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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby Bolaroid » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 12:37

Joe Schmidt or Eddie Jones should've coached the Lions.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby dropkick » Sun, 25 Jun 2017, 13:27

Bolaroid wrote:Joe Schmidt or Eddie Jones should've coached the Lions.



What makes you think Schmidt is better than Gatland?

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby NedRugby » Sun, 25 Jun 2017, 23:28

And for those of you pedants who are interested in things like the final score, it was 30-15 for NZ.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Sat, 01 Jul 2017, 10:39

All Blacks 21 - 24 Lions

Mighty Blacks are defeated at last but i guess they will take huge revenge next time.

Sonny Billy got red card early in 2nd half and Lions used their advantage.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby RugInt » Sat, 01 Jul 2017, 11:11

The red card and the reshuffling had two affects on the game. It rattled the AB's and inspired the Lions. Their second half play was v good and their defence line was up quick and hard. AB's were forced into making errors. Great game by Lions. SB Williams must have thought he was back in a rugby league match.

Even the best teams in world sport lose occasionally :roll:
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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby victorsra » Sat, 01 Jul 2017, 14:35

As Scotland is the T2 of the Lions, here: http://www.planetrugby.com/news/lack-of ... and-grant/
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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby victorsra » Sat, 08 Jul 2017, 09:28

Is 1-1-1- a series draw or the All Blacks win it by total points?
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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 08 Jul 2017, 09:37

It's a drawn series. Not sure what to make of that series for the lions. Won 5, Lost 3, Drawn 2.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby sammo » Sat, 08 Jul 2017, 10:41

thatrugbyguy wrote:It's a drawn series. Not sure what to make of that series for the lions. Won 5, Lost 3, Drawn 2.


Overall I'd say it's a successful tour. If you'd have told me it'd be a drawn series before the first test I wouldn't have believed it, and if you'd offered it to me I would certainly have taken it

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby victorsra » Sat, 08 Jul 2017, 10:52

well, it is Lions' second best series result ever against the All Blacks as it ended in a draw.
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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby Neptune » Sat, 08 Jul 2017, 15:08

If it was football, we could comfortably say the lions won on away goals. But, since it's rugby xvs,its a draw.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby eal22 » Sat, 08 Jul 2017, 16:31

Lions take the tour for pummeling the Maoris in the unofficial fourth test.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby Thomas » Sun, 09 Jul 2017, 07:59

victorsra wrote:well, it is Lions' second best series result ever against the All Blacks as it ended in a draw.


The Lions of Tours of 1971 was 25 matches with 4 tests.

This Tour was 10 matches hard to quantify against previous tours where there were more games.

Won 5, Lost 3, Drawn 2

In my opinion is comparable to the 1993 series which the Lions lost 2-1 I still rate that tour as I was in Australia watching it.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby NedRugby » Sun, 09 Jul 2017, 13:17

Judging from the glum faces on the Kiwis I am holidaying with I think the Lions fans will be counting it as a glorious drawn series.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 06:32

Moral victory for the Lions. I was certain the AB's would walk in a 3-0 series win. Wasn't a fan of the referee in the last test though. He basically bent the rules in the last minute to avoid the series being decided by an accidental offside. I understand the anticlimactic feeling of a series being decided that way but the referee needed to do his job in that instance and award the penalty to NZ.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 07:15

Code: Select all
LIONS in RWC ERA

YEAR    WHERE   P:   W-L*D     THREE-TEST SERIES

1989    AUS    12:  11-1       2-1   12:30 SYD   19:12 BRI   19:18 SYD
1993    NZL    13:   7-6       1-2   18:20 CHR   20:07 WEL   13:30 AUK
1997    RSA    13:  11-2       2-1   25:16 CAP   18:15 DUR   16:35 JOB

2001    AUS    10:   7-3       1-2   29:13 BRI   14:35 MLB   23:29 SYD
2005    NZL    11:   7-4       0-3   03:21 CHR   18:48 WEL   19:38 AUK
2009    RSA    10:   7-2*1     1-2   21:26 DUR   25:28 PRE   28:09 JOB

2013    AUS    10:   8-2       2-1   23:21 BRI   15:16 MLB   41:16 SYD
2017    NZL    10:   5-3*2     1*1   15:30 AUK   24:21 WEL   15:15 AUK
2021    RSA     8:   

AUS: BRI Brisbane, MLB Melbourne, SYD Sydney
NZL: AUK Auckland, CHR Christchurch, WEL Wellington
RSA: CAP Cape Town, DUR Durban, JOB Johannesburg, PRE Pretoria



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POITE's OBVIOUS ERROR after WARBERTON's APPEAL

Current LAWS clearly state it was a PENALTY

Unfortunately, MEDIA did NOT bother to look into the BOOK

http://laws.worldrugby.org/downloads/Wo ... 017_EN.pdf

p.79

11.7 OFFSIDE AFTER A KNOCK-ON

When a player knocks-on and an offside team-mate next plays the ball,
the offside player is liable to sanction
if playing the ball prevented an opponent from gaining an advantage.

Sanction: Penalty kick


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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby amz » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 07:19

It was a good call.

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/the-un ... -it-right/

I try to always avoid claiming that such-and-such ref or decision "cost them the match". Both French refs were quite bad - making poor calls both ways, have no idea about how the rucks should be contested and offside was confusing - they'd ping people for legitimate rucking, and then allow some very cynical play to go unpunished. Both the Lions and ABs will rue missed chances from that final match but a draw was a fair reflection overall.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby Sables4EVA » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 07:37

Watch the replay of that "offside". If you look at the advertising on the field you can see that the ball was caught behind where it was released. The perception is skewed because Williams is being driven back so by the time Owens has the ball he is in front of Williams. Also I have watched the incident over and over and I think Gatland has a point in saying that the Lions player was in the air when Read hit him and Read got a touch on the ball before it was caught so technically it should have been a knock on or penalty to the Lions.

I think the ref had it spot on and kudos to him for getting confirmation on a decision that had such an important bearing not only on the match but the whole series.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 08:19

The problem is if the incident happened 10 mins earlier it would been a penalty without doubt. In any other time during the match it's a penalty. He let emotions get the better of the decision making and fudged the rules to justify his decision. Basically, he tried to find a way not to award the penalty.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 09:46

thatrugbyguy wrote: Basically, he tried to find a way not to award the penalty.

... cause REF's mother-in-law probably had wagered 100 euros on a DRAW
and earned 2,500 as a result of the over-rule :lol:

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SORRY, AMZ

THE greenandgoldrugby.com WRITER either is A CHEAT or A LAGGARD

HE picks WHAT he WANTS from LAWBOOK = 11.6 ACCIDENTAL OFFSIDE

whilst IGNORING the VERY NEXT AND OBVIOUS = 11.7 OFFSIDE AFTER A KNOCK-ON

I've been advocating to DELETE that para 11.7 since the turn of century
BUT it stays INTACT even in my beloved LEAGUE | NRL

... cause TOO many BIG-BOYS build their tactics
on SQUEEZING crucial penalties thru this PLOY

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby amz » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 10:04


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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 10:07

YES, they claim there was not a KNOCK-ON

YES, I agree that The law needs changing

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BIG THANX for PROVIDING the SECOND LINK

WILL PRINT-OUT AND KEEP its HARD-copy
in addition to BEEN just ARCHIVED = as OTHER daily stuff

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby amz » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 10:40

You're welcome FLIDTA RISXVA, I would have posted it first but I found it later. It's an excellent read.

Still, I think the result was fair and all of us have to learn from the attitude Hansen, Gatland and both team players have it after the match :)

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby TheStroBro » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 12:48

I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm giving Fekitoa a red under 10.4.e during that situation instead.

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Re: British and Irish Lions Tour

Postby Bogdan_DC » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 13:01

IMO Poite screw it from the first place, when he was to quick to blow the whistle. From there everything goes wrong. He should let the NZ player play the advantage and after the play was over (either NZ score a try or not) review it with TMO. Like this he disadvantage NZ from the first place. Of course is easy to say that from the pub :).
And yes i think the draw was deserved and Lions worth continue their legacy.Great series!

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