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Poland - looking ahead

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Re: Poland - looking ahead

Postby vino_93 » Tue, 17 Sep 2019, 14:04

http://pzrugby.pl/news/aktualnosc/Noweb ... Rugby,5452

This article talks about major outsiders in Ekstraliga. Major outsiders players :
Siedlce: Patelesio Sili (TON, international)

Warsawsza : Vaha Halaifonua (TON), Violetti Kolo (TON, 7's international)

Gdansk : Irakli Tsivtsivadze (GEO)

Sochaczew : Sandro Jeli (GEO ? coming from NZ), Razhden Bagatur (GEO)

Sopot : Vian Riekert (RSA), Dwayne Burrows (NZ)

Krakow : four players from Venezuela !

They say about 30 georgians are playing in Poland (some 20 in Ekstraliga).
And various SA players ... look like there's some nice semi-pro setup there :) Games are broadcast live on Polish TV (Polsat Sport Fight) :

Schedule of September broadcasts on Polsat Sport Fight:
09/01/2019
RC Orkan Sochaczew v KS Budowlani Lublin, at 13.45
09/08/2019
MKS Ogniwo Sopot v Master Pharm Rugby Łódź, at 16.00
09/14/2019
MKS Pogoń Awenta Siedlce v MKS Ogniwo Sopot, at 15.00
09/29/2019
Master Pharm Rugby Łódź v MKS Pogoń Awenta Siedlce, hours. 16.00




Championships will be played at 9 this season, back on a summer-spring season.
The next year the championship will be played by 8.
Goal is to become fully pro in short term.

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Re: Poland - looking ahead

Postby Grzegorz B. » Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 18:51

Some news from the Polish Ekstraliga.

The autumn round ended a week ago. Unfortunately, just before the start one of the clubs withdrew - KS Budowlani Łódź (there were two clubs in the Ekstraliga with almost identical names - few months ago KS Budowlani Łódź forced the other, Budowlani SA Łódź, to change the name). But there is also good news. Compared to the previous season, the level has risen: although the medalists from the previous season are in the first three places, the games are more even, there are much less very high results, and there are some surprises. Rugby Łódź (former Budowlani SA Łódź, runner-up from the previous season) won all its games. Champion, Ogniwo Sopot, ranks 2nd with two defeats. The big surprise is fourth in the table Juvenia Kraków - although many young players play there (last year in five categories of youth games in Poland, Juvenia won four gold medals and one silver) few weeks ago they defeated the champions (Ogniwo Sopot). The level is certainly raised by reinforcements from around the world: in addition to mentioned in the post above, there are two Kenyans in Orkan Sochaczew (including Chisanga, who played Newcastle Falcons two years ago) and four players from Naka Bulls (South African Gold Cup) in Juvenia. The clubs are financing together the television broadcasts - there is shown one game from each weekend (although on a channel available only on cable television, of low popularity, but it is a great step forward). Some teams are also broadcasting games on YouTube or Facebook. There are some disagreements between the clubs and the Polish Rugby Union (e.g. according to clubs, PZR doesn't promote the league enough, the decision to reduce the league to 8 teams since next season is also questioned).

Mid-season table (after 8 games each):
Position / club - points (w-d-l)
1 MasterPharm Rugby Łódź - 37 pts (8-0-0)
2 Ogniwo Sopot - 30 pts (6-0-2)
3 Pogoń Awenta Siedlce - 30 pts (6-0-2)
4 Juvenia Kraków - 25 pts (5-0-3)
5 Skra Warszawa - 20 pts (4-0-4)
6 Lechia Gdańsk - 17 pts (3-0-5)
7 Orkan Sochaczew - 14 pts (3-0-5)
8 Budowlani Lublin - 5 pts (1-0-7)
9 Arka Gdynia - 1 pt (0-0-8)
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Re: Poland - looking ahead

Postby iul » Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 19:41

Grzegorz B. wrote:Some news from the Polish Ekstraliga.

The autumn round ended a week ago. Unfortunately, just before the start one of the clubs withdrew - KS Budowlani Łódź (there were two clubs in the Ekstraliga with almost identical names - few months ago KS Budowlani Łódź forced the other, Budowlani SA Łódź, to change the name). But there is also good news. Compared to the previous season, the level has risen: although the medalists from the previous season are in the first three places, the games are more even, there are much less very high results, and there are some surprises. Rugby Łódź (former Budowlani SA Łódź, runner-up from the previous season) won all its games. Champion, Ogniwo Sopot, ranks 2nd with two defeats. The big surprise is fourth in the table Juvenia Kraków - although many young players play there (last year in five categories of youth games in Poland, Juvenia won four gold medals and one silver) few weeks ago they defeated the champions (Ogniwo Sopot). The level is certainly raised by reinforcements from around the world: in addition to mentioned in the post above, there are two Kenyans in Orkan Sochaczew (including Chisanga, who played Newcastle Falcons two years ago) and four players from Naka Bulls (South African Gold Cup) in Juvenia. The clubs are financing together the television broadcasts - there is shown one game from each weekend (although on a channel available only on cable television, of low popularity, but it is a great step forward). Some teams are also broadcasting games on YouTube or Facebook. There are some disagreements between the clubs and the Polish Rugby Union (e.g. according to clubs, PZR doesn't promote the league enough, the decision to reduce the league to 8 teams since next season is also questioned).

Mid-season table (after 8 games each):
Position / club - points (w-d-l)
1 MasterPharm Rugby Łódź - 37 pts (8-0-0)
2 Ogniwo Sopot - 30 pts (6-0-2)
3 Pogoń Awenta Siedlce - 30 pts (6-0-2)
4 Juvenia Kraków - 25 pts (5-0-3)
5 Skra Warszawa - 20 pts (4-0-4)
6 Lechia Gdańsk - 17 pts (3-0-5)
7 Orkan Sochaczew - 14 pts (3-0-5)
8 Budowlani Lublin - 5 pts (1-0-7)
9 Arka Gdynia - 1 pt (0-0-8)

What kind of budgets do the clubs have and where do they get the money from?

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Re: Poland - looking ahead

Postby Grzegorz B. » Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 20:49

iul wrote:What kind of budgets do the clubs have and where do they get the money from?


Ekstraliga is unprofessional, only some players get a small salary (supposedly the highest is a few thousand PLN, when a minimum salary in Poland is PLN 2,250). The three best clubs have budgets reportedly of around PLN 1,000,000 (i.e. around EUR 230,000).

Only one club operates as a public limited company (Rugby Łódź) and its financial data are available - in 2018 it had revenues about PLN 1,580,000 (i.e. higher than estimated). Their revenue structure: 62.8% - subsidies (I assume mainly local government), 36.4% - sale of promotional services (sponsors), 0.8% - tickets. But this is a special case, this club doesn't train youth, doesn't own an infrastructure and all players have contracts (total salaries - PLN 950,000 - 6 employees, 40 player with contracts, plus temporarily over 10 players and some staff for matches). So this is probably not representative...
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