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2017-18 Continental Shield

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Bogdan_DC » Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:31

To make things even funnier i don't know if Timisoara have the money to go in Europe this year. But let's wait and see, is getting more interesting every day. European Rugby organisations are starting to look like village rugby heaven.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 30 May 2018, 16:19

Further words from VRAC, this time quoting his president:
"I don't want to be a pessimist, but I see it dark. We're waiting. We've asked for information about what kind of competition we would be playing and if we would have any kind of support from FER or Rugby Europe, but I fear we're not going to have answers until August or September. Playing in Europe changes everything, because it affects to budget allocations and pushes us to have a larger squad".

BS translator: VRAC wil only play Continental Shield if FER bankrolls it.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Sick » Wed, 30 May 2018, 16:27

germanbullsfan wrote:As i mentoned in another Forum , this coup will not withstand any courttrial ! This will only cost money and a complete lost of time and resources and a loss of reputation of european club rugby!
In that case they fight with the wrong party ! Money will not be an argument for Mr.Wild to challenge that in any court europewide



Dude chill I doubt anything will happen.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 04 Jun 2018, 13:27

How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Silver Fox » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 10:56

Anyone noted that EPCR restyled their website?
Exposure of the Continental shield is now on par with the two main cup competitions.
Good stuff.
It seems the confidence is there that this competition's development is structural and worthy of sharing exposure with the champions cup and the challenge cup.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 11:06

SORRY, but BLOODY RUBBISH this whole new site and this TAB
https://www.epcrugby.com/continental-sh ... ol-tables/

Batumi (GEO) finished second in their pool and reach play-offs

Just compare with this >> http://site.rugby.ge/ka-GE/0/ RIGHT COLUMN

It shows how un-professional EPCR is and how they care for Shield

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Blurandski » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 11:14

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:SORRY, but BLOODY RUBBISH this whole new site and this TAB
https://www.epcrugby.com/continental-sh ... ol-tables/

Batumi (GEO) finished second in their pool and reach play-offs

Just compare with this >> http://site.rugby.ge/ka-GE/0/ RIGHT COLUMN

It shows how un-professional EPCR is and how they care for Shield


Christ, that's an overreaction. It's pretty clear that they just haven't sorted out the sorting after changing their website. The good news is that the Continental Shield is now no-longer hidden away in the corner, but is a key part of their website, perhaps this indicates that they may be expanding it?

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Silver Fox » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 11:16

Sorry FR, but I don't quite agree.
I am sure a lot of details and figures are not correct.
But hey, this website is the portal to these tournaments and an advertisement for the participating clubs.
In that respect it's is a marketing tool.

Over the years I have learnt that marketeers and salesmen seldom care for figures, details, or even the truth.
It's about exposure and 'selling' a product and that aspect is much better taken care of now.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 11:27

Good find, thank you. Finally the Shield is purposed with almost the same dignity of the two other cups
They are on the same line and with the same largeness in the bar on the home page. Surely an improvement

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 11:35

No particular meaning but linking the Continental Shield page on facebook this tag appears: "Continental Shield. Weekends for 2018/19 season. Round 1: 12/13/14 October. Round 2: 19/20/21 October. Round 3: 7/8/9 December. Round 4: 14/15/16 December. Round 5:…"

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 11:42

Dear Silver Fox

For me -- a professional TAB-maker with 49 years of experience --
publishing apriori FALSE tab as a place-maker is a MORTAL SIN

They could have just copies the CORRECT one from OLD site
but they did NOT -- cause they did not care about
Batumis, Padovas, Timisoaras and other small fishes

NOR they care about RUGBY and TRUTH

Sorry, if I do NOT share in your OPTIMISM | JOY --
LIFE taught me OTHERWISE

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 12:00

That ONE from my archives
fetched from EPCR old site


Pool A Pl W D L PF PA Diff TF TA TB LB Pts

Timisoara Saracens (Romania) 4 3 0 1 106 68 38 14 6 1 1 14
Heidelberger RK (Germany) 4 3 0 1 96 74 22 10 10 1 0 13
Femi-CZ Rugby Rovigo Delta (Italy) 4 2 0 2 91 86 5 11 12 2 1 11
Rugby Viadana (Italy) 4 1 0 3 66 128 -62 10 18 1 1 6

Pool B Pl W D L PF PA Diff TF TA TB LB Pts

Pataro Rugby Calvisano (Italy) 4 2 0 2 107 52 55 15 6 2 2 12
RC Batumi (Georgia) 4 2 0 2 107 95 12 13 13 2 2 12
Rugby Petrarca (Italy) 4 2 0 2 99 68 31 11 5 1 2 11
CDUL (Portugal) 4 1 0 3 43 144 -101 7 21 0 0 4



Spare a minute and compare with CURRENT RUBBISH -- how a RESPONSIBLE pro could have done THAT ?

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*PS* I have NOT checked anything else on the new site

And if marketeers do not care for correct scores | tabs | stats --
good on them and you, their admirers

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 12:35

Apparently they didn't fill in the tries scored, which lead to the absent BP. Mail them, they will probably tell the part-time-student filling this in, to do it properly.
I also hate it, but this things happens, when people are involved who don't like numbers and don't care enough.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 14:08

Canalina has bitter sweet experience in mailing them ...
sorry, on my genuine advice

The guy directly responsible for the Shield replied
that he did not KNOW what the GAME SHHET was
instead of attaching it to the answer

It seems EPCR has amassed the PROs from all around the Europe,
to administer the naivest game of all, RUGBY

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 10 Jun 2018, 10:06

Shock in Spain as SilverStorm El Salvador accepted to play next Continental Shield instead of champions VRAC Quesos Entrepinares:
https://www.revista22.es/2018/06/reunio ... al-shield/

Hats off to Chami.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Sick » Sun, 10 Jun 2018, 10:09

Armchair Fan wrote:Shock in Spain as SilverStorm El Salvador accepted to play next Continental Shield instead of champions VRAC Quesos Entrepinares:
https://www.revista22.es/2018/06/reunio ... al-shield/

Hats off to Chami.



Great news! Happy for you guys. Hope our teams meet in the next tourament!

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby grande » Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 00:08

I don't understand, did VRAC refuse?

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 08:07

Yes. Like last year. The surprising thing is that their main rivals accepted

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 10:11

Timisoara Saracens confirmed to EPCR they'll join next year Challenge Cup. Not the best way to do it. Sad time for HRK, I imagine the players and supporters are gutted and it's undeserved tbh, I don't agree with EPCR decision.

https://www.epcrugby.com/2018/06/11/poo ... lenge-cup/

I think we will see some important changes to Timisoara and a new management and coaching team quite soon.

Now I am curious who'll join Continental Shield from Romania.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby suofficer » Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 10:18

the mystery here will be portugal.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby JamesWales » Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 10:19

I cant stress enough that I think it's a real shame about HRK, and I think that EPCR needs to significantly ramp up involvement by clubs outside the six nations (from 2 to at least 4, ideally more in my opinion).

However, with all the controversy over the unprofessionalism of the SPain/Belgium game, player eligibility etc, I can see there point in setting in stone the principal of double-ownership.

Hopefully HRK can tweak this for next year, and go for it again, but it is a real shame.

We could have had a German team in the Challenge Cup, and Spain in the World Cup by now, but there we go. Ever so slowly, rugby opens to the world at a snails pace.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 10:21

suofficer wrote:the mystery here will be portugal.


In what way?

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 12:07

I hope a club from Bucharest will take the Timisoara spot. I've seen that one of them has hired Vlaicu and maybe they will be able to borrow some players from the other Bucharest clubs, like HRK did this year

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 12:11

Canalina wrote:I hope a club from Bucharest will take the Timisoara spot. I've seen that one of them has hired Vlaicu and maybe they will be able to borrow some players from the other Bucharest clubs, like HRK did this year


Probably will be CSM Bucuresti, they have the funding to go in European competition. Stiinta Baia Mare never showed intention to participate. I am not sure about Steaua, they're a surprising club and they were better than CSM this year despite a lesser budget and less experienced team.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby suofficer » Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 12:21

amz wrote:
suofficer wrote:the mystery here will be portugal.


In what way?



Belenenses won the league with no final played with both Agro and Direito relegated to the bottom league.

Unlikely that Belenenses have the budget or the squad , so if the competition is invite (affordable) only maybe those two sides have a look at it. Agro have lost one player to the Southern Kings already but would still give a much better account of themselves than CDUL last year. Direito also could have a solid go. But who will be eligible etc etc

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