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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby olivier » Sat, 20 Jan 2018, 21:44

Not really. The referee was really bad and gave a yellow card for every hight tackle or bad behavior. One of the card against the Germans is a complete farce.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Sat, 20 Jan 2018, 21:49

olivier wrote:Not really. The referee was really bad and gave a yellow card for every hight tackle or bad behavior. One of the card against the Germans is a complete farce.


https://www.worldrugby.org/news/213339

minimum sanction is yellow if reckless contact with head. penalty is only for accidental contact.

I've seen the game, that was a straight red.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 20 Jan 2018, 22:05

Some of the cards...

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To me the only difference in the last case the aggressed player hasn't got the ball in hands.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby RugbyLiebe » Sun, 21 Jan 2018, 07:20

Well done armchair. What did you use to create those gifs?
My 2 cents.
First yellow is a bit harsh.
Second yellow I have no idea what the Calvisano lifters are doing. A nightmare.
Third yellow is correct. HRK coming in from the side.
4th unlucky, but correct call.
5th red. I totally missed it in the live game. Vicious obstruction. Correct call.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 21 Jan 2018, 09:20

Take any video from YouTube and put "gif" right before: from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZuKW0kMYnM to https://www.gifyoutube.com/watch?v=gZuKW0kMYnM

Then I opened a paying account so there are no watermarks from Gifs.com in the gifs I upload to Twitter so to promote Liga Heineken best actions.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Sun, 21 Jan 2018, 09:57

Armchair Fan wrote:Take any video from YouTube and put "gif" right before: from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZuKW0kMYnM to https://www.gifyoutube.com/watch?v=gZuKW0kMYnM

Then I opened a paying account so there are no watermarks from Gifs.com in the gifs I upload to Twitter so to promote Liga Heineken best actions.

Thanks for this
I'm quite goofy but I will try to use it

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Bogdan_DC » Mon, 22 Jan 2018, 07:41

Congrats Timisoara but their style of rugby could be described by only one word= Chaos. They will have a tough finale against HRK.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Tue, 23 Jan 2018, 09:09

A very simple rating system for the Continental Shield. In the group tournament, we take into account all points scored with bonuses. And in the playoff games, there is no point in considering bonuses, there is a difference in points for two games, so the team gets 5 points for a victory, 2.5 for a draw, and 0. The total is divided by the total number of club matches. For example, the Enisei in the group games and the playoffs of the Continental Shield scored 44 points in 9 games. 44/9 = 4.888.
Enisei-STM (rus) 4.888
Timisoara (rom) 4.14
Petrarca (ita) 3.75
Krasny Yar (rus) 3.57
Heidelberger (ger) 3.071
Fiamme Oro (ita) 3
Calvisano (ita) 2.75
Bucuresti Wolves (rom) 2.5
Rovigo (ita) 2.472
VRAC (spa) 2.25
Batumi (geo) 2
Viadana (ita) 1.833
Mogliano (ita) 1.666
Direito (por) 1.5
El Salvador (spa) 1
CDUL (por) 0.666
Tbilisi Caucasians (geo) 0
Baia Mare (rom) 0
Royal Kituro (bel) 0
Dendermondse (bel) 0
Thus, we have a rating of 20 teams, of which only 4 did not score points. We have 4 championships Italy, Romania, Russia and Georgia, which can delegate several clubs to the tournament. Therefore, we need a rating for these championships so that we can roughly evaluate new clubs from these countries. For example, from next year new clubs Kuban, Steaua and Aia will participate. Obviously, they are stronger than Belgian clubs, so in the first season they must have a rating of their championship, not zero. To avoid a draw at the favorites of the tournament.
Russian RPL 4.312
Romanian SuperLiga 3.5
Italian Excellence 2.53
Georgian Didi10 1.5
Having such a rating, we can apply the Olympic system for 16 clubs. Before each round draw a draw, divide the teams by rating on the seeded and not sown as it is done in football and other sports.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 23 Jan 2018, 16:01

STMKY wrote:A very simple rating system for the Continental Shield. In the group tournament, we take into account all points scored with bonuses. And in the playoff games, there is no point in considering bonuses, there is a difference in points for two games, so the team gets 5 points for a victory, 2.5 for a draw, and 0. The total is divided by the total number of club matches. For example, the Enisei in the group games and the playoffs of the Continental Shield scored 44 points in 9 games. 44/9 = 4.888.

Having such a rating, we can apply the Olympic system for 16 clubs. Before each round draw a draw, divide the teams by rating on the seeded and not sown as it is done in football and other sports.


Only not the Olympic system! :lol:
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Tue, 23 Jan 2018, 16:48

Vova12 wrote:
Only not the Olympic system! :lol:

Games to remove. Or what do they call it? That is, without group matches.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby sammo » Tue, 23 Jan 2018, 16:52

STMKY wrote:
Vova12 wrote:
Only not the Olympic system! :lol:

Games to remove. Or what do they call it? That is, without group matches.


I think you're referring to a knock out competition
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single- ... tournament

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 23 Jan 2018, 16:58

STMKY wrote:
Vova12 wrote:
Only not the Olympic system! :lol:

Games to remove. Or what do they call it? That is, without group matches.

This is a joke, bro))
"Olympic system" is a system where for no reason are disqualified our athletes ...
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Tue, 23 Jan 2018, 17:52

sammo wrote:
STMKY wrote:
Vova12 wrote:
Only not the Olympic system! :lol:

Games to remove. Or what do they call it? That is, without group matches.


I think you're referring to a knock out competition
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single- ... tournament

Yes, but in Russia we called them "Olimpic system".

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Tue, 23 Jan 2018, 17:55

Vova12 wrote:
STMKY wrote:
Vova12 wrote:
Only not the Olympic system! :lol:

Games to remove. Or what do they call it? That is, without group matches.

This is a joke, bro))
"Olympic system" is a system where for no reason are disqualified our athletes ...

Yes, but you know what attitude to these athletes we have, after their betrayal. 90% our peoples consider these assholes with white flag are traitors.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Tue, 23 Jan 2018, 21:10

You two are like Stan and Bran from Soviet Union

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Tue, 23 Jan 2018, 21:43

amz wrote:Stan and Bran

In Italy we call them Stanlio and Ollio :)

PS: a "philosophical" question: in your opinion, a scorers ranking of the Continental Shield should count the points scored by Enisei and Krasny Yar players during the Challenge Cup matches? I'd say no, but not completely sure about it

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 24 Jan 2018, 04:28

amz wrote:You two are like Stan and Bran from Soviet Union

We are millions)))
How do you like the success of "Temishoara" in the office?
Do not you think it is easier than on the field?
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 24 Jan 2018, 04:33

Canalina wrote:
amz wrote:Stan and Bran

In Italy we call them Stanlio and Ollio :)

PS: a "philosophical" question: in your opinion, a scorers ranking of the Continental Shield should count the points scored by Enisei and Krasny Yar players during the Challenge Cup matches? I'd say no, but not completely sure about it

Take them away at all!
Only in this case Italy will have at least some chances! :lol:
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Wed, 24 Jan 2018, 07:25

Canalina wrote:
amz wrote:Stan and Bran

In Italy we call them Stanlio and Ollio :)

PS: a "philosophical" question: in your opinion, a scorers ranking of the Continental Shield should count the points scored by Enisei and Krasny Yar players during the Challenge Cup matches? I'd say no, but not completely sure about it

These are different tournaments.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Wed, 24 Jan 2018, 08:17

Resume of the tournament so far (copied from http://site.rugby.ge/ka-GE/2017-18-SHIELD/)
Semifinal fixtures are indicative, the order of game (home&away) is not yet fixed
Fb unofficial page https://www.facebook.com/Continental-Sh ... 631533059/

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Wed, 24 Jan 2018, 19:25

Vova12 wrote:
amz wrote:You two are like Stan and Bran from Soviet Union

We are millions)))
How do you like the success of "Temishoara" in the office?
Do not you think it is easier than on the field?


In the office you say? Enisey and Kransy Yar have the easiest path to qualify compared with rest of the teams who competed in Continental Shield, two matches.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 24 Jan 2018, 19:30

amz wrote:
In the office you say? Enisey and Kransy Yar have the easiest path to qualify compared with rest of the teams who competed in Continental Shield, two matches.

They got the right to play Challenger Cap on the field (including against Temishora and Baia Mare).

Temishoara in the office. And i not sure that yours will win against the Germans ...
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Wed, 24 Jan 2018, 19:35

I just checked and they both finish last in their groups, Enisey with 1 point and Krasny Yar with 6...so they relegated I guess :) That right you mention was for previous Challenge Cup from which they are out now.

Timisoara does not have a coach and 2 months to solve this. I spoke for about 1 year here that they have issues with the coaches and if they won't solve it they'll be nowhere near Challenge Cup so everything is possible, HRK have a good coaching staff and a decent team.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 24 Jan 2018, 19:42

Yenisey and Krasny Yar have 5 victories over the teams from the best leagues of Europe.
This despite the fact that these teams play in the off-season and usually in a neutral or someone else"s field.

A "Temishoara" can win only in the office.
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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Wed, 24 Jan 2018, 19:44

Timisoara won a match vs one Russian team when had the opportunity so there isn't any gap.

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