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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Thu, 29 Jun 2017, 15:17

The Brazilian Super 8 (Brazilian Rugby Championship) starts this Saturday. Round 1 Matches:

Curitiba vs Jacarei
Desterro vs Poli
SPAC vs São José
Farrapos vs Pasteur
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Sun, 02 Jul 2017, 13:54

Super 8 - 1st round:
Desterro 39-35 Poli, in Florianópolis
Curitiba 17-23 Jacareí, in Curitiba
Farrapos 13-12 Pasteur, in Bento Gonçalves
SPAC 21-10 São José, in São Paulo

Taça Tupi (Brazilian 2nd division) - 1st leg - Qualy Round
Joaca 44-17 Brummers, in Florianópolis
Templários 24-08 Itaguaí, in São Paulo
São Carlos 13-19 Pé Vermelho, in São Carlos
Inconfidentes 18-32 Rio Rugby, in Ouro Preto
Chapecó 22-19 SC Rugby, in Chapecó


More results from Brazilian club rugby and the standings in: http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... -semana-70
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Sun, 09 Jul 2017, 19:47

Super 8 - 2nd round:
Poli 10-07 Curitiba, in São Paulo
Desterro 12-17 SPAC, in Florianópolis
São José 21-22 Pasteur, in São José dos Campos
Jacareí 35-30 Farrapos, in Jacareí

Taça Tupi (Brazilian 2nd division) - 2nd leg - Qualy Round
Brummers 20-21 Joaca, in Ivoti (Novo Hamburgo)
Itaguaí 20-40 Templários, in Seropédica (Rio de Janeiro)
Rio Rugby 39-11 Inconfidentes, in Seropédica (Rio de Janeiro)
Pé Vermelho 29-26 São Carlos, in Cambé (Londrina)
SC Rugby 12-27 Chapecó, in Caxias do Sul :shock:

Teams qualified to the groups phase:
Band Saracens (São Paulo, SP)
Rio Branco (São Paulo, SP)
Templários (São Bernardo do Campo, SP)
BH Rugby (Belo Horizonte, MG)
Niterói (Niterói, RJ)
Guanabara (Rio de Janeiro, RJ)
Rio Rugby (Rio de Janeiro, RJ)
Pé Vermelho (Londrina, PR)
Joaca (Florianópolis, SC)
Chapecó (Chapecó, SC)
San Diego (Porto Alegre, RS)
Charrua (Porto Alegre, RS)

Draw TBA soon

More results from Brazilian club rugby and the standings in: http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... -semana-71
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 21:02

Taça Tupi groups:

Grupo A: Band Saracens, Rio Branco, Templários and Pé Vermelho
Grupo B: Niterói, BH Rugby, Guanabara and Rio Rugby
Grupo C: San Diego, Charrua, Joaca and Chapecó

It kicks off on July 22nd.

The 8 best teams will be promoted to the national top division, as Super 8 will become Super 16 in 2018.
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby danindech » Sun, 16 Jul 2017, 17:53

Victor, have you heard anything on a XV women's national team? Is it even been discussed in CBRu?

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Mon, 17 Jul 2017, 00:52

Hey Indech, great to see you here in the forum!

I know Sudamérica Rugby want to kickoff Women's XVs, but there is nothing official about it. At the momment there isn't a single Women's XVs competition in Brazil. Last year we had the first official São Paulo Women's XVs Championship, the first official Women's XVs competition in Brazil, but we don't have the dates for the 2017 edition yet.

Super 8 - 3rd round
Pasteur 26-24 Curitiba
São José 25-25 Poli
Jacareí 42-25 Desterro
SPAC - Farrapos - postponed to July 29th

More results from Brazilian club rugby and the standings in: http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... -semana-79
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby danindech » Mon, 17 Jul 2017, 01:39

Not a word from the CBRu on the subject?

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Sun, 23 Jul 2017, 18:41

Not a word from the CBRu on the subject?

Nothing.


BTW, Super 8 and Taça Tupi's this weekend rounds were postponed. Reason: the Ministery of Sports hasn't signed yet the Brazilian Rugby Union's project to pay those tournaments' travel costs (the travel costs are payed by the Brazilian Rugby Union using Ministry approved projects that allow companies to put a % of their taxes money on sports). Without this subside those national competitions wouldn't be possible in their current formats as clubs don't have money to travel big distances.

Let's wait for the Ministry...
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Sat, 29 Jul 2017, 23:17

Super 8 - nations top division - 3rd round (match that was missing)
SPAC 22-28 Farrapos :!:

Taça Tupi - national 2nd division - 1st round
Templários 35-14 Rio Branco :shock:
Pé Vermelho 20-34 Band Saracens
Rio Rugby 10-21 BH Rugby - match at the Olympic training field (the Rio 2016 legacy for rugby)
Guanabara 30-33 Niterói - also at the Olympic training field
Joaca 14-12 San Diego :shock:
Chapecó 15-30 Charrua

Santa Catarina Championship (the last core state championship to finish the 2017 season among)
Desterro 62-10 BC Rugby - Desterro champions for the 11th time (in 11 seasons)

More results from Brazilian club rugby and the standings in http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... -semana-81


2017 Brazilian states champions
(just the CBRu-associated states)
São Paulo: Poli
Rio de Janeiro: Guanabara
Minas Gerais: BH Rugby
Paraná: Curitiba
Santa Catarina: Desterro
Rio Grande do Sul: Farrapos
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Sat, 05 Aug 2017, 22:01

Super 8 - 4th round
Curitiba 26-17 Farrapos
Desterro 52-16 São José
SPAC 27-26 Poli
Pasteur 21-15 Jacareí

More results from Brazilian club rugby and the standings in http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... -semana-82
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby danindech » Wed, 09 Aug 2017, 14:37

victorsra wrote:2017 Brazilian states champions[/b] (just the CBRu-associated states)
São Paulo: Poli
Rio de Janeiro: Guanabara
Minas Gerais: BH Rugby
Paraná: Curitiba
Santa Catarina: Desterro
Rio Grande do Sul: Farrapos


Why isn't Bahia associated? Why aren't the other states moving towards setting up their structure, like MS, MT, GO, AM?

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Wed, 09 Aug 2017, 18:23

CBRu has a long list of requirements to accept a new federation. The only one that has almost everything is Bahia.

They just don't have the number of level 2 referees, but they have an application to become the 7th associated. The others are far away. You can see these requirements in the statute:https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1219/8728/files/Estatuto_Registrado.pdf?11614917007487368548 Let's wait.

However, not all of the current 6 federation fulfill all the requirements. The current 6 are the founding federations of CBRu. We are still to see non-founding state being accepted. Which, of course, creates questions.

About others' works, Mato Grosso do Sul is struggling to have all clubs together focused on the federation they formed. Goiás, the so called Cerrado Federation (with Distrito Federal and Tocantins) is the best organized after Bahia, and they look to be the next after Bahia. Ceará and Mato Grosso are in the begining of their work. Amazonas doesn't have a proper federation, they have just Liga Norte, that is not the kind of organization CBRu accepts as member. While Piauí is just now focused on its own organization as they were leading the failed All-Nordeste federation. Pernambuco's attempt of a federation died. And that is it.
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 10 Aug 2017, 00:56

Victorsa,

How are the proposed academy set ups coming along and the corresponding competition that they'll play in?

Also, do you think that if finances were ever available that some kind of inter-provincial competition could be established akin to the Currie Cup in SA or NPC in NZ? From the list of federated regions above there appears to be a reasonable spine for such a competition.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Thu, 10 Aug 2017, 07:26

No news about it. CBRu said soon they will release more info. They started a couple of training inter-academy matches. I think a serious competition os something for next year.

There are a couple of problems:

- The academies are NOT related to the state federations, they are fully owned by Cbru
- State federations are far away from having structure to field their own teams. They are amateur and just São Paulo and Rio Grande do Sul have mature club competitions. The others struggle even to release calendar and organize decent club tournaments
- No culture or background in Brazil for state representative teams. São Paulo has 5 of the 8 best clubs in Brazil and they have big rivalries, while states like Paraná and Santa Catarina have one club much bigger than the rest...
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Wed, 16 Aug 2017, 15:44

Super 8 - 5th round
Poli 07-15 Pasteur
Farrapos 32-29 Desterro
São José 07-18 Curitiba
Jacareí 37-24 SPAC


Taça Tupi (national 2nd division) - 2nd round
Band Saracens 51-22 Rio Branco - one of São Paulo's traditional derbies, called "The Derby of the Ideas" :D
Pé Vermelho 42-26 Templários
Niterói 12-23 BH Rugby
Guanabara 22-25 Rio Rugby - Rio's derby
San Diego 22-15 Charrua - Porto Alegre's derby
Joaca 14-15 Chapecó

More results from Brazilian club rugby and the standings in http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... -semana-83
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Sun, 20 Aug 2017, 19:16

Super 8 - 6th round
Curitiba 16-15 Desterro
Poli 18-24 Jacareí
Pasteur 13-11 SPAC
Farrapos 43-20 São José

7th (last) round - August 26th
Desterro-Pasteur
Curitiba-SPAC
Jacareí-São José
Farrapos-Poli

All the 8 clubs advance to the quarterfinals...

Standings in: http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... -semana-84


Taça Tupi - 2nd division
Templários 03-82 Band Saracens
Pé Vermelho 44-22 Rio Branco (RIP old might Rio Branco... :? )
Joaca 07-25 Charrua
Chapecó 16-24 San Diego
Rio Rugby 00-06 Niterói
Guanabara-BH Rugby - postponed after BH's bus was attacked by robbers in the road... :shock:

Standings in: http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... -semana-84


Nordeste Super XV - Northeast Regional Championship - FINAL (only match)
Talleres (Recife) 20-00 Parnaíba (Parnaíba) - Talleres champions for the first time (also first title for Pernambuco state)

*Talleres is an Argentine name... the clube's founders were supporters of Talleres from Córdoba, an Argentine soccer club.... it was born after the collapse of the old Recife Rugby Clube.

Copa Brasil Central "Pequi Nations" - Center-West Regional Championship - FINAL - 1st leg
Rugby Sem Fronteiras (Brasília) 23-15 Cuiabá (Cuiabá)

"Pequi Nations" is the nickname of the tournament, because of pequi, a local fruit... (translation: souari nut) :lol:
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby danindech » Fri, 25 Aug 2017, 01:45

Victor, have you seen the new CBRu statute, regarding the filiation of state federation? What do you think about that? Do you think it is going to foster new interest for building a state federation in states other than SP, MG, RJ, RS, SC and PR?

I wonder why states like GO, MS and BA don't come into the fold?

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby danindech » Fri, 25 Aug 2017, 01:50

Another issue: Why can't Brasil field a XV national side in the Argentinian RUs Championship, just like Uruguay?

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Fri, 25 Aug 2017, 14:09

Victor, have you seen the new CBRu statute, regarding the filiation of state federation? What do you think about that? Do you think it is going to foster new interest for building a state federation in states other than SP, MG, RJ, RS, SC and PR?

I wonder why states like GO, MS and BA don't come into the fold?

Yes, I read. I think they ask too much for guys starting from almost zero far away from major rugby centers. The statute is the same since 2010 about new states and simply nobody was able to succeed since then.

They should have two types of fliations, just like World Rugby. We should have states that are full members and states that are associate members until they reach the whole criterea. I agree that those points they ask are important, but you can't leave half the country in this vacuum.

Another issue: Why can't Brasil field a XV national side in the Argentinian RUs Championship, just like Uruguay?

AFAIK Brazil was invited and declined. CBRu doesn't wanted to be a third division of Argentina.
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Sun, 27 Aug 2017, 17:45

Super 8 - 7th (last) round
Farrapos 50-05 Poli
Curitiba 26-16 SPAC
Destero 41-13 Pasteur
São José 35-21 Jacareí - São José is alive!

Final Standings:
1 - Jacareí - 25 points
2 - Farrapos - 25
3 - Pasteur - 22
4 - Curitiba - 21
5 - Desterro - 19
6 - SPAC - 14
7 - Poli - 11
8 - São José - 8

Quarter finals - Sept. 2nd
Jacareí-São José, in Jacareí
Farrapos-Poli, in Bento Gonçalves
Pasteur-SPAC, in São Paulo
Curitiba-Desterro, in Curitiba


Taça Tupi (national 2nd division) - 4th round
Band Saracens 59-17 Pé Vermelho - Band Saracens is already qualified and promoted to the 2018 top division
Rio Branco 29-29 Templários
Niterói 08-22 Guanabara
BH Rugby 46-14 Rio Rugby
San Diego 14-10 Joaca
Charrua 17-12 Chapecó

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby danindech » Wed, 30 Aug 2017, 15:05

victorsra wrote:
Victor, have you seen the new CBRu statute, regarding the filiation of state federation? What do you think about that? Do you think it is going to foster new interest for building a state federation in states other than SP, MG, RJ, RS, SC and PR?

I wonder why states like GO, MS and BA don't come into the fold?

Yes, I read. I think they ask too much for guys starting from almost zero far away from major rugby centers. The statute is the same since 2010 about new states and simply nobody was able to succeed since then.

They should have two types of fliations, just like World Rugby. We should have states that are full members and states that are associate members until they reach the whole criterea. I agree that those points they ask are important, but you can't leave half the country in this vacuum.

Another issue: Why can't Brasil field a XV national side in the Argentinian RUs Championship, just like Uruguay?

AFAIK Brazil was invited and declined. CBRu doesn't wanted to be a third division of Argentina.


Your idea is excellent!! Has it been discussed in CBRu?? Did you whisper in their ears something like that?

Regarding the Argentinian Championship: what is your take on that? Is it worthwhile to have a Brazil XV in a 3rd division? IMHO, it looks to me it would be an excellent opportunity of development. Even if Brazil would be placed in a 3rd level, what would be the problem? Win the championship and then go for 2nd division and up... I don't get it. Really...

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Wed, 30 Aug 2017, 20:22

Your idea is excellent!! Has it been discussed in CBRu?? Did you whisper in their ears something like that?

Yes, but I am not sure if it was really heard.

Regarding the Argentinian Championship: what is your take on that? Is it worthwhile to have a Brazil XV in a 3rd division? IMHO, it looks to me it would be an excellent opportunity of development. Even if Brazil would be placed in a 3rd level, what would be the problem? Win the championship and then go for 2nd division and up... I don't get it. Really...

I agree with you. Why they don't want? Don't know.
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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Sun, 03 Sep 2017, 18:23

Super 8 - Quarter finals:
Jacareí 24-17 São José - Vale do Paraíba derby
Farrapos 34-23 Poli
Pasteur 28-27 SPAC - victory try in the last minute :shock: - São Paulo derby
Curitiba 15-17 Desterro - victory with a last minute penalty kick :shock: - the 2016 champions are out!

Semifinals - September 16th
Jacareí-Desterro
Farrapos-Pasteur

Note: Farrapos and Jacareí have never been national champions. Pasteur's last national title was in 1994, while Desterro doesn't win the Brazilian Championship since 2005. It is great to have a new champion!

Taça Tupi - 2nd division - 5th round
Rio Branco 00-78 Band Saracens - São Paulo derby
BH Rugby 28-13 Niterói
Rio Rugby 07-68 Guanabara - Rio de Janeiro derby
Charrua 16-10 San Diego - Porto Alegre derby
Chapecó 19-10 Joaca
Templários-Pé Vermelho - postponed to September 9th

Charrua, BH Rugby and Band Saracens are already promoted to the 2018 new Super 16. Band Saracens is also already qualified to the semifinals. On September 9th the two postponed Taça Tupi matches (Templários-Pé Vermelho and BH-Guanabara) will be played and the final group phase's round will be on September 16th.

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby Working Class Rugger » Sun, 03 Sep 2017, 23:25

victorsra wrote:Super 8 - Quarter finals:
Jacareí 24-17 São José - Vale do Paraíba derby
Farrapos 34-23 Poli
Pasteur 28-27 SPAC - victory try in the last minute :shock: - São Paulo derby
Curitiba 15-17 Desterro - victory with a last minute penalty kick :shock: - the 2016 champions are out!

Semifinals - September 16th
Jacareí-Desterro
Farrapos-Pasteur

Note: Farrapos and Jacareí have never been national champions. Pasteur's last national title was in 1994, while Desterro doesn't win the Brazilian Championship since 2005. It is great to have a new champion!

Taça Tupi - 2nd division - 5th round
Rio Branco 00-78 Band Saracens - São Paulo derby
BH Rugby 28-13 Niterói
Rio Rugby 07-68 Guanabara - Rio de Janeiro derby
Charrua 16-10 San Diego - Porto Alegre derby
Chapecó 19-10 Joaca
Templários-Pé Vermelho - postponed to September 9th

Charrua, BH Rugby and Band Saracens are already promoted to the 2018 new Super 16. Band Saracens is also already qualified to the semifinals. On September 9th the two postponed Taça Tupi matches (Templários-Pé Vermelho and BH-Guanabara) will be played and the final group phase's round will be on September 16th.

More results and standing in: http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... -semana-86


Is that the new more regional based competition (Super 16)?

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Re: Rugby in Brazil

Postby victorsra » Mon, 04 Sep 2017, 03:51

Yes. It will have 4 regional groups. But probably São Paulo clubs will be split in more than one group:

It depends on the clubs promoted but it will be something like:
- Rio Grande do Sul/Santa Catarina
- São Paulo/Paraná
- São Paulo/Rio de Janeiro
- São Paulo/Minas Gerais
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