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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Wed, 09 May 2018, 01:27

The 2018 Brazilian Rugby Championship, the new "Super 16" (unofficial name), will kick off on June 30th.

The groups were release. 4 groups of 4 clubs each, respecting the geography

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Grupo A: Jacareí (Jacareí, SP), São José (São José, SP), BH Rugby (Belo Horizonte, MG), Guanabara (Rio de Janeiro, RJ) - states: Eastern São Paulo (Vale do Paraíba region) + Minas Gerais + Rio de Janeiro

Grupo B: Pasteur (São Paulo, SP), Band Saracens (São Paulo, SP), Rio Branco (São Paulo, SP), Templários (São Bernardo, SP) = states: São Paulo

Grupo C: Curitiba (Curitiba, PR), Pé Vermelho (Londrina, PR), Poli (São Paulo, SP), SPAC (São Paulo, SP) = states: São Paulo + Paraná

Grupo D: Desterro (Florianópolis, SC), Farrapos (Bento Gonçalves, RS), Charrua (Porto Alegre, RS), San Diego (Porto Alegre, RS) = states: Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby qwerty » Wed, 09 May 2018, 01:39

A format like this would be good to expand rugby further north in the country. A common concern for the clubs from established states being the travelling costs against a team from, say, Salvador.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Wed, 09 May 2018, 02:02

Yep, travelling is the main Brazilian problem. The Brazilian Rugby Union pays the travels, but up to 800km it is by bus. I really want to know which countries have clubs regularly travelling 400, 600, 800 km by bus... maybe Argentina in the Nacional de Clubes...
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby qwerty » Wed, 09 May 2018, 03:51

Longest distance in the Uruguayan Championship is between Punta del Este and Paysandú (480km), but it's just one team in each city. Almost all teams are in Montevideo, which is about 360km from Paysandú.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby Working Class Rugger » Wed, 09 May 2018, 05:17

victorsra wrote:Yep, travelling is the main Brazilian problem. The Brazilian Rugby Union pays the travels, but up to 800km it is by bus. I really want to know which countries have clubs regularly travelling 400, 600, 800 km by bus... maybe Argentina in the Nacional de Clubes...


Are we talking about national competitions? Because in the NRC the longest distance travel is 4500km from Sydney to Perth. Both the Queensland teams are over 1000km north and Melbourne is about the same south. In fact, outside of Sydney the closest base in Canberra which is around 280km away.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby Silver Fox » Wed, 09 May 2018, 10:55

Aren't we lucky in the Netherlands.
On May 20th the final of the Ereklasse will be played between RC Hilversum and RC 't Gooi.
This final will be played in the National Rugby Stadium in Amsterdam.
Instead of having to visit each other and have a convenient travel distance of 11 km they now have to travel the incredible distances of 40 and 35 km respectively. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby amz » Wed, 09 May 2018, 11:21

Silver Fox wrote:Aren't we lucky in the Netherlands.
On May 20th the final of the Ereklasse will be played between RC Hilversum and RC 't Gooi.
This final will be played in the National Rugby Stadium in Amsterdam.
Instead of having to visit each other and have a convenient travel distance of 11 km they now have to travel the incredible distances of 40 and 35 km respectively. :lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :thumbup:

But with the wonderful train network you have that is not much bother tbh.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 09 May 2018, 11:34

victorsra wrote:Yep, travelling is the main Brazilian problem. The Brazilian Rugby Union pays the travels, but up to 800km it is by bus. I really want to know which countries have clubs regularly travelling 400, 600, 800 km by bus... maybe Argentina in the Nacional de Clubes...

Probably here. Especially in second tier league. You've got 3 teams from Galicia and 5 from Euskadi in the same pool (700-750 km). And train connections aren't good.
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Wed, 09 May 2018, 14:09

Are we talking about national competitions? Because in the NRC the longest distance travel is 4500km from Sydney to Perth. Both the Queensland teams are over 1000km north and Melbourne is about the same south. In fact, outside of Sydney the closest base in Canberra which is around 280km away.


No, I am talking about amateur clubs travelling by bus. Don't need to be in national competition, we have 400km+ distances inside state competitions too.

Probably here. Especially in second tier league. You've got 3 teams from Galicia and 5 from Euskadi in the same pool (700-750 km). And train connections aren't good.


Tough!

Brazil doesn't have inter-city trains for passengers, only for cargo.
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby Working Class Rugger » Wed, 09 May 2018, 23:07

victorsra wrote:
Are we talking about national competitions? Because in the NRC the longest distance travel is 4500km from Sydney to Perth. Both the Queensland teams are over 1000km north and Melbourne is about the same south. In fact, outside of Sydney the closest base in Canberra which is around 280km away.


No, I am talking about amateur clubs travelling by bus. Don't need to be in national competition, we have 400km+ distances inside state competitions too.

Probably here. Especially in second tier league. You've got 3 teams from Galicia and 5 from Euskadi in the same pool (700-750 km). And train connections aren't good.


Tough!

Brazil doesn't have inter-city trains for passengers, only for cargo.


In that case we have similar journey's for game in the country regions of both NSW and Queensland. And the further west you go in each the longer the distances get.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby NaBUru38 » Thu, 10 May 2018, 01:20

qwerty wrote:Longest distance in the Uruguayan Championship is between Punta del Este and Paysandú (480km), but it's just one team in each city. Almost all teams are in Montevideo, which is about 360km from Paysandú.

Anyone that takes an airplane from Montevideo to Paysandú is ridiculously rich.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:04

Brazil vs Colombia will be at the São Paulo Athletic Club (not a proper stadium... I believe they will put temporary stands there), and not at the Canindé stadium.

First test at the SPAC in 16 years... it was the home of the Brazilian National team from 1964 to 2002.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby qwerty » Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:10

The only game in Brazil that warranted a proper stadium was the one against Chile. Given how few people attended, it's ok.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:24

I like the idea
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