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2017-18 Continental Shield

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby victorsra » Sun, 04 Feb 2018, 14:41

Yeah, and again, who pays?
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 21:25

I've read now that the first russian semifinal of the Continental Shield will be played in Krasnodar, 5000 km from the city of both the playing teams. I suppose that this is due to the climate. My wonder, maybe a banal wonder, is: wouldn't be wise to build a covered rugby field in Krasnoyarsk? It would be very expensive, I know, but if it permitted to the local teams (not just the rugby ones) to not forcedly rest for five months every year it could worth the effort. Krasnoyarsk is a big city, as far as I know; they could have the resources to do that. According to a quick search on wikipedia all their stadiums are not-covered. Year by year the cost of the work would be repaid by itself: for example the cost of this voyage in Krasnodar for sixty persons would have been avoided with a roofed stadium.
But, ok, I suspect I'm not the first to have this idea; if they haven't yet realized it they must have some good reason

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Mar 31 in Krasnodar
Apr 21 in Krasnoyarsk

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 21:31

could work with a heated pitch as well, you don't need a roof.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 22:06

I doubt a heated field would be enough. The problem must be the frozen air too. If it was just for the field, it would be illogic -I think- to choice very long trips in far, warmer cities instead than to build a not so expensive heating system

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 07:45

Everything is very simple. In Krasnoyarsk, there are 3 stadiums for rugby Central (the main arena of the city), Avangard (Enisei-STM) and Krasny Yar. Heated the field is only on the Central and the Avangard. But they are currently under reconstruction. And in the stadium of Krasny Yar there is no heating. The temperature at this time is usually about + 5C in the daytime. But after the Siberian winter the lawn will be in a bad condition. In the Siberian climate it is much more difficult to grow a lawn.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 08:38

Thank you. So Amz was right :thumbup:

A question, sorry if it was already debated in other threads: if a heating subsoil system is enough to play wintertime in Krasnoyarsk, why the russian top championship has a so restricted period of play (from may to october, if I have understood correctly)?

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 09:16

I shoveled few pitches of snow until now :))

The issue with roof in such areas is snow, sometimes you can get 1 meter snow and it's an issue for any roof, would cost too much to be safe with such quantities of snow plus you never know when snowing will stop, you can get 2 meters and who's gonna move it from the roof. With snow and heating you deal easy, just shovel the big chunk of snow until you reach the grass than you turn on the heating, you only need 4 celsius at soil level to have a fine pitch.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 11:07

Canalina wrote:Thank you. So Amz was right :thumbup:

A question, sorry if it was already debated in other threads: if a heating subsoil system is enough to play wintertime in Krasnoyarsk, why the russian top championship has a so restricted period of play (from may to october, if I have understood correctly)?

You are partly right. We can extend the time of our championship from the beginning of April to the end of October. Minus the week for European competition. But at the moment it's not necessary, because of the small number of clubs and matches in the Premier League.
When there are 10 clubs. 18 rounds + playoffs, the games in April and October will be 100%.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 11:10

As for indoor football arenas. In Krasnoyarsk, Kazan, St. Petersburg, Yoshkar-Ola, I see that there are children's rugby tournaments, and there are also rugby-7 women's clubs training there. But for the level of games in rugby-15 they are not suitable for many reasons.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby victorsra » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 14:52

What about that new covered stadium in Krasnoyarsk?
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 15:09

victorsra wrote:What about that new covered stadium in Krasnoyarsk?

There is already a football indoor arena for 3000 seats with artificial grass unacceptable for rugby. Nobody will build another indoor stadium for a couple of winter games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrhmIHEfI0U

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby victorsra » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 15:31

Why they haven't used the rugby-suitable articial grass? FIFA and World Rugby have now an agreement for artificial grass.
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 16:27

Because there is no universally artificial field for football and for rugby. This arena is FC Enisei. They did not think about rugby at all. Now they sometimes allow children's and women's rugby teams to train. But for Enisei-STM and Krasny Yar, this arena is not suitable even for training. Therefore, they train in Turkey and Georgia in winter.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby victorsra » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 18:59

Yes there is! Fifa and World Rugby have just made an agreement about universal artificial turf. It was in 2016 i believe.
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby victorsra » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 20:42

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Sun, 18 Feb 2018, 09:03

In any case, even if there is a relatively secure field for rugby, then this is the maximum level of training and amateur team games. In this indoor arena.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Mon, 19 Feb 2018, 15:55

Russia v Spain 11500 on Kuban Staduim
Russia v Belgium 6000 on Kuban Stadium

What say about RC Kuban in Continental Shield 2018-19?

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Mon, 19 Feb 2018, 20:27

I'd like a russian club coming from a city different from Krasnoyarsk. And I think no-one in the organizing committee would have something to oppose. In this moment of his history, the risk of the Continental Shield (I think) is to have too few teams, not too many.

Both the semifinals second legs will be in April 21; HRK published today on facebook a post about.
March 31
Russian derby in Krasnodar
Timisoara v Heidelberg

April 21
Russian derby in Krasnoyarsk
Heidelberg v Timisoara

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby myth » Tue, 20 Feb 2018, 08:45

Canalina wrote:Both the semifinals second legs will be in April 21; HRK published today on facebook a post about.
March 31
Russian derby in Krasnodar
Timisoara v Heidelberg

April 21
Russian derby in Krasnoyarsk
Heidelberg v Timisoara
Already confirmed by EPCR last week:
http://www.epcrugby.com/europeanrugbych ... shield.php

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Tue, 20 Feb 2018, 09:04

Good news for VVA. From the federal budget of Russia in 2018 a sum of 3.5 million euros was allocated for the construction of the VVA Stadium in the Moscow Region. The state of the stadium at the moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MsttY6Jfow
Completion of work in September 2018. Capacity is 8160 seats. Also Artemiev said about the revival of the VVA team. Obviously, VVA is another real contender for participation in the Continental Shield 2018-19!
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