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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby Edgar » Sun, 30 Jun 2019, 17:25


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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby Edgar » Mon, 01 Jul 2019, 07:07

This has got to be great for the sport's profile in Argentina and right across the Latin American region. Just a shame it has to coincide with the Copa Americas. But it is nonetheless very timely with plans afoot to set up pro rugby on the continent.

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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby Tobar » Mon, 01 Jul 2019, 18:07

Edgar wrote:This has got to be great for the sport's profile in Argentina and right across the Latin American region. Just a shame it has to coincide with the Copa Americas. But it is nonetheless very timely with plans afoot to set up pro rugby on the continent.


It's good for the whole continent but even if the Copa America wasn't going on it would make no news outside of Argentina. Surely if they won it would make some more headlines but still won't get much attention in South America outside of existing rugby communities.

We'll find out tomorrow if Argentina makes it to the final. If not then a Jaguares championship would get a lot more attention.

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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby carbonero » Mon, 01 Jul 2019, 18:24

It doesn’t work that way. Football is in its own island. Losing won’t drive ratings down. Quite the opposite actually.

It sucks that the final is 4.35 AM local time.

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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby Edgar » Mon, 01 Jul 2019, 20:44

carbonero wrote:It doesn’t work that way. Football is in its own island. Losing won’t drive ratings down. Quite the opposite actually.

It sucks that the final is 4.35 AM local time.


Is this getting a lot of space in the Argentinean sports pages right now? Is your average Pedro in the street aware the Jaguares are going to be playing in the Super Rugby final this weekend?

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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby Tobar » Mon, 01 Jul 2019, 23:14

carbonero wrote:It doesn’t work that way. Football is in its own island. Losing won’t drive ratings down. Quite the opposite actually.

It sucks that the final is 4.35 AM local time.


I considered that too, especially since it’s against Brazil...surely the negative news will come flying if they lose.

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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby victorsra » Tue, 02 Jul 2019, 04:46

Soccer fans' first passion is for the clubs. The national team loosing only might mean people less interested in the national team (in non-WC years). Fans' passion for clubs is unaffected.
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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby Raven » Tue, 02 Jul 2019, 09:25

Jaco Peyper named as SR 2019 Final Ref.
https://super.rugby/superrugby/news/sup ... appointed/

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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby thatrugbyguy » Tue, 02 Jul 2019, 09:27

Jags victory would be be great for the sport. Going to be tough however. If they were playing at home I'd tip them to win.

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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby Tobar » Wed, 03 Jul 2019, 01:28

thatrugbyguy wrote:Jags victory would be be great for the sport. Going to be tough however. If they were playing at home I'd tip them to win.


I just wish that they were home so that if they did manage to win then that would have a huge impact on the 40,000+ fans that were present. A win for the first ever championship would be sensational and surely get more attention than if it happened 10,000 miles away. I still remember the looks on the fans faces during the quarterfinals when the ref blew the whistle for the penalty which secured the Jaguares' victory, it was pure energy and excitement.

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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 03 Jul 2019, 01:41

I'm really interested about this matche's TV audience in Argentina. To be at 4:30 AM only shows how shit is Sanzaar's organization. They are doing everything to not reach the tournament's full potential.
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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Sun, 07 Jul 2019, 16:56

24 Seasons of Super Rugby | 1996 - 2019

http://files.rugby.ge/OVA-2019/SR_TOTAL-24.htm

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Re: 2019 Super Rugby

Postby Edgar » Sun, 07 Jul 2019, 17:09

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:24 Seasons of Super Rugby | 1996 - 2019

http://files.rugby.ge/OVA-2019/SR_TOTAL-24.htm

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Nice work :thumbup:


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Re: SUPER RUGBY

Postby 4N » Fri, 20 Mar 2020, 00:24

They should do this ASAP. Lots of broadcasters desperate for live sports content.

https://amp.tvnz.co.nz/news/story/JTJGY ... FsdC1jb21w

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Re: Super Rugby

Postby 4N » Fri, 20 Mar 2020, 19:28

Australia confirm tournament with four SR teams + Western Force:

https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/03/2 ... eplacement

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Re: Super Rugby

Postby theDarky » Fri, 20 Mar 2020, 20:31

NRL doesn't stop to play too ... but if the disease would explode, their employees (the players) could be sicked

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Re: Super Rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 23 Mar 2020, 09:33

Why would they do that. There are 1700 confirmed cases in Australia. Why don't they take the virus serious?
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Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Super Rugby

Postby Thomas » Mon, 23 Mar 2020, 10:22

They have already, NRL were forced to suspend the session. Only the A-League still playing behind close doors.
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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/the-mi ... 54d3o.html[/url]

The QLD State government close their borders and brought the competition to a stand still.

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Re: Super Rugby

Postby 4N » Mon, 23 Mar 2020, 12:59

On hold until at least May 1 is the word from the Australian SR sides. Hope they can salvage something, safety is paramount obviously but players are looking at significant pay cuts otherwise.

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Re: Super Rugby

Postby Tobar » Mon, 23 Mar 2020, 16:47

If they really must do something then just allow the players to play but remain in as much of a quarantine as possible. No fans allowed, just for TV. But even then that is still risking too much.

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Re: Super Rugby

Postby Working Class Rugger » Mon, 23 Mar 2020, 17:55

Tobar wrote:If they really must do something then just allow the players to play but remain in as much of a quarantine as possible. No fans allowed, just for TV. But even then that is still risking too much.


The NRL and AFL tried that up until the last two days. But our states are now closing their borders to domestic travel and if anyone does need to cross state lines they need to self isolate for 14 days. Which makes any travel nigh on impossible.

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Re: Super Rugby

Postby eal22 » Wed, 25 Mar 2020, 00:17

I hope this is the death knell for Super Rugby in its current format. I would much prefer full-strength domestic competitions in New Zealand, South Africa, and Australia with the top few teams from each country qualifying for a Super 10 - just like in the early 90s, maybe throw in a Pacific Islands team also. I am surely not the only one who misses the glory days of the Currie Cup and New Zealand's NPC? Unrealisitic I know but one can always hope.

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Re: Super Rugby

Postby Edgar » Wed, 25 Mar 2020, 10:02

There is a tendency to view the past through rose-tinted spectacles and omit the negative points, of course. New Zealand provincial competition had run a very similar course to Super Rugby and ultimately its own failings would contribute to the creation of professional competition. Neither did the national championships have a particularly long history, contrary to popular belief, beginning only in 1976 while the All Blacks had been away in South Africa. Probably it reached its apogee in the early 1980s when provincial rugby was still strong and powerful Manawatu and Counties teams won titles. But ultimately it became a lopsided affair with the three major centers increasingly dominant, before Auckland took over completely with a team of full timers in the shamateur era and turned the competition into a farce. I remember the near-empty stands at Athletic Park during that era. Even the Auckland fans lost interest themselves in the end. Meanwhile, far from a thriving domestic competition, NSW and Queensland were starved of competition and became increasingly reliant on their neighbors across the Tasman. ACT were at about NZ 2nd division standard in those days and no other state was worth mentioning - notwithstanding a healthy club scene in Western Australia. The Currie Cup in South Africa was certainly booming, but this was no doubt due to the absence of regular international competition, so that the nation's championships were the highlight of the rugby calendar. So now the novelty has worn off and Super Rugby has suffered the same fate as New Zealand provincial rugby in the last decade of the amateur era, re-winding the clock to those halcyon days of yesteryear is not a realistic antidote. But I agree the time is ripe for taking stock and re-evaluation. I've already expressed my own preference for a gradual shift away from the unwieldy Southern Hemisphere championship and closer alignment between Oceania and East Asia, and perhaps GRR will be the kick-start to move things in that general direction. I guess we'll have to wait another year to see now.

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Re: Super Rugby

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Wed, 25 Mar 2020, 13:52

I for one like the way rugby in the Southern Hemisphere is headed. I understand the next Super Rugby season will be a 14 team single round robin regular season. Seven home games is enough to stay excited about as a supporter. Then, after a break for the July internationals, the seven team Currie Cup (3 home games). This is just the right amount of provincial rugby. Australia should have a similar competition; 4 Super Rugby teams plus Western Force, South China Tigers and Fijian Latui.
I think, these days a rugby supporter is happy to go to 10 home games and maybe an away game and an international game in a season. Less is more.

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