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Poland - looking ahead

Postby dropkick » Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:38

Having seen how Samoa benefits from having so much emigration to NZ, I think Poland can capitalise on a similar situation. Theres a huge amount of Polish and other eastern Europeans after emigration to Britain and Ireland. If a small percentage start to follow rugby and get their kids playing then Poland could see massive benefits in years to come. It won't happen in the short or medium term but longer term.


It won't be the same degree as Samoans in NZ because A, eastern Europeans don't have much of a rugby culture and B, rugby isn't as popular in Britain and Ireland. But having said that, there should be a knock on effect in future.

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Postby Geordiefalcon » Thu, 22 May 2014, 13:35

They should just start by getting Mariusz Pudzianowski in at TH... :-)

The polish do like their strong man events...and rugby might intrigue a few of them if they get introduced to it.

Like many other European countries they are beginning to get the odd player in the top european leagues. Hopefully the new European Cup and its formats can help bring more rugby experience to these countries.
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Postby Adamstown 7s » Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:45

I had a friend who told me that Welsh language Television i Llanelli in South Wales has Polish subtitles before English. Don't know how true this is but I chose to believe it. I agree though, Poland will have potential from their player pool in Britain in the (dare I say it) not so distant future.

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Postby sk 88 » Sat, 07 Jun 2014, 21:55

This is hardly a new phenomenon though. Thousands of Polish people came to Britain in the 50s too, they spoke Polish in my dad's primary school in suburban Leicester.

You get the odd one or two of the dispora playing in England, Tigers had a hooker called Marek Kwusic and a centre called Mark Jankowski in the 90s and currently have a lock in the academy called Joe Maksymiw and previously had a scrum half from Norwich with a polish name too.

France's had Skrela, Swareski, Michalak.

It might happen but I think its just as likely that a modern day Gregor Kacla is found and polish forwards earn a reputation like Georgia's.

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Postby beardy reiver » Sat, 27 Sep 2014, 10:58

Poland, running right into your face!

As UK based eagle eyed forum members will probably already have noticed there are a couple of Polish eligible brothers currently tearing up the turf with championship side Bristol - Auguy and Lucas Slowik. Lucas was in the England U20 squad i think but Auguy has been banging in tries left right and centre from fullback. He got quite a glowing write up last week in both telegraph and ruby paper but i saw him take apart a London Scottish team which had been doing pretty darn well this season. He's now played and 3 scored 5 tries. The quality in the championship is a bit patchy but these games have been against some of the better teams, i reckon we (Scottish) are looking at a play off place and Pirates and Leeds are no slouches either.
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Postby beber » Sat, 27 Sep 2014, 12:01

Geordiefalcon wrote:They should just start by getting Mariusz Pudzianowski in at TH... :-)

The polish do like their strong man events...and rugby might intrigue a few of them if they get introduced to it.


Pudzianowski is a mixed martial artist now, but he played rugby in Poland and Wales if I remember well
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Postby dropkick » Mon, 12 Dec 2016, 14:42

The Poles are holding trials in Exeter next week.



"We often receive emails from likely candidates registering their interest in representing the national team and so we would like to take the opportunity to utilise players exposed to a higher standard of rugby."
Vice-president Krzysztof Liedel added: "The trials in Exeter will be the first of its kind, but we plan to organise other events next year in Ireland, Scotland, Wales and again in England. Polish rugby is growing - our juniors take part in all European competitions.

Read more at http://www.exeterexpressandecho.co.uk/f ... 6v8dtTe.99

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Postby Figaro » Tue, 13 Dec 2016, 08:33

Chris Czekaj, who played for Wales a few times in the late 2000s, was eligible for Poland via his (grand)parents I believe. There's also a Prop on the Blues' books called Corey Domachowski, though beyond the name I've no idea who he would or wouldn't be eligible for (and I think he's already capped for Wales U20, which would rule him out as we have no A team). There are probably a smattering of players in the Welsh premiership and English Championship/below who would be eligible - whether or not they'd be an improvement on the current squad of course is a different matter, and they might not want to jeopardize a potential place in a Pro12 or English Prem side by becoming a foreign cap.

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Postby RugInt » Fri, 24 Feb 2017, 11:22

I have on my list of 2017 test fixtures a friendly between Poland and Czech Republic set for 6 March. An updates please?

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Postby ihateblazers » Sat, 08 Apr 2017, 06:09

Theres a Polish born player in rugby league called mikolaj oledzki in the Leeds Rhinos system, 18 years old. Interesting story being born in Poland and then moving to Leeds in his early teens and picking up rugby league there. Seems like quite an athlete too, big and strong.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-lea ... n-10108547

Top 14 clubs take note and then he can play for Poland in union :D

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Postby DoncasterKSrugby » Sun, 09 Apr 2017, 16:25

I live in Doncaster which has a large Polish population, I have many Polish friends that I have introduced to rugby as spectators as most are too old to play, ALL of them have loved it and whished that they had been given the opportunity to play.

interestingly they all commented that it is a naturally fitting sport for Polish to play and they believe that with exposure in Poland it would grow and grow

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Postby Vova12 » Wed, 06 Sep 2017, 19:20

By the way two players of the Moscow "Slava" Denis Antonov and Andrei Bykanov (participants of the World Cup 2011) will play for the team in Europe against Poland on 9 September.

Match dedicated to the anniversary of the Polish Rugby.

Try 37 years old Bykanov against VVA this Monday.

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Postby amz » Mon, 11 Sep 2017, 14:01

Any idea where we can watch the anniversary match? I couldn't find much online

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Postby thx » Mon, 11 Sep 2017, 18:55

There is short, but I don't know that is working abroad:

http://www.polsatsport.pl/wiadomosc/201 ... ja-europy/

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Postby amz » Mon, 11 Sep 2017, 19:53

Thanks a lot, highlights are fine!

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Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 30 Jan 2018, 08:06

New national team coach Duiane Lindsay.

Apparently he already started in winter and now fulfils a double role as coach of German Bundesliga club Germania List (Hanover) and the Polish national team.
http://www.totalrugby.de/content/view/9280/41/

He will step down from his role in Hanover after this season.
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Postby Figaro » Tue, 30 Jan 2018, 11:59

[quote="Adamstown 7s"]I had a friend who told me that Welsh language Television i Llanelli in South Wales has Polish subtitles before English. Don't know how true this is but I chose to believe it.[quote]

I have never in my life seen a Polish subtitle on S4C (the only Welsh TV channel), nor any other UK television channel. They have English subtitles (and even English audio for Rugby games) but you have to turn them on, they're not just there, so even if Polish was available (which it isn't) it couldn't be said to be "before" the English. Llanelli doesn't have its own TV either.

There are a lot of people in Wales of Polish descent though.

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Postby polter » Thu, 01 Feb 2018, 21:48

There were some interesting candidates who applied. These included the ex-Wasps, Leicester and England A player James Buckland, the former Polish and Czech coach Tomasz Putra and a colleague of the former coach Blikkes Grunewald from the University of Pretoria called Conrad Boshoff.

There was also a competition for the coach of the sevens team who compete in the Europe Grand Prix series. This was won by the former assistant coach Andrzej Kozak. The full lists can be found on the below link.

Coach Lindsay has been holding training sessions in Gdansk and Warsaw with the next game away against the Dutch in a months time. This will be particularly difficult given the long winter break the players face and makes you wonder how Poland would hope to compete in the next division up where all the games are in February and March.

One of the coaches plans is to use his contacts to place players with British and Irish clubs over the winter to have them match fit at the start of the second half of the season.

http://pzrugby.pl/news/aktualnosc/XV7Po ... sowej,3880

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Postby Canalina » Fri, 21 Jun 2019, 11:53

Sopot won the polish championship defeating Lodz in the final game.
Sopot is a town in the middle between Gdynia and Gdansk. This northern zone around the Gdansk Gulf seems the most rugby passionate in Poland (just judging by the number of clubs in the top category)


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Postby polter » Sun, 23 Jun 2019, 15:30

The domestic final has been contested by Sopot and Łódź for the past couple of years with Sopot coming out on top for the first time.

Łódź is more the money team in Poland bringing in South African, Ukrainian and Georgian players over the years and seem to have some strange relationship with the union where often players aren’t available for the national team.

Sopot are more like an Exeter type club developing players themselves, bringing in maybe one or two new faces each season and having a very strong family type culture.

The 2019 season was only few months long as Poland is going back to a September to May type season with a long winter break rather than a March to November version but maybe this is the beginning of a new era for Sopot who had dominated Polish rugby in the distant past.

Other teams that performed well were Pogon Siedlce who had also brought in some foreign players and Skra Warsaw who saw a few players come out of retirement to help them get to fourth.

Although the league is becoming more cosmopolitan a potential time bomb may be brewing with the number of Ukrainian and Georgian props that are now in the league. More relaxed visa requirements means its easier for teams to bring these players in. Ukrainians and Georgians are the two biggest foreign communities in Poland now. Many may become naturalised after three years but in the short term this could create real problems for national team selection but I’d say the standard of the league is richer for it.

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Postby dropkick » Sun, 23 Jun 2019, 16:05

There's a winger in connachts academy named Mark Balaski. I presume he's of a Polish background.
https://www.connachtrugby.ie/academy_pl ... k-balaski/

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Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 25 Jun 2019, 07:31

dropkick wrote:There's a winger in connachts academy named Mark Balaski. I presume he's of a Polish background.
https://www.connachtrugby.ie/academy_pl ... k-balaski/


I googled him and according to his facebook page, he was born in Canada.
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Re: Poland - looking ahead

Postby Raven » Tue, 25 Jun 2019, 07:42

RugbyLiebe wrote:I googled him and according to his facebook page, he was born in Canada.

Talk about stalking skills! :lol:

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Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 25 Jun 2019, 08:55

Raven wrote:
RugbyLiebe wrote:I googled him and according to his facebook page, he was born in Canada.

Talk about stalking skills! :lol:


8-)
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Postby STMKY » Wed, 26 Jun 2019, 12:51

Poland needs to create a franchise in the Trojmyasto, where to invite all the best Polish players and some strong foreigners. And a good foreign coaching staff. Then can will play in the new Pro League, which is created by Russia, Georgia, Romania and Germany.

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