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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Wed, 21 Feb 2018, 12:52

The REALITY is that
3-country, 6-team Black Sea League (6 paired rounds, 10 games per team)
talks (are already) | (will be soon) underway

The format has been charted early this month - have a guess, by whom

Chart was ordered by would-be participant Unions -
of the three eastern, orthodox countries!

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Wed, 21 Feb 2018, 12:54

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:The REALITY is that
3-country, 6-team Black Sea League (6 paired rounds, 10 games per team)
talks (are already) | (will be soon) underway

The format has been charted early this month - have a guess, by whom

Chart was ordered by would-be participant Unions -
of the three eastern, orthodox countries!

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That direct flight to Tbilisi which is supposed to get underway this year might come handy.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Wed, 21 Feb 2018, 12:57

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:The REALITY is that
3-country, 6-team Black Sea League (6 paired rounds, 10 games per team)
talks (are already) | (will be soon) underway

The format has been charted early this month - have a guess, by whom

Chart was ordered by would-be participant Unions -
of the three eastern, orthodox countries!

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If this league comes to life, we will get one more fully pro tournament.

2-2 clubs means Enisey and Krasny, Timisoara and Baia, Aia and Locomotive.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Wed, 21 Feb 2018, 13:05

RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:
2-2 clubs means Enisey and Krasny, Timisoara and Baia, Aia and Locomotive.

Enisei, KY and Timishoara will play in Challenge Cup\Cont Shield. They will not be able to play in two tournaments at the same time.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Wed, 21 Feb 2018, 13:11

STMKY wrote:
RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:
2-2 clubs means Enisey and Krasny, Timisoara and Baia, Aia and Locomotive.

Enisei, KY and Timishoara will play in Challenge Cup\Cont Shield. They will not be able to play in two tournaments at the same time.


Guy just said its 7nder negotiations and 10 games is not a joke. 10 games is 11-12 weekends, or 3 month.
I think this is much more serious tournament idea than whole continental shield.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Wed, 21 Feb 2018, 13:35

Theoretically 10 games are real. October (2), December (2), January (2), April-May (4). But then clubs should play who did not hit the Challenge Cup and the Continental Shield. What name will the tournament have?

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 22 Feb 2018, 07:06

All three countries will annoint (next better) teams
that are not playing in Challenge and Shield

That's why I wrote VVA and Kuban

The comp is built around SHORT tours with PAIRED games

Say, in ROUND 1+2 Aia and Loko visit VVA and Kuban,
ROM.1 playing ROM.2 once

In R 3+4 VVA and Kuban visit ROM.1 and ROM.2
Aia playing Loko once

In R 5+6 ROM.1 and ROM.2 visit Aia and Loko
VVA playing Kuban once

And so on, reversed second leg: R 7+8, 9+10, 11+12

In all, 6 Tours
10 games per team = 5 home + 5 away = 6 in its country + 4 abroad
Each team flies once to both foreign countries

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Thu, 22 Feb 2018, 07:14

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:The format has been charted early this month - have a guess, by whom


You? I don't know the stage of these talks but the costs for Romanian club would be prohibitive so I highly doubt there is any interest from Romanian clubs.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Thu, 22 Feb 2018, 07:46

amz wrote:
FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:The format has been charted early this month - have a guess, by whom


You? I don't know the stage of these talks but the costs for Romanian club would be prohibitive so I highly doubt there is any interest from Romanian clubs.


FRR must invest more if they want to remain as a powerhouse of Eastern Europe.

Rugby is not a cheap game any more. Level is rising from year to year.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby amz » Thu, 22 Feb 2018, 08:04

RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:
amz wrote:
FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:The format has been charted early this month - have a guess, by whom


You? I don't know the stage of these talks but the costs for Romanian club would be prohibitive so I highly doubt there is any interest from Romanian clubs.


FRR must invest more if they want to remain as a powerhouse of Eastern Europe.

Rugby is not a cheap game any more. Level is rising from year to year.


Despite the fact I said it many times you don't get it. FRR does not have the legal instruments to invest in clubs, they're not franchises. It doesn't work as in Georgia. They're different persons, with different stakeholders and money cannot simply be moved like a ball from hand to hand.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby myth » Thu, 22 Feb 2018, 08:27

STMKY wrote:What name will the tournament have?
The only legal possible name is 2017-18 Continental Shield as this is the name of this thread.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 22 Feb 2018, 08:33

myth, WE are discussing another tournament, 6-team *Black Sea League*

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Thu, 22 Feb 2018, 12:45

It is necessary to rename this topic in "Eurocups" to discuss Challenge Cup, Continental Shield and new tournament in one topic. I would suggest selling the name to the sponsor following the example of New Zealand. You can get little money or services. For example, "Aeroflot Cup" or "BankX Cup".

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 22 Feb 2018, 18:17

Fadura field in Getxo has been confirmed as host of Continental Shield final, as expected:
http://www.getxo.eus/es/servicios/comun ... =hootsuite

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Wed, 14 Mar 2018, 07:31

Maybe this was already known: Krasny Yar will play a warming up match in Portugal on march 24 against Armia Tbilisi, with two players from Slava Moscow short-contracted for the Continental Shield play-off.
I wonder why they have to go in Portugal instead of south of Russia: evidently it's more economic or there are more facilities or there's more warm

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby suofficer » Wed, 14 Mar 2018, 07:34

They are playing at Browns which is a high performance sports centre in the South. Always warm weather, world class faiclities

Its the location where CDUL beat the British Army a few seasons ago. Its where England go to train and a number of professional football and rugby teams go for wam weather training.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Wed, 14 Mar 2018, 08:25

Sorry BOTH, but Armia Tbilisi plays Kharebi in Rustavi on 25 March
http://site.rugby.ge/ka-GE/2017-18-Didi10/#16

In addition, Armia are bankrupt -- discarded by Ministry of Defense
and plays since Jan 2018 without getting salaries --
they have spent the entire 400 000 Lari in autumn 2017

Currently they stand 9th and fighting for survival
with a lot of guys thinking to jump the sinking ship
http://site.rugby.ge/en/home/

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Wed, 14 Mar 2018, 08:41

I've just deducted it from the Yar website. The logo on the "next fixture" section seems the one from georgian Armia

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby STMKY » Wed, 14 Mar 2018, 10:47

Probably they mean the British Army.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Duke of Currie » Sun, 18 Mar 2018, 15:19

Was thinking about this competition and the problems with the expansion of European rugby both at club and international level,
My opinion was that we should scrap this tournament and expand the Challenge Cup to have 32 teams as 4 groups of 8.
Would still have 18 teams from the Aviva , Pro14 & Top 14 but also have 14 direct entrants from the T2 leagues.

Rather than limit the entrants to 2 teams , have a split across multiple countries for teams to gain automatic entrants.
For example , 2 each from Georgia , Russia , Romania & Spain due to their rankings & REC position , there would be 6 other places up for grabs for the domestic champions of Portugal , Belgium , Netherlands , Germany , Netherlands & Czech Republic.
These numbers could be varied depending on club performance or countries positions within the REC.

Whilst there is resistance to open up the international game between 6N & REC , opening up the club game should allow other European Nations the chance to have their best domestic teams competing against established European sides.
If countries felt they were disadvantaged , then a select team from the domestic leagues could be selected similar to Romanian teams previously.
Not only will this automatically spread the European competition across a number of countries , allowing spread of tv and commercial opportunities and the development of the game. It also gives countries the opportunity to raise their domestic standards and if desired gauge the developing proferssional leagues within their own countries or for the potential for placing Professional franchises into the Pro set up.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Raven » Sun, 18 Mar 2018, 16:50

Sounds fun, but too much of a dream.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby luca tim » Tue, 27 Mar 2018, 23:15

It might seem impossible but there are other rugby-related things happening these days in Romania , besides the RWC qualification circus! One would be the Round 1 of the Play-off, Timisoara vs Heidelberg, this Saturday, 14 00 local time, 13 00 CET

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So far it is not known whether the game will be available online or not. As I've seen, there are other Timisoara fans on this forum, maybe we'll get together on the stand and watch some rugby.

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Re: 2017-18 Continental Shield

Postby Canalina » Wed, 28 Mar 2018, 06:08

Three georgian referees in Timisoara http://rugby-timisoara.ro/noutate/ro/20 ... e-Cup.html

Five Krasny Yar players will not be able to play in Krasnodar: "Not everyone will go to Krasnodar. For various reasons, five people fly to Krasnoyarsk. These are Yegor Zykov, Alexander Ilyin, Cyril Golosnitsky, Anton Ryabov and Evgeny Holstein". http://www.yar-rugby.ru/news/cbor-v-por ... snodar.htm

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