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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby SallesNeto_BR » Fri, 05 Oct 2018, 04:23

Aren't Romanian Superliga clubs worried about losing their PIs to WSR (or even MLR)?

Too much new pro sides being created, I'm not sure if there are enough players in the World for that. I guess it'll be necessary to focus on new player's-incubator nations like Kenia, Madagascar, Sri Lanka or even PNG (converting them from RL)
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby vino_93 » Fri, 05 Oct 2018, 06:00

I guess there are enough players in Europe. Plus you can hire some guys playing semi pros in France or England.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby thatrugbyguy » Fri, 05 Oct 2018, 11:46

There's plenty of Pacific Islands players who would gladly take up contracts in Romania. The more professional clubs there are globally the better it will be for Pacific rugby.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Sables4EVA » Sun, 07 Oct 2018, 06:59

I know in Zimbabwe there are many skilled rugby players who are unemployed so cannot afford to play that if given a professional contract would not let it go to waste. I am sure most of Africa could fit that description.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby thatrugbyguy » Thu, 11 Oct 2018, 02:33

Western Sydney team off the table because it's 'too soon'.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 508zc.html

The sport in this country is a joke run by self interested suits who don't know what they hell they are doing.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Tobar » Thu, 11 Oct 2018, 12:51

SMH is such an appropriate name for most of the news I read from that site

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Blurandski » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 00:25

https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/com ... as_global/

Apparently Hawaii is already committed alongside HK. Should be a great opportunity for rugby in the area (SE Asia) imo.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby 4N » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 00:55

They should really look at the Philippines too. Filipinos are the largest group in Hawaii as of about 10 years ago, surpassing Japanese.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby thatrugbyguy » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 02:03

Huh. So we have:

Western Force
Hawaii
Hong Kong
Singapore
Malaysia
Fiji

Future plans for NZ, Japan, Western Sydney, Korea, Sri Lanka, China, India and UAE. I'm not sure what to make of all of this. It seems the plans have been constantly changing from day one.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 03:00

thatrugbyguy wrote:Huh. So we have:

Western Force
Hawaii
Hong Kong
Singapore
Malaysia
Fiji

Future plans for NZ, Japan, Western Sydney, Korea, Sri Lanka, China, India and UAE. I'm not sure what to make of all of this. It seems the plans have been constantly changing from day one.


Outside of Hawaii all of those nations have been in the discussion process from day one. I also think the composition was always reliant on who’d be ready to go in 2019. Which appears to be at the very least these 6 teams.

Be interesting see how this fleshes out.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 04:53

thatrugbyguy wrote:Huh. So we have:

Western Force
Hawaii
Hong Kong
Singapore
Malaysia
Fiji

Future plans for NZ, Japan, Western Sydney, Korea, Sri Lanka, China, India and UAE. I'm not sure what to make of all of this. It seems the plans have been constantly changing from day one.


According to several people Panasonic are ready to go but are just waiting for the WR meeting on the 14th and the name change was at the request of WR who seem to be looking at using WSR for their World League concept.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby TheStroBro » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 05:21

I seriously do not understand the idea of a Hawai'i based team. If it were to feature US talent, sure. Getting visas for 35 foreigners doesn't make sense.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 05:24

TheStroBro wrote:I seriously do not understand the idea of a Hawai'i based team. If it were to feature US talent, sure. Getting visas for 35 foreigners doesn't make sense.


My understanding is the money backing this stems from a number of either present or former NFL players of PI heritage. Which is why they have been looking at a combined PI model.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Wed, 14 Nov 2018, 22:43

WR has conditionally approved GRR pending the participating Unions signing off. Which you'd imagine would seem pretty likely at this stage.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby MikeN » Wed, 14 Nov 2018, 23:47

thatrugbyguy wrote:Huh. So we have:

Western Force
Hawaii
Hong Kong
Singapore
Malaysia
Fiji

Future plans for NZ, Japan, Western Sydney, Korea, Sri Lanka, China, India and UAE. I'm not sure what to make of all of this. It seems the plans have been constantly changing from day one.


Why only Fiji out of the PI sides?

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 15 Nov 2018, 00:06

MikeN wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:Huh. So we have:

Western Force
Hawaii
Hong Kong
Singapore
Malaysia
Fiji

Future plans for NZ, Japan, Western Sydney, Korea, Sri Lanka, China, India and UAE. I'm not sure what to make of all of this. It seems the plans have been constantly changing from day one.


Why only Fiji out of the PI sides?


Well, the article I saw this morning also suggests that there will be a Samoan team as well. The Fiji stand point comes from there ability to sustain a team which is considerable greater than any other PI nation. But as per the article, GRR could have Fijian, Samoan and a heavily PI based Hawaiian teams which is a huge jump in local opportunities for PI talent.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Coloradoan » Thu, 15 Nov 2018, 02:10

TheStroBro wrote:I seriously do not understand the idea of a Hawai'i based team. If it were to feature US talent, sure. Getting visas for 35 foreigners doesn't make sense.


It's a more American concept than restricting eligibility based on nationality. Anyway, if the Hawaiian team featured US talent, that would cause MLR to suffer. Depth is already going to be challenged much more than last year with a season twice as long and 2 extra teams.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Thomas » Thu, 15 Nov 2018, 10:07

Here's the updated website as of this morning

https://www.rapidrugby.com/

6 new teams announced there as well. no more details.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 15 Nov 2018, 11:22

Thomas wrote:Here's the updated website as of this morning

https://www.rapidrugby.com/

6 new teams announced there as well. no more details.


The Japanese team will be announced in a week or so apparently and they are talking to an 8th team.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby victorsra » Fri, 16 Nov 2018, 21:06

Hong Kong team will be called South China Tigers: https://www.hkrugby.com/news/hkru-confi ... apid-rugby

What a bad name "Global Rapid Rugby". It doesn't even sound a league name...
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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Fri, 16 Nov 2018, 21:36

victorsra wrote:Hong Kong team will be called South China Tigers: https://www.hkrugby.com/news/hkru-confi ... apid-rugby

What a bad name "Global Rapid Rugby". It doesn't even sound a league name...


Yeah it's not great but we have WR to thank for the name change. As part of providing the go ahead they had to change the name as WR didn't like them using World Series in the name as apparently they want to use a similar name for their 12 team World League concept.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Superhans » Fri, 16 Nov 2018, 22:15

I think 'Global' will be replaced the second they get a competition sponsor. Rapid sounds weird but it's probably not that much weirder than 'Super.' I suspect it'll either grow on people and become normal (like Super is), or they'll change it to something else within a year or two.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 17 Nov 2018, 00:40

The name is terrible. They should have just gone back to Indo-Pacific Championship.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby Working Class Rugger » Sat, 17 Nov 2018, 02:31

Superhans wrote:I think 'Global' will be replaced the second they get a competition sponsor. Rapid sounds weird but it's probably not that much weirder than 'Super.' I suspect it'll either grow on people and become normal (like Super is), or they'll change it to something else within a year or two.


I don't disagree with you to be honest. But I tend to get the sense Forrest see's this as building an NFL like league in the region and GRR might be seen as more exciting. We also have to acknowledge that we're only a small part of the intended market he's looking to develop and it might appeal to the Asian market.

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Re: Western Force potentially looking for an Asian League

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 17 Nov 2018, 02:45

RugbyLiebe wrote:What really, really puzzles me: why didn't those two billionaires get behind the Western Force earlier?

Uh, Forrest was there the entire way of the fight against the ARU...obviously if he'd owned them it wouldn't have done shit to stop getting cut it seems as the ARU were hell bent on severing their link to the Western part of the country.

There were more people attending WSR games than probably the total attendance for the Oz Super Rugby teams this year.

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