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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby snapper37 » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 14:37

thatrugbyguy wrote:Moral victory for the Lions. I was certain the AB's would walk in a 3-0 series win. Wasn't a fan of the referee in the last test though. He basically bent the rules in the last minute to avoid the series being decided by an accidental offside. I understand the anticlimactic feeling of a series being decided that way but the referee needed to do his job in that instance and award the penalty to NZ.



Reid was offside at the kick off after the Lions tied it. So NZ are lucky not to have another penalty awarded against them..... Shit happens

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby snapper37 » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 14:39

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote: Basically, he tried to find a way not to award the penalty.

... cause REF's mother-in-law probably had wagered 100 euros on a DRAW
and earned 2,500 as a result of the over-rule :lol:

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SORRY, AMZ

THE greenandgoldrugby.com WRITER either is A CHEAT or A LAGGARD

HE picks WHAT he WANTS from LAWBOOK = 11.6 ACCIDENTAL OFFSIDE

whilst IGNORING the VERY NEXT AND OBVIOUS = 11.7 OFFSIDE AFTER A KNOCK-ON

I've been advocating to DELETE that para 11.7 since the turn of century
BUT it stays INTACT even in my beloved LEAGUE | NRL

... cause TOO many BIG-BOYS build their tactics
on SQUEEZING crucial penalties thru this PLOY

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How about offside at kick offs? reid was offside at the restart following the tied penalty kick.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby sk 88 » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 19:18

Offside at the kickoff is a scrum isn't it?

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby Bogdan_DC » Tue, 11 Jul 2017, 06:59

1.Offside at the kickoff is a scrum
2. there is no correct angles to say Read was in front of the kicker or not
This guys view: http://rugbyreferee.net/2017/07/09/all- ... -changing/
"Was Kieran Read in front of the kicker at the restart?
Our view – we don’t think so. He certainly looked well ahead in real time. The TV footage cut from a narrow view to a wide view just after the ball had been struck. The first frame of the wider angle (left) shows Kieran Read (top of pic) and the ball (white blob in the A of the pitch marking) a second after it was kicked. If you mentally roll that back a frame or two, it would put Read behind or on the line (and the ball) as the ball was struck.

We don’t have a definitive answer, but the evidence suggests he wasn’t clearly and obviously in front of the ball.

Also noted that Jerome Garces was at the near side and took up a position on the half way line (bottom of the pic). It’s an unconventional position for an AR to be on at a restart kick (wold usually aim for the 10m line), so maybe he was watching for this specifically. We cant say for sure. "

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 13 Jul 2017, 14:21

An American Recap:
https://youtu.be/jdMU8J6L9Do

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby victorsra » Thu, 13 Jul 2017, 15:43

About the future Lions Tour, the exclusion of the possibility of a Americas (because there isn't enough good opposition as warm-ups) does not consider the fact that the tours will have 8 and not 10 matches anymore.

It could be:

Weekend 1: Canada, in Toronto
Midweek 1: USA, in New York
Weekend 2: Barbarians/World XV, in São Paulo
Midweek 2: South America XV, in Montevideo
Weekend 3: Argentina, in La Plata
Midweek 3: Argentina Provincial XV, in Tucumán
Weekend 4: Argentina, in Rosario
Weekend 5: Argentina, in Buenos Aires
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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby Horsehead » Thu, 13 Jul 2017, 16:02

victorsra wrote:About the future Lions Tour, the exclusion of the possibility of a Americas (because there isn't enough good opposition as warm-ups) does not consider the fact that the tours will have 8 and not 10 matches anymore.

It could be:

Weekend 1: Canada, in Toronto
Midweek 1: USA, in New York
Weekend 2: Barbarians/World XV, in São Paulo
Midweek 2: South America XV, in Montevideo
Weekend 3: Argentina, in La Plata
Midweek 3: Argentina Provincial XV, in Tucumán
Weekend 4: Argentina, in Rosario
Weekend 5: Argentina, in Buenos Aires


I'd love to see an Argentina tour but I really don't like playing scratch sides. I'd rather the best Argentinean provincial side, the Jaguares and Uruguay rather than Barbarians, South America XV and Argentina Provincial XV.

But i think this is a moot point, i think they have already said there will be no Pumas test series, just one off games against them to start the next two tours

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby victorsra » Thu, 13 Jul 2017, 18:07

Argentina XV is a proper team, they play at least 10 matches every year: Americas Rugby Championship, South American Championship and Nations Cup. It is a team formed by the best domestic rugby players.

I think there must be a South American XV, because it would be crucial for the commercial aspect of the tour to have Brazil and Chile involved somehow too.

I also like the possibility of a match against France in Paris. The Americas and the South African tours could indeed involve always a first match in Europe (France, Georgia, Italy...)

Weekend 1: France, in Paris
Midweek 1: Canada, in Toronto
Weekend 2: USA, in New York
Midweek 2: South America Barbarians, in São Paulo
Weekend 3: Argentina, in La Plata
Midweek 3: Argentina XV, in Tucumán
Weekend 4: Argentina, in Rosario
Weekend 5: Argentina, in Buenos Aires

It would be interesting that the Australian tours starts in Japan instead of in Argentina.

I know they ruled it out for now, I am just saying it could be different and anyway good if rugby directors weren't that conservative...
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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby sanitycheck » Thu, 13 Jul 2017, 21:53

TheStroBro wrote:An American Recap:
https://youtu.be/jdMU8J6L9Do


where in the US do you live ?
Formerly known as "Aus_in_Germany"

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 13 Jul 2017, 22:00

sanitycheck wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:An American Recap:
https://youtu.be/jdMU8J6L9Do


where in the US do you live ?


Arizona.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby Thomas » Fri, 14 Jul 2017, 18:17

victorsra wrote:Argentina XV is a proper team, they play at least 10 matches every year: Americas Rugby Championship, South American Championship and Nations Cup. It is a team formed by the best domestic rugby players.

I think there must be a South American XV, because it would be crucial for the commercial aspect of the tour to have Brazil and Chile involved somehow too.

I also like the possibility of a match against France in Paris. The Americas and the South African tours could indeed involve always a first match in Europe (France, Georgia, Italy...)

Weekend 1: France, in Paris
Midweek 1: Canada, in Toronto
Weekend 2: USA, in New York
Midweek 2: South America Barbarians, in São Paulo
Weekend 3: Argentina, in La Plata
Midweek 3: Argentina XV, in Tucumán
Weekend 4: Argentina, in Rosario
Weekend 5: Argentina, in Buenos Aires

It would be interesting that the Australian tours starts in Japan instead of in Argentina.

I know they ruled it out for now, I am just saying it could be different and anyway good if rugby directors weren't that conservative...


I have always found not having a Lions Tour in Argentina rather Ironic since there are precedents: 1910, 1927 and 1936 the last sanctioned by the OLD IRB.

I know they may a lot of noise out of the tie test in 2005 as if this was the "first one" but I thought at the time it was a good stepping stone in returning to South America.

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