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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Mon, 17 Jul 2017, 13:06

For TV money so that at least three nations are represented in the playoffs. Not a nice answer but a contest in which there is no realistic prospect of an Oz side making the playoffs is one that might be an even harder sell for their market.

And also so the conferences are relevant. If it was purely based on points it would be a bit strange of you won your conference and were eliminated.

I wouldn't have a problem with home advantage being based on ranking rather than winning a conference. Particularly for a side that lost more than they won, like the Brumbies.

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby victorsra » Mon, 17 Jul 2017, 16:22

Congrats Sunwolves! Isn't this the first Japanese win over a NZ professional team?
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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby Sables4EVA » Tue, 18 Jul 2017, 06:56

Bruce_ma_goose wrote:For TV money so that at least three nations are represented in the playoffs. Not a nice answer but a contest in which there is no realistic prospect of an Oz side making the playoffs is one that might be an even harder sell for their market.

And also so the conferences are relevant. If it was purely based on points it would be a bit strange of you won your conference and were eliminated.

I wouldn't have a problem with home advantage being based on ranking rather than winning a conference. Particularly for a side that lost more than they won, like the Brumbies.


Unfortunately money is the deciding factor but it is sad it overrules improving the quality of the competition and i think this is why people have lost interest.

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby sammo » Wed, 26 Jul 2017, 11:15

Sunwolves to Australia conference next year

https://www.asiarugby.com/2017/07/25/sunwolves/

Means a lot less travelling

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 26 Jul 2017, 15:52

sammo wrote:Sunwolves to Australia conference next year

https://www.asiarugby.com/2017/07/25/sunwolves/

Means a lot less travelling


Good if this is true. Hopefully the author didn't just missunderstand the format. Remember the Sunwolves played the teams in the Oz conference in 2016 and this season the Kiwi teams.
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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Wed, 26 Jul 2017, 15:58

It is definitely true and gives the Sunwolves a chance to become a four or five win team and continue their development. The Oz sides should in theory become marginally stronger next year by cutting a team, but they are losing so many players to Europe and Japan that this is far from certain.

Anyway this is common sense and excellent for Japanese rugby.

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 27 Jul 2017, 06:00

SANZAAR are restoring original (2011-2015) S15 model

In this case JPN plays
16 games in all:

8 at HOME (5 in Tokyo + 3 in Singapore) and 8 AWAY

Of those 8 AWAY mathces:

4 in AUS (probably on two 2-game trips)
2 in NZL (one trip)
2 in RSA|ARG (one trip)

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Compare this with current itineraries THERE >>

2017 http://ovaluri.comxa.com/2017/S18_2017_ROUTE.htm

2016 http://ovaluri.comxa.com/2016/S_TRAVEL.htm

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby TheStroBro » Mon, 31 Jul 2017, 21:14

So after watching the semi-finals this weekend...no one will be at the final har.

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby tryman » Mon, 31 Jul 2017, 22:08

The final is already sold out.

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby TheStroBro » Mon, 31 Jul 2017, 22:20

I guess that's good, still doesn't address the attendance issues all year in SA. Or this last week in both semi-finals.

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby olivier » Tue, 01 Aug 2017, 15:22

I suspect NZ franchises to slow down to maintain SA franchises in Super Rugby.

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby MikeN » Tue, 01 Aug 2017, 20:57

olivier wrote:I suspect NZ franchises to slow down to maintain SA franchises in Super Rugby.

sorry what?

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby Neptune » Wed, 02 Aug 2017, 04:37

olivier wrote:I suspect NZ franchises to slow down to maintain SA franchises in Super Rugby.

Are you trying to say that the NZ franchises will deliberately play badly to avoid S. A moving to the Northern Hemisphere?

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby olivier » Wed, 02 Aug 2017, 19:20

Neptune wrote:
olivier wrote:I suspect NZ franchises to slow down to maintain SA franchises in Super Rugby.

Are you trying to say that the NZ franchises will deliberately play badly to avoid S. A moving to the Northern Hemisphere?

Yes, they already did. And Peyper will be the referee of the final. NZ has no trust in Australia to make a viable TT Championship.

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby Bogdan_DC » Thu, 03 Aug 2017, 08:03

Also England is preparing to slow down to prevent France going in CEN.

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby olivier » Thu, 03 Aug 2017, 14:01

Bogdan_DC wrote:Also England is preparing to slow down to prevent France going in CEN.

No, Six Nations is financially viable...

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Re: SUPER RUGBY 2017

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Sun, 13 Aug 2017, 06:51

http://ovaluri.comxa.com/2017/R8/07_ZERA-20-GF+EN.htm

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