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Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

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Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Figaro » Wed, 14 Jun 2017, 06:56

Wales team

Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues); Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Jamie Roberts (capt, Harlequins), Steffan Evans* (Scarlets); Sam Davies (Ospreys), Gareth Davies (Scarlets); Nicky Smith (Ospreys) Kristian Dacey (Cardiff Blues) Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs), Seb Davies* (Cardiff Blues), Cory Hill (Newport Gwent Dragons), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets,), Thomas Young* (Wasps), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues).

Replacements: Ryan Elias* (Scarlets), Wyn Jones*
(Scarlets), Dillon Lewis* (Cardiff Blues), Ellis Jenkins (Cardiff Blues), Ollie Griffiths* (Newport Gwent Dragons), Aled Davies* (Scarlets), Owen Williams* (Gloucester), Cory Allen (Ospreys).

A mix of experience and youth, as to be expected during a Lions tour. This is very much a Wales Minus Lions though, abd not an emerging Wales or anything like took to the field on the disastrous tour of Japan last time the Lions toured.Three uncapped players starting and another six on the bench. Should prove too much for Tonga, although a lot will depend on the usual factors of which players are released to Tonga and how much time they have together.

Curtain opener for NZ-Samoa in Auckland

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Figaro » Wed, 14 Jun 2017, 07:03

Tonga: Dave Halaifonua; Nafi Tuitavake, Siale Piutau (capt), Vili Tahitua, Cooper Vuna; Latiume Fosita, Tane Takulua; Latu Talakai, Paula Ngauamo, Ben Tameifuna, Leva Fifita, Steve Mafi, Dan Faleafa, Nili Latu, Valentino Mapapalangi.

Replacements: Suliasi Taufalele, Sila Puafisi, Phil Kite, Sione Tau, Mike Faleafa, Leon Fukofuka, Kali Hala, Kiti Taimani.

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Figaro » Fri, 16 Jun 2017, 08:59

Wales dominated the first half but missed many opportunities to score points, with four kicks at goal missed and two tries disallowed by TMO. Tonga didn't impress.

Second half was a shambles in the rain (surely the Welsh should be used to it?) and the scoreline frankly flattered the Welsh, but Tonga didn't really look like they were up to much either.

Final score 6-24 to Wales.

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Neptune » Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 12:50

Im impressed by the Tongans, at least they put up a fight unlike the Samoans who just opened the floodgates.

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Figaro » Mon, 19 Jun 2017, 07:24

We'll see how they do against Wales on Friday - they really will be playing a second stream now that Gatland has called up anything qualified to play for Wales to sit on the bench for midweek games against Super Rugby sides.

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Neptune » Mon, 19 Jun 2017, 14:23

Figaro wrote:We'll see how they do against Wales on Friday - they really will be playing a second stream now that Gatland has called up anything qualified to play for Wales to sit on the bench for midweek games against Super Rugby sides.


Hehehe, I think Gatland is just canvassing for the WRU to get more gold in their coffers :lol: :lol:

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Figaro » Fri, 23 Jun 2017, 08:04

Samoa ahead 17-14 into the final quarter. Conditions poor.

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Figaro » Fri, 23 Jun 2017, 08:32

Samoa 17-19 Wales full time.

After a disastrous opening 10 minutes in which they went 10-0 down, Wales were solid if unspectacular. Samoa looked the more threatening side but lost out on many opportunities to score due to poor kicks, indiscipline and this will feel like a missed opportunity to them.

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby amz » Fri, 23 Jun 2017, 09:02

Very close score but Wales is missing a lot of players. I expected Samoa to win this

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Figaro » Fri, 23 Jun 2017, 09:21

amz wrote:Very close score but Wales is missing a lot of players. I expected Samoa to win this


Apparently Jamie Roberts had 33 more cap than the rest of the starting XV put together (!).

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby amz » Fri, 23 Jun 2017, 09:22

Yeah but he's far of his prime...

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Figaro » Fri, 23 Jun 2017, 09:44

Yes. Only one player in the 23 started the last game of the 6N (Scott Williams) and only 4 others were involved at any point in the 6N (Nicky Smith, Scott Baldwin, Roberts, Sam Davies), of whom only Smith started any game, so unlike the side vs. Tonga this really was a 2nd-string team.

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby amz » Fri, 23 Jun 2017, 10:01

Absolutely and you see in the other side likes of Fonotia, Fotuaíli, Lee-Lo, Fa'osiliva, Pisi playing home. It could have been a nice result for them but it looks to me more like a missed chance and Welsh depth looks good considering 16 players are with Lions.

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Fri, 23 Jun 2017, 10:03

Well, visits to Samoa from the 6N teams have been extremely rare, this is just the 3rd time in 5 years by the looks of it (Italy 2014, Scotland 2012, and before that way back in 2003 Ireland and France went in 1999) so at least Wales put their cocks on the block. Time England paid the courtesy of a visit as it looks like they have never ventured there?

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby amz » Fri, 23 Jun 2017, 10:18

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:Well, visits to Samoa from the 6N teams have been extremely rare, this is just the 3rd time in 5 years by the looks of it (Italy 2014, Scotland 2012, and before that way back in 2003 Ireland and France went in 1999) so at least Wales put their cocks on the block. Time England paid the courtesy of a visit as it looks like they have never ventured there?


Eh, depends from where you look at it because, looking from here, Bucharest, where last 6N visit was in 2006. Besides, Samoa also played ABs twice in last years in Apia.

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Fri, 23 Jun 2017, 10:35

amz wrote:
Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:Well, visits to Samoa from the 6N teams have been extremely rare, this is just the 3rd time in 5 years by the looks of it (Italy 2014, Scotland 2012, and before that way back in 2003 Ireland and France went in 1999) so at least Wales put their cocks on the block. Time England paid the courtesy of a visit as it looks like they have never ventured there?


Eh, depends from where you look at it because, looking from here, Bucharest, where last 6N visit was in 2006. Besides, Samoa also played ABs twice in last years in Apia.

It's a fair point but an entirely separate one. Samoa have also had 4 wins against Tier 1 teams in the last 5 years and all but one of those away from home or neutral grounds. A bit more effort could be made by the 6N teams even though it is a long and unstraightforward trip ( yes they should send teams to Bucharest and Tbilisi too it goes without saying)

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Re: Wales v Tonga Friday 16 June '17

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Fri, 23 Jun 2017, 10:57

I agree Tier 1 should make these difficult journeys more often and that the Islanders should not have to so often play in neutral venues. Look how much the fans enjoyed the match.

On the other hand I think Tier 1 visits should be tied to rankings and sense World Rugby agree (as they say visits to Tblisi and Bucharest from 2019 will be due to rankings). So if Samoa continue to slide down the rankings (down to 15th now) then other countries should move ahead of them in terms of receiving Tier 1 visits.

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