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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Wed, 16 Aug 2017, 10:20

The first four seasons, the rules were the same. The Russians won by these rules. The rules have changed ... It looks like it looks, there is no conspiracy.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Horsehead » Wed, 16 Aug 2017, 13:26

Semi finals after the pools, good!

Making the challenge cup teams play against each other, bad.

It does seem a bit of a stitch up for the Russian clubs, they should be rewarded for their success, not penalized

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Bogdan_DC » Wed, 16 Aug 2017, 13:34

EPCR Panic :))).Let's protect Challenge Cup from the Russian danger!Soon there will be only Russian teams!

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Wed, 16 Aug 2017, 15:22

The true tragedy is we will not see the second leg of the Siberian derby world tour. Edinburgh, Bilbao, Hawaii. They could have played anywhere. Distance no object!

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 17 Aug 2017, 06:37

No furtrher comments from me :!:

MOST of you parsed the latest *rugby quiz* correctly - as I had expected

Myself went watching Handball U19 Worlds instead
http://handballgeo2017.com/

There everything seems 100% fair :!:
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 17 Aug 2017, 07:06

Horsehead wrote:Semi finals after the pools, good!

Making the challenge cup teams play against each other, bad.

It does seem a bit of a stitch up for the Russian clubs, they should be rewarded for their success, not penalized


Never seen something like this before in rugby. I mean it would be as bad as if an European team qualified directly for a World Cup and then Europe is "awarded" by getting one less qualifying place for the next World Cup. Nah, nobody is that bold. Fake news. :D
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby victorsra » Thu, 17 Aug 2017, 18:51

Maybe it would be better simply to have 1-match quarter finals and 1-match semifinals instead of home-and-away semfinals. 6 clubs from the Continental Shield group phase (2 groups of 5, to avoid intergroup matches) + the 2 Challenge Cup teams.

Both Challenge Cup teams playing the quarter finals at home against the Shield 3rds (as they deserve a rest from travels). But the winners of those matches play away the semifinals. So they will have to prove away they deserve to stay in the Challenge.

Ex of the playoffs

Quarters
Match 1 - Challenge Cup team (home) vs Group A 3rd (away)
Match 2 - Challenge Cup team (home) vs Group B 3rd (away)
Match 3 - Group A 1st (home) vs Group B 2nd (away)
Match 4 - Group B 1st (home) vs Group A 2nd (away)

Semis
Match 3 winner (home) vs Match 2 winner (away)
Match 4 winner (home) vs Match 1 winner (away)
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Sat, 02 Sep 2017, 17:57

No news about the calendar? I can't find anything on the net, and I've checked all the eight teams' websites

The Timisoara roster seems terrifying: we may count five south africans, one briton, four newzealanders, six tongans, three samoans and one fijian, plus some romanian national teams players
http://rugby-timisoara.ro/jucatori/ro/Jucatori.html

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby beber » Sat, 02 Sep 2017, 18:37

Canalina wrote:The Timisoara roster seems terrifying: we may count five south africans, one briton, four newzealanders, six tongans, three samoans and one fijian, plus some romanian national teams players
http://rugby-timisoara.ro/jucatori/ro/Jucatori.html


Not even updated!
Timisoara also signed
Ionel Badiu, prop, capped by Romania, ex-Carcassonne (ProD2)
Losilosi Doge Mesake, prop capped by Fiji
Will Helu, winger, capped by Tonga, ex-Wasps, Edinburgh
John Leiataua, australian centre
Luke Samoa, australian fullback, capped by Romania

Eddie Aholeilei left the team

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby suofficer » Wed, 06 Sep 2017, 12:50

still no fixture list on this on the official website as far as i can see. anyone know of anything else?

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Wed, 06 Sep 2017, 21:42

An italian newspaper says the "organizers confirmed that every team will play against the teams of the opposite pool".
Anyway I think that this could be just an other rumor, notwithstanding the use of the word "confirmation"

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Tue, 12 Sep 2017, 16:14

Today I've seen a schedule.
As story goes it has been done quite a long time ago,
albeit it is vetoed until ORGANIZERS publish it ... solemnly

The schedule is a bit un-balanced and favors ... guess WHOM

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Tue, 12 Sep 2017, 18:13

The union that is bankrolling it? :p

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Tue, 12 Sep 2017, 18:17

May you say us if the format is "Classic" or "pools-crossing " ? Or the solemn promise involves also this?
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Tue, 12 Sep 2017, 19:04

A previous report was that the Italians would somehow almost be guaranteed a two semi-final (quarter final) spots. Surely not! I await with interest.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 05:00

cross-pool
4 games: 2 home + 2 away
in Oct & Dec

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 06:47

Thank you

One month to the first round, the official communication should be near

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 08:19

Kuban already defeats Krasny Yar, but does not play in the Continental Shield. Nonsense.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Horsehead » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 08:27

STMKY wrote:Kuban already defeats Krasny Yar, but does not play in the Continental Shield. Nonsense.


I agree - ridiculous that Russia don't get a team playing in this. Come to that why can't Georgia or Romania have more than one when Italy get 4? If they want to stick with this ridiculous two home games and two away games format then they should just have 2 groups of 5

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Bogdan_DC » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 08:34

Actually they punish Russians for that final, now they must meet each other maximum in semifinal and no additional teams in Shield. Fair play at his best :)).

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 09:32

They're very ridiculous. A true, efficacious Continental Shield should have at least 64 teams, 12 of them Russia, six from Moldova and at least two from South America, to conquer the worldwide market. A round robin of 63 games, home and away, could be fine; one or two matches at each round should be played at Twickenham or Stade de France, to attract more interest. All the games on saturday's evening prime time, this is obvious. If only the EPCR organizers weren't so old, selfish people! :x
Fortunately the russian federation is organizing for this season a wonderful parallel european tournament with thirty-two teams, many italian clubs invited. It's a surprise, russian federation worked hard for this and will publish the official communicate in the next few hours

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 09:40

Canalina wrote:They're very ridiculous. A true, efficacious Continental Shield should have at least 64 teams, 12 of them Russia, six from Moldova and at least two from South America, to conquer the worldwide market. A round robin of 63 games, home and away, could be fine; one or two matches at each round should be played at Twickenham or Stade de France, to attract more interest. All the games on saturday's evening prime time, this is obvious. If only the EPCR organizers weren't so old, selfish people! :x
Fortunately the russian federation is organizing for this season a wonderful parallel european tournament with thirty-two teams, many italian clubs invited. It's a surprise, russian federation worked hard for this and will publish the official communicate in the next few hours


Brilliant.
But that two Russian teams qualifiy and won't be simply able to do so again (if they don't win the cup that is), is indeed another satire. Never seen in any other serious sport.
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 10:06

Never seen in any other serious sport


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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 11:07

The Italian broke through. I will not say who would have taken a place in the 6 Nations, if not for the collapse of the Soviet Union. And just count how many games Zebre and Treviso are conducting in PRO14 each year. And ask yourself why they are still kept in the Celtic League. The Continental Shield is a small fee for the Italians for their participation in the Celtic League, so do not cry. Do you understand logic? That's why Russia holds tournaments, where teams from Finland, Lithuania, Croatia, Azerbaijan come .... It's Russia's payment too. It is impossible to preserve sports, then there will be no development.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 13 Sep 2017, 11:10

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:
Never seen in any other serious sport


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:oops: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock%E2%8 ... 93scissors


I am delighted by your background info on rock-paper-scissors. But not delitghted enough to read through all of it :D

Until that:

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How to grow rugby worldwide?
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