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Japan qulifying for the 2023 WC-Good or Bad for Asian Rugby?

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Re: Japan qulifying for the 2023 WC-Good or Bad for Asian Ru

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 13 Mar 2018, 11:31

Raven wrote:Would the REC offer only one or two play offs with other continents for a sole "Repechage spot" like Asia has now? or will there be 1 direct qualification place too? Not to mention what would this cause to the REC itself, 2 worthless games in the tournament as if what happened with Georgia wasn´t enough this time around... How much of a set back would this mean to (most likely) Rumania + Russia who are the ones making professional club structures pushing to get in (actually are getting in) the Cup comps...

Interesting assumption. And all we have seen, the answer woudl be yes, Europe would most likely stay at the same number of qualifying spots. Most likely they will lose a spot though as repechage and Europe1 will be in the same group with Japan.
If Japan fails, they will get the one direct qualification spot back.
It is really time, that they set up a better system.
Most important thing: even it out with 24 teams at the RWC. Not only because of more teams, but to stop being qualifyied or not a thing of how many days you have between the most important games.

Than look at the qualifier. And there the automatic stops need to be reduced to one (whoever hosts the next world cup). This is for two reasons.
1) the region the world cup is in, can get an addtional spot
2) You can develop qualifying processes which stay the same for every RWC and must not be changed to avoid important markets or fan favourites not being at the RWC.

Back to the topic. Imho the world cup won't do a lot if not nothing for Asia outside of Japan. And the ones to blame are World Rugby by not giving an additional Asian nation a place.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Japan qulifying for the 2023 WC-Good or Bad for Asian Ru

Postby vino_93 » Tue, 13 Mar 2018, 13:01

WR view isn't about number of qualification places, but RWC spots.
Africa : 2
Asia : 1
Europe : 8
America : 3
Oceania : 5
Global : 1
With a few change due to specificities (f.e. Oceania had to qualified 3, so now it is 4,5 for this one).

Qualification system is changed to keep this. For WR the most important is RWC, not qualification. This repartition is the same since 1999 - first at 20.
No need to talk about failure / success who could potentially changed things - it will not. Only way to see move would be to increase to 24 (give one to all outside Asia).

So if Spain beats Japan, and Georgia still qualifies, I can't see why things would change.


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