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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby Muzzy » Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 03:11

Fiji produced two great tries, but getting owned at scrum time. Wtf was Mckee thinking making these changes to the Fiji forward pack. Italy are KNOWN as a forward oriented team. They are KNOWN for having a strong scrum. So why in the hell would Mckee start a local player with only half a test under his belt to start against them?? Why leave Koto one of their strongest scrummagers out of the team??

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby GeoRugby » Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 04:30

What a finish for Fiji. Amazing staff. They won the game despite playing against referee as well.

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 04:37

GeoRugby wrote:What a finish for Fiji. Amazing staff. They won the game despite playing against referee as well.


Not surprised at all. Logical match. Deal with it, its Italy and everyone except Nigel Owens will do them a favor.

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby Muzzy » Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 05:33

Very exciting game, frustrating at times as a Fiji fan. 3 brilliant tries from Fiji and a few great break outs. Matawalu's kick at the end there nearly cost them the game. Glad Fiji won in the end, cause it would have been so gutting if they had lost at the last minute after being in the lead for almost the whole match. Nemani Nagusa made some big mistakes too, dropping the ball when unchallenged in a lineout 10 metres from the Italian try line and the late tackle with no arms, getting him yellow carded leading to Italy's try. Great finish to the game though with Volavola's drop goal, it was an amazing break out from their own line too, typical Fijian rugby.

This is going to be a tough tour with Scotland next and then the crucial games against Samoa and Tonga for the world cup spots. Fiji's scrum struggled for the most part but improved a lot late in the game, even getting a tight head. Hopefully Tuisova, Yato and Botia will be there for Fiji against Scotland next week.

GeoRugby wrote:What a finish for Fiji. Amazing staff. They won the game despite playing against referee as well.


What did you think the referee called that was unfair?

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby olivier » Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 11:28

Disappointing for Fiji to not trash this ridiculous team.

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 12:12

This Italian side is packed with talent in the backs, their players play together every week and the Italian union has spent a lot of money on coaching. Fiji deserve credit for the victory.

Depending on what Tier2 Italy play in November they will keep alive the dream of a perfect losing season. That should keep you happy :p

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 12:29

Bruce_ma_goose wrote:This Italian side is packed with talent in the backs

Please, name me 1 normal Italian Back 10-15 and 1 will name you few Fijian stars 10-15 also.

Fiji has better back line than most of the T1 nations. and far better one than Italy for sure.

Fiji is strongest T2 country and stronger than Italy if we consider Italy as T1.
Naming Esposito or Sarto next to Nadolo or Nagusa is not right.
Ones are normal European backs and others are Flying Fijian stars.

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 12:34

I was replying to a statement that Italy are a "ridiculous team". They comfortably have the resources and advantages to be the tenth ranked team in the world and for a team denied any of those advantages (like Fiji) a victory against them is something to be happy with surely?

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby Neptune » Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 13:28

Can someone please explain to me what Italy are doing in the Pro 12 and the 6N? They are really watering down the level of competitions in the nothern hemisphere.

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby Canalina » Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 13:52

Bruce_ma_goose wrote:Depending on what Tier2 Italy play in November they will keep alive the dream of a perfect losing season. That should keep you happy :p

If calculations are correct , italy won 1/23 matches this year: 0/7 with the main team, 0/2 with the emerging, 1/9 with the u20, 0/5 with the women
We rock! :P
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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby Muzzy » Sun, 18 Jun 2017, 00:09

olivier wrote:Disappointing for Fiji to not trash this ridiculous team.


Fiji made the game harder than it needed to be. They were up 19 - 9, turned down 2 kickable penalties and the yellow card from Nemani Nagusa leading to Italy's try which brought them back into the game. Still, to me a win is a win and I'm happy with that. Its going to be tough against Scotland but hopefully Fiji names a stronger side that can at least be competitive.

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby Muzzy » Fri, 23 Jun 2017, 03:12

Fiji team for Scotland:

15 Kini Murimurivalu, 14 Josua Tuisova, 13 Albert Vulivuli, 12 Jale Vatubua, 11 Patrick Osborne, 10 Ben Volavola, 9 Serupepeli Vularika, 8 Akapusi Qera (c), 7 Peceli Yato, 6 Dominiko Waqaniburotu, 5 Leone Nakarawa, 4 Tevita Cavubati, 3 Kalivati Tawake, 2 Sunia Koto, 1 Peni Ravai
Replacements: 16 Tuapati Talemaitoga, 17 Joeli Veitayaki, 18 Mosese Ducivaki, 19 Sikeli Nabou, 20 Naulia Dawai, 21 Henry Seniloli, 22 John Stewart, 23 Benito Masilevu

Okay team. Tuisova will be a plus, but Tim Nagusa is being rested. Botia gone awol, apparently he's got some family matters but he didn't even let the coach know. A shame since he's one of Fiji's best players. Surprisingly there's no Manasa Saulo or Campese Ma'afu. With Scotland looking to attack Fiji's forwards and scrums I would have thought they would be in the team. Also still no Talebula. Would have at least had him on the bench, wonder whats going on there. No Matawalu in the side either. At least Scotland will be without some of their best players as well so hopefully Fiji will put on a good performance

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby GeoRugby » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 04:08

Great game. Fiji is leading 27-17 with 11 min. to go.

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby GeoRugby » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 04:26

Fiji wins 27-22. Congrats to them. They had a great game.

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby tryman » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 04:40

Great game. Didn't think Fiji were going to hang on at the end but did, what a result. Hopefully they'll bring the same intensity to the samoa game next week.

Oh and not often we say it here.... A tier 2 side has just beaten a tier 1 side, feels great!

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby Muzzy » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 04:58

tryman wrote:Great game. Didn't think Fiji were going to hang on at the end but did, what a result. Hopefully they'll bring the same intensity to the samoa game next week.

Oh and not often we say it here.... A tier 2 side has just beaten a tier 1 side, feels great!


HAHA hell yeah.

Really didn't expect it, but I was hoping. Great win, was really on edge watching. There were a few moments we could have screwed it up, but we held on. Impressed with Tawake, a local prop holding his own against the Scots. Tuisova and Nakarawa are huge assets to any team and can change a whole game on their own. I don't think we could have won without their freakish abilities. I don't think even Mckee would have been expecting this. I remember reading that they were mostly targeting a win against Italy and the games against Samoa and Tonga. Hopefully we'll still have enough for the games against Samoa and Tonga. Osborne made a good case for himself as well. After his two games for Fiji last year I was pretty skeptical of him, but he played really well. Took that cross kick from Volavola perfectly to set up Yato's try. Losts of tough competition on the wing for Fiji now. Best players for me: Nakarawa, Yato, Tuisova, Osborne and Volavola.

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby Neptune » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 07:48

Looks like our African brothers in the South - Pacific came out to play. Good stuff Fiji. ;) Vinaka Fiji
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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 08:28

Only caught the second half but well done Fiji.

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby 4N » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 10:02

Fiji for Rugby Championship :D

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby amz » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 10:07

Congrats to Fiji, excellent win! In all fairness, probably they are the closest to T1 status. I personally rate them T1 rather than T2.

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby beardy reiver » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 10:34

Nicely done Fiji. Always tough to lose a test match but against such good hosts its hard to be that grumpy. Disappointed that the quality of play from Scotland fell off from last week. As ever hard running and some sublime passing were a joy to watch. Thought the Fijian scrum was a revelation. I'd expected us to really boss that but it was solid.

From a Scottish perspective.... Urgh restarts. Again.
Good luck with qualification. See you's all in Japan
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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 11:42

Agree with beardy reiver, that was a good forward pack from Scotland and Fiji dealt with them. Scotland massively inferior without Finn Russell but that is still an extremely impressive result from Fiji against a side that just knocked off Australia last week. As other say, great to see a Tier2 nation taking a Tier1 scalp. :)

Amazing debut from Tuisova. It was like watching Lomu mkII but with good hands! Full match below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsj8Kd69QyA

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby sk 88 » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 13:01

Was this really Tuisova's debut? Feels like he's been playing for Toulon for years

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby BigG » Sat, 24 Jun 2017, 14:33

Congrats to Fiji. Well done. They deserved the win.

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Re: Fiji Rugby

Postby Marcos » Sun, 25 Jun 2017, 09:35

Go Fiji!!! Go tier 2!!! Great Victory, the gap is closing. The goal isn't enter in Tier 1, the true goal is eliminate the tier system and open the tournaments (6 nations and rugby championship). The actual system is based in decide the level of the teams in a office. Only there is a site where it is possible decide the level of a team ... a field of rugby

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