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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Sun, 09 Jul 2017, 22:27

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dwpeate wrote:Do we know what the deal is with the format of next year's qualifications for Africa? Wiki has been changed recently to say that next year's top flight will be four teams with Morocco to play the runner up? Seems a bit crap to me given that surely they just won promotion?


The Rugby Afrique site seems to confirm that Morocco will be promoted so it is likely that the format will remain as is. http://www.rugbyafrique.com/rugby-africa-silver-cup/

"The Rugby Africa Silver Cup is getting ready in Casablanca, Morocco. While the teams of Morocco and Cote d’ivoire have been in training camp in the Kingdom for some time already, the teams of Madagascar and Botswana have joined them yesterday.

The challenge is serious this year since the winner of the competition will be promoted to the Rugby Africa Gold Cup for the 2018 season and will stand a chance to qualify for the Rugby World Cup 2019 in Japan."


Then again, RA changes processes at will and without advance notice so I would not be surprised if they made this change and the unions are not aware about it. Right now, all teams in the Gold Cup are fighting to avoid finished in 6th place as they know that only number 6 is relegated while Morocco is celebrating their promotion.

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Neptune » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 08:46

With Rugby Afrique, your only safe if you top the Gold cup. Anything else can change anytime. :lol:

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby SANE17 » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 09:30

Neptune wrote:With Rugby Afrique, your only safe if you top the Gold cup. Anything else can change anytime. :lol:


I'm really eager to see next year's gold cup hosting rights. If we play in Windhoek one more time then I'll conclude it's a deliberately biased rugby afrique.

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Sables4EVA » Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 16:06

Neptune wrote:With Rugby Afrique, your only safe if you top the Gold cup. Anything else can change anytime. :lol:


I disagree, you are only safe if you are Namibia.

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Canalina » Tue, 11 Jul 2017, 05:11

I still can't understand why Kenya has just 7 points (and not 8). Maybe Africa Cup has a special points system with no bonuses in case of draw. Wrote to Rugby Afrique on facebook and twitter but no answers

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby dwpeate » Tue, 11 Jul 2017, 09:16

Unless they are using the French/super rugby bonus system of more than three more than the opponents?

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Canalina » Tue, 11 Jul 2017, 09:59

Rugby Afrique has a french inclination already in the name so it makes sense; you must be right.

They answered me on twitter: "a draw is 2 points, a victory with the bonus is 5 points"
Uhm, ok, it's not a so exhaustive explanation but ok

English wikipedia says Kenya has 8 pts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Rugby_Africa_season
French wikipedia says 7 pts
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupe_d%2 ... _a_XV_2017

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Neptune » Wed, 12 Jul 2017, 05:47

Canalina wrote:Rugby Afrique has a french inclination already in the name so it makes sense; you must be right.

They answered me on twitter: "a draw is 2 points, a victory with the bonus is 5 points"
Uhm, ok, it's not a so exhaustive explanation but ok

English wikipedia says Kenya has 8 pts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Rugby_Africa_season
French wikipedia says 7 pts
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupe_d%2 ... _a_XV_2017


To be honest, in all rugby competitions, a win is 4 points, win with bonus is five and draw with bonus is 3, because against Uganda, although we drew, we scored 4 tries, to make that a bonus draw. But anyway, Rugby Afrique has the final say. But, thanks for noting that Canalina.

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Neptune » Fri, 14 Jul 2017, 05:08

http://ragahouse.com/news/item/zimbabwe ... ce-namibia Zimbabwe head down to Windhoek, It's going to be a tough one this one.

Meanwhile, all media outlets saying Kenya has 8 Points, while Rugby Afrique says it's 7. Are rugby pundits and media outlets wrong or is rugby afrique confused?
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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Fri, 14 Jul 2017, 07:55

It's a slightly weakened Uganda team this weekend, as the coach planned to rest a few players

Source: http://www.monitor.co.ug/Sports/Rugby/O ... index.html

RUGBY CRANES - STARTING XV
Asuman Mugerwa, Alex Mubiru, Brian Odongo, Charles Uhuru, Mathias Ochwo, Oketayot, Brian Asaba, Musajja, Ofoywroth, Wokorach, Justin Kimono, Pius Ogena, Michael Wokorach, Lawrence Sebuliba, Odong
REPLACEMENTS
Tamale, Ssenteza, Adnan Mutebi, Mike Otto, Cox Muhigwa, Ivan Markmot, Magomu, Gerald Ssewankambo

Meanwhile Tunisia have been complaining about their accommodation: http://www.monitor.co.ug/Sports/Rugby/N ... index.html

Also

Tunisia lost 50-15 to Namilyango College in a trial game on Monday, doing nothing to erase perceptions of their inability to compete with Brian Odongo’s team but Seguya is warning against complacency.

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Fri, 14 Jul 2017, 22:35

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:
Tunisia lost 50-15 to Namilyango College in a trial game on Monday, doing nothing to erase perceptions of their inability to compete with Brian Odongo’s team but Seguya is warning against complacency.


That was nonsense. They had their training session on Monday at Namilyango College. They are one of the traditional rugby schools in Uganda. The players offered "opposition" for the Tunisians and it was all in good fun. There was no proper rugby game that went on. I have no idea how that nonsensical article came about.

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Neptune » Sat, 15 Jul 2017, 04:40

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:It's a slightly weakened Uganda team this weekend, as the coach planned to rest a few players

Source: http://www.monitor.co.ug/Sports/Rugby/O ... index.html

RUGBY CRANES - STARTING XV
Asuman Mugerwa, Alex Mubiru, Brian Odongo, Charles Uhuru, Mathias Ochwo, Oketayot, Brian Asaba, Musajja, Ofoywroth, Wokorach, Justin Kimono, Pius Ogena, Michael Wokorach, Lawrence Sebuliba, Odong
REPLACEMENTS
Tamale, Ssenteza, Adnan Mutebi, Mike Otto, Cox Muhigwa, Ivan Markmot, Magomu, Gerald Ssewankambo

Meanwhile Tunisia have been complaining about their accommodation: http://www.monitor.co.ug/Sports/Rugby/N ... index.html

Also

Tunisia lost 50-15 to Namilyango College in a trial game on Monday, doing nothing to erase perceptions of their inability to compete with Brian Odongo’s team but Seguya is warning against complacency.


Tunisians complain about everything. They can complain why the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. :lol:

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Sat, 15 Jul 2017, 11:31

Kenya - Senegal is on facebook live here https://www.facebook.com/kwesesports/vi ... 528867441/

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Sat, 15 Jul 2017, 13:05

Facebook livestream link here for Uganda - Tunisia https://www.facebook.com/kwesesports/vi ... 728867021/

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby amz » Sat, 15 Jul 2017, 13:34

Thank you for links!

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Sables4EVA » Sat, 15 Jul 2017, 15:06

Namibia Zimbabwe on Kwese ESPN on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/kwesesports/?h ... aPhkDnjTfo

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby ugrugbychiclet » Sat, 15 Jul 2017, 15:42

amz wrote:Thank you for links!


You're welcome!

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 15 Jul 2017, 16:21

Sables4EVA wrote:Namibia Zimbabwe on Kwese ESPN on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/kwesesports/?h ... aPhkDnjTfo


And Zimbabwe lead 17 - 26 in the second half...

Final score Uganda - Tunisia looks like 78 - 17

Disastrous sojourn in East Africa for the Tunisians

Kenya beat Senegal 45 - 25.

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 15 Jul 2017, 16:33

I jinxed Zimbabwe , Namibia now 31 - 26 ahead with abut 10 mins left.

That was the final score, seems Zimbabwe spoiled a good chance late in the game.
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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 15 Jul 2017, 16:38

What a shame. Zimbabwe knocked it on in the in-goal...

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Osmanperalta » Sat, 15 Jul 2017, 16:39

The ref really want namibia win the game

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby rey200 » Sat, 15 Jul 2017, 18:17

The game was played in Windhoek? If so, still a good result for Zimbabwe.

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Canalina » Sat, 15 Jul 2017, 21:18

It would be nice to have a general official standing somewhere. Today the namibians scored 5 tries and the zimbabweans 3, so if they use the french system Namibia should have not conquered the bonus

Supposed standing (matches still to be played)

Namibia 14 (2)
Kenya 12 (2)
Uganda 11 (2)
Zimbabwe 6 (3)
Senegal 1 (1)
Tunisia 0 (2)

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Sables4EVA » Sun, 16 Jul 2017, 06:58

rey200 wrote:The game was played in Windhoek? If so, still a good result for Zimbabwe.


Yes, on paper it is a good result, but if you watched the game the Namibians were gifted the win and they know it. Zimbabwe's lack of experience at dealing with high pressure situations resulted in at least One gift of a try to Namibia and possibly 2 others and the nervousness in front of the try line from Zimbabwe where a cool head would have resulted in at least one try (the knock on at the end of the game in the in goal area at the end of the game in point).

There have been changes in Zimbabwe rugby since the debacle of the 80-6 loss to Namibia last year have had some effect. (National league set up, Trust set up for Sables, more games in preparation and the foreign element being involved to name a few).

Things are looking good for WC qualification though the game against Kenya and the away fixture in Kampala will be key indicators of improvement.

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Re: 2017 Africa Gold Cup

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Sat, 22 Jul 2017, 08:50

Seems to be a little confusion with timings for todays matches. Details from the link below (which may also provide the live streams?)

https://www.facebook.com/Kwese.ESPN...M ... rt2AOpy4m8

Uganda game at 1430hrs EAT (GMT+3)
Zimbabwe game at 1630hrs EAT (GMT+3)

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