia, Brazil, Uruguay
10 - USA, Canada, Chile, Japan, Romania, Russia
9 - Namibia, Spain, Germany, Kenya
8 - Fiji
7 - Samoa
5 - Tonga

Number of tests this year for T1

14 - Australia, New Zealand
13 - South Africa
12 - Argentina
11 - England, Wales, Scotland, France, Italy, Ireland


That is quite encouraging to me. Surely the gap must close in terms of quality in the years to come.

Also although Italy vs Fiji is belatedly confirmed as their Tier 2 test and will be a good contest, this is a bit disappointing and predictable to me.


The fact that most of the T2's and even some T3's are playing similar number of test matches as the T1's is a very good sign indeed. The only issue now is they need to play higher ranked opponents. To me these mid-weeks matches against local teams like what the All Blacks are playing against a French XV is the perfect opportunity to have those T2/T3 matches. I know it's not the best time but I'm sure a Tuesday evening test against Romania or Georgia would still sell very well.

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Re: 2017 Schedules

Postby STMKY » Sat, 07 Oct 2017, 10:59

Russia again plays tests abroad. Germany several years in a row plays tests at home, all other countries in Europe are the same, except for Russia. It's hard to embrace. Perhaps the new leadership of the federation rugby will change the situation. Recently Artemiev was the arena of CSKA in Moscow and congratulated rugby players of CSKA in the victory at the amateur championship of Moscow. There are rumors that the commission of the world rugby was watching the stadium of CSKA.
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