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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Wed, 09 May 2018, 01:27

The 2018 Brazilian Rugby Championship, the new "Super 16" (unofficial name), will kick off on June 30th.

The groups were release. 4 groups of 4 clubs each, respecting the geography

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Grupo A: Jacareí (Jacareí, SP), São José (São José, SP), BH Rugby (Belo Horizonte, MG), Guanabara (Rio de Janeiro, RJ) - states: Eastern São Paulo (Vale do Paraíba region) + Minas Gerais + Rio de Janeiro

Grupo B: Pasteur (São Paulo, SP), Band Saracens (São Paulo, SP), Rio Branco (São Paulo, SP), Templários (São Bernardo, SP) = states: São Paulo

Grupo C: Curitiba (Curitiba, PR), Pé Vermelho (Londrina, PR), Poli (São Paulo, SP), SPAC (São Paulo, SP) = states: São Paulo + Paraná

Grupo D: Desterro (Florianópolis, SC), Farrapos (Bento Gonçalves, RS), Charrua (Porto Alegre, RS), San Diego (Porto Alegre, RS) = states: Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby qwerty » Wed, 09 May 2018, 01:39

A format like this would be good to expand rugby further north in the country. A common concern for the clubs from established states being the travelling costs against a team from, say, Salvador.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Wed, 09 May 2018, 02:02

Yep, travelling is the main Brazilian problem. The Brazilian Rugby Union pays the travels, but up to 800km it is by bus. I really want to know which countries have clubs regularly travelling 400, 600, 800 km by bus... maybe Argentina in the Nacional de Clubes...
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby qwerty » Wed, 09 May 2018, 03:51

Longest distance in the Uruguayan Championship is between Punta del Este and Paysandú (480km), but it's just one team in each city. Almost all teams are in Montevideo, which is about 360km from Paysandú.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby Working Class Rugger » Wed, 09 May 2018, 05:17

victorsra wrote:Yep, travelling is the main Brazilian problem. The Brazilian Rugby Union pays the travels, but up to 800km it is by bus. I really want to know which countries have clubs regularly travelling 400, 600, 800 km by bus... maybe Argentina in the Nacional de Clubes...


Are we talking about national competitions? Because in the NRC the longest distance travel is 4500km from Sydney to Perth. Both the Queensland teams are over 1000km north and Melbourne is about the same south. In fact, outside of Sydney the closest base in Canberra which is around 280km away.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby Silver Fox » Wed, 09 May 2018, 10:55

Aren't we lucky in the Netherlands.
On May 20th the final of the Ereklasse will be played between RC Hilversum and RC 't Gooi.
This final will be played in the National Rugby Stadium in Amsterdam.
Instead of having to visit each other and have a convenient travel distance of 11 km they now have to travel the incredible distances of 40 and 35 km respectively. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby amz » Wed, 09 May 2018, 11:21

Silver Fox wrote:Aren't we lucky in the Netherlands.
On May 20th the final of the Ereklasse will be played between RC Hilversum and RC 't Gooi.
This final will be played in the National Rugby Stadium in Amsterdam.
Instead of having to visit each other and have a convenient travel distance of 11 km they now have to travel the incredible distances of 40 and 35 km respectively. :lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :thumbup:

But with the wonderful train network you have that is not much bother tbh.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 09 May 2018, 11:34

victorsra wrote:Yep, travelling is the main Brazilian problem. The Brazilian Rugby Union pays the travels, but up to 800km it is by bus. I really want to know which countries have clubs regularly travelling 400, 600, 800 km by bus... maybe Argentina in the Nacional de Clubes...

Probably here. Especially in second tier league. You've got 3 teams from Galicia and 5 from Euskadi in the same pool (700-750 km). And train connections aren't good.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Wed, 09 May 2018, 14:09

Are we talking about national competitions? Because in the NRC the longest distance travel is 4500km from Sydney to Perth. Both the Queensland teams are over 1000km north and Melbourne is about the same south. In fact, outside of Sydney the closest base in Canberra which is around 280km away.


No, I am talking about amateur clubs travelling by bus. Don't need to be in national competition, we have 400km+ distances inside state competitions too.

Probably here. Especially in second tier league. You've got 3 teams from Galicia and 5 from Euskadi in the same pool (700-750 km). And train connections aren't good.


Tough!

Brazil doesn't have inter-city trains for passengers, only for cargo.
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby Working Class Rugger » Wed, 09 May 2018, 23:07

victorsra wrote:
Are we talking about national competitions? Because in the NRC the longest distance travel is 4500km from Sydney to Perth. Both the Queensland teams are over 1000km north and Melbourne is about the same south. In fact, outside of Sydney the closest base in Canberra which is around 280km away.


No, I am talking about amateur clubs travelling by bus. Don't need to be in national competition, we have 400km+ distances inside state competitions too.

Probably here. Especially in second tier league. You've got 3 teams from Galicia and 5 from Euskadi in the same pool (700-750 km). And train connections aren't good.


Tough!

Brazil doesn't have inter-city trains for passengers, only for cargo.


In that case we have similar journey's for game in the country regions of both NSW and Queensland. And the further west you go in each the longer the distances get.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby NaBUru38 » Thu, 10 May 2018, 01:20

qwerty wrote:Longest distance in the Uruguayan Championship is between Punta del Este and Paysandú (480km), but it's just one team in each city. Almost all teams are in Montevideo, which is about 360km from Paysandú.

Anyone that takes an airplane from Montevideo to Paysandú is ridiculously rich.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:04

Brazil vs Colombia will be at the São Paulo Athletic Club (not a proper stadium... I believe they will put temporary stands there), and not at the Canindé stadium.

First test at the SPAC in 16 years... it was the home of the Brazilian National team from 1964 to 2002.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby qwerty » Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:10

The only game in Brazil that warranted a proper stadium was the one against Chile. Given how few people attended, it's ok.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:24

I like the idea
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Sun, 27 May 2018, 12:58

Georgia Emerging vs Brazil will not be played, at least this year.

Brazilian Union rejected the offer. Ithink they will get better opposition and that is a reason

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 12:01

Saturday, June 16th, is a big day in Brazilian rugby, with 4 state championships finals:

In São Paulo it is São José vs Poli;

In Rio de Janeiro, Guanabara vs Niterói;

In Minas Gerais, BH Rugby vs Uberlândia;

And in Rio Grande do Sul, Farrapos vs Charrua;

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The national championship is set to kickoff on June 30th.
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Sun, 17 Jun 2018, 21:05

São Paulo champions: Poli (2nd time in their history and 2nd consecutive time)

Rio de Janeiro champions: Niterói (first time since 2015, breaking a sequence of 2 Guanabara titles)

Minas Gerais champions: BH Rugby (9 times in a row)

Rio Grande do Sul champions: Farrapos (9 times in a row)

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The Brazilian Championship kick off was postponed to July, after the FIFA World Cup :lol:

Groups and fixtures of the 1st and 2nd divisions: http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/tabelas ... rasileiros

There was one change: Rio Branco gave up from top division and was replaced by Niterói.
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Mon, 18 Jun 2018, 12:37

Video of São José 23-25 Poli. Awesome match, I recommend : http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... o-sao-jose
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby JLJordaan » Thu, 21 Jun 2018, 10:09

Congratulations on getting the 2019 U20 Trophy Brazil. Hopefully you can host a successful event and maybe even qualify for the Championship the next year.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby welshdragon2000 » Thu, 21 Jun 2018, 10:36

What's the Brazil U20s like?

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Thu, 21 Jun 2018, 19:24

U19s club rugby in Brazil is not good. Few teams, few competitions. The U20 national team has good players and they have a very good high performance program, but this year they were beaten by Paraguay (25-23) and heavily by Chile (30-03) in a very disappointing South American U20 Championship.... but of that team is young and might be back for 2019 and achieve much better results. But we need to have more focus on our clubs...

Congratulations on getting the 2019 U20 Trophy Brazil. Hopefully you can host a successful event and maybe even qualify for the Championship the next year.


Big chances of seeing Namibia here, very good :thumbup:
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby Tobar » Thu, 21 Jun 2018, 21:05

Hopefully this helps stir some youth rugby. Overall though, I don't think the JWRT does a ton to grow the sport locally since it's not a huge deal and not many people travel for it. Hopefully it can convert some players and clubs can get involved to grow numbers. Anything at all helps though.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Thu, 21 Jun 2018, 22:46

Our current U20 generation is better than what the results suggest. With we finish in a top 4 it would be a good showcase inside Brazil. But it will be difficult...
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Thu, 19 Jul 2018, 16:42

Brazilian Super 16 (Brazilian Championship) and Taça Tupi (2nd division) will kickoff next Saturday, 21st. Full fixtures: http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/tabelas ... rasileiros

New format, regionalized and complex. In the Super 16, clubs can't move away from the regions they were alocated and this means a complex system of promotion/relegation. Also, CBRu made a ranking ti determine how many clubs will advcance to the quarter finals. You can use Google translator to understand: http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... o-super-16

Groups A and B have 2 spots in the QFs. Group C 1 spot. Group D 2 spots. And there will be a repechage between Group C runners up and Group D 3rd team for the last QFs spot. The Final is scheduled to October 27th.

Taça Tupi is easier: 8 clubes (many teams withdrewing, it was supposed to have 16 clubs) - 2 groups of 4, 2 teams advancing to the SFs from each group. The champions will be promoted and the other semifinalistas will have a chance to play Promotion/Reegation playoffs agasint Super 16 clubs.

Super 16
Group A: Jacareí (SP), São José (SP), Guanabara (RJ), BH Rugby (MG)
Group B: Band Saracens (SP), Pasteur (SP), Poli (SP), Niterói (RJ)*
Group C: Curitiba (PR), SPAC (SP), Pé Vermelho (PR), Templários (SP)
Group D: Desterro (SC), Farrapos (RS), Charrua (RS), San Diego (RS)

*Niterói's region belongs to Group A, but they will play this year in Group B replacing Rio Branco (that asked not to be promoted)... this means Niteroi (if they fail to qualify for the QFs) will need to face a Repechage against Group A's worst team to avoid relegation

Taça Tupi
Group A: Inconfidentes (MG), Uberlândia (MG), Rio Branco (SP), Tornados (SP)
Group B: Chapecó (SC), Joaca (SC), Serra Gaúcha (RS), Lobo Bravo (PR)

States: SP = São Paulo / RJ = Rio de Janeiro / MG = Minas Gerais / PR = Paraná / SC = Santa Catarina / RS = Rio Grande do Sul
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Thu, 19 Jul 2018, 20:53

Meanwhile, the regional competitions outside the CBRu member states (the 6 Southern states) are DEAD.

The Northeast League and the Cerrado League died.

The Pantanal League and the Northern (Amazon) League were reduced to 2 clubs each.

The only 15-a-side real competition now outsie Southern Brazil is the Bahia State Championship....

Sad situation.
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