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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby victorsra » Wed, 06 Sep 2017, 21:23

FT - Portugal 16 - 13 Fiji - Portugal in the final!!! Congratulations Portugal!!!!

HT - Japan 14-13 Namibia
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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby NedRugby » Wed, 06 Sep 2017, 23:01

And FT - Japan 33 - 13 Namibia

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby suofficer » Thu, 07 Sep 2017, 06:33

In my head Portugal are likely to do better against Japan , there is a good chance Portugal win this.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Horsehead » Thu, 07 Sep 2017, 07:24

suofficer wrote:In my head Portugal are likely to do better against Japan , there is a good chance Portugal win this.


I hope you are right but I'd be putting my money on Japan

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 07 Sep 2017, 07:52

After having seen Portugal win close games against Romania, Spain, Uruguay or Fiji, I'd bet my salary of a year on these guys. They've got something special.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby fullbackace » Fri, 08 Sep 2017, 06:49

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby sk 88 » Fri, 08 Sep 2017, 07:50

If Portugal could win we'd have 8 European teams + the 4 SANZAAR sides in the comp. I'd love that. For people that want to expand back to 16 I think the PI and Japan missing out will much more likely be the catalyst than any actual improvement in U-20 sides.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 08 Sep 2017, 08:11

sk 88 wrote:If Portugal could win we'd have 8 European teams + the 4 SANZAAR sides in the comp. I'd love that. For people that want to expand back to 16 I think the PI and Japan missing out will much more likely be the catalyst than any actual improvement in U-20 sides.


This.
On a sidenote: Is this the former Portuguese U18 team that lead to the Home Nations and Italy forming the new U18 Shame Nations?
If yes, this is a perfect case, that exposition to better teams at that youth age is indeed absolutely key to rugby development.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Bogdan_DC » Fri, 08 Sep 2017, 08:21

Portugal had one of the smallest teams in players size in Bucharest but their team effort is already a great achievement. Congrats&good luck!

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby datodato » Fri, 08 Sep 2017, 16:14

RugbyLiebe wrote:
sk 88 wrote:If Portugal could win we'd have 8 European teams + the 4 SANZAAR sides in the comp. I'd love that. For people that want to expand back to 16 I think the PI and Japan missing out will much more likely be the catalyst than any actual improvement in U-20 sides.


This.
On a sidenote: Is this the former Portuguese U18 team that lead to the Home Nations and Italy forming the new U18 Shame Nations?
If yes, this is a perfect case, that exposition to better teams at that youth age is indeed absolutely key to rugby development.


That was the Georgian U18, this years`s U20. They won against Ireland and Italy and came second in front of England, Wales and Scotland only losing to France in the Final in France.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 08 Sep 2017, 17:17

datodato, Georgia wasn't the only REC team that shone in that tournament. Indeed, Portugal tied with Scotland and theoretically avoided relegation in that 2015 U18 Rugby Europe Championship... So yes, this Portugal U20 is based on that U18 squad.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby fullbackace » Fri, 08 Sep 2017, 17:56

datodato wrote:
RugbyLiebe wrote:
sk 88 wrote:If Portugal could win we'd have 8 European teams + the 4 SANZAAR sides in the comp. I'd love that. For people that want to expand back to 16 I think the PI and Japan missing out will much more likely be the catalyst than any actual improvement in U-20 sides.


This.
On a sidenote: Is this the former Portuguese U18 team that lead to the Home Nations and Italy forming the new U18 Shame Nations?
If yes, this is a perfect case, that exposition to better teams at that youth age is indeed absolutely key to rugby development.


That was the Georgian U18, this years`s U20. They won against Ireland and Italy and came second in front of England, Wales and Scotland only losing to France in the Final in France.

They left because Portugal and Georgia both avoided relegation Hence one of the home nations would get relegated.
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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017 can only happen in rugby.

Postby Lobo » Fri, 08 Sep 2017, 18:26

fullbackace wrote:
datodato wrote:
RugbyLiebe wrote:
sk 88 wrote:If Portugal could win we'd have 8 European teams + the 4 SANZAAR sides in the comp. I'd love that. For people that want to expand back to 16 I think the PI and Japan missing out will much more likely be the catalyst than any actual improvement in U-20 sides.


This.
On a sidenote: Is this the former Portuguese U18 team that lead to the Home Nations and Italy forming the new U18 Shame Nations?
If yes, this is a perfect case, that exposition to better teams at that youth age is indeed absolutely key to rugby development.


That was the Georgian U18, this years`s U20. They won against Ireland and Italy and came second in front of England, Wales and Scotland only losing to France in the Final in France.

They left because Portugal and Georgia both avoided relegation Hence one of the home nations would get relegated.


Actually, not relegated. That side, Scotland, would have to play a qualifier tournament. But that was enough for the HN and Italy to boycott the U18 European Championship, breaking the existing written agreements. The kind of thing that can only happen in rugby (talking about serious sports that are played all over the world).

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby NaBUru38 » Fri, 08 Sep 2017, 21:30

sk 88 wrote:If Portugal could win we'd have 8 European teams + the 4 SANZAAR sides in the comp. I'd love that. For people that want to expand back to 16 I think the PI and Japan missing out will much more likely be the catalyst than any actual improvement in U-20 sides.


I disagree. Japan needs the U20 World Championship more than Portugal.
Portugal can ask for France and Italy to let their kids play.
Japan kids are thousands of kilometers away from adequate rivals.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 08 Sep 2017, 21:57

NaBUru38 wrote:
sk 88 wrote:If Portugal could win we'd have 8 European teams + the 4 SANZAAR sides in the comp. I'd love that. For people that want to expand back to 16 I think the PI and Japan missing out will much more likely be the catalyst than any actual improvement in U-20 sides.


I disagree. Japan needs the U20 World Championship more than Portugal.
Portugal can ask for France and Italy to let their kids play.
Japan kids are thousands of kilometers away from adequate rivals.


I think you misunderstood his point. He thinks that a win by Portugal will lead to expansion, because of your very valid points. If Portugal wins chances are that MORE t2 teams will play on that level.
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Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Coloradoan » Sat, 09 Sep 2017, 00:22

RugbyLiebe wrote:
sk 88 wrote:If Portugal could win we'd have 8 European teams + the 4 SANZAAR sides in the comp. I'd love that. For people that want to expand back to 16 I think the PI and Japan missing out will much more likely be the catalyst than any actual improvement in U-20 sides.


This.
On a sidenote: Is this the former Portuguese U18 team that lead to the Home Nations and Italy forming the new U18 Shame Nations?
If yes, this is a perfect case, that exposition to better teams at that youth age is indeed absolutely key to rugby development.


A perfect case would be if they didn't do well but improved after playing them. All this is evidence of is that this is indeed a good crop of players.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby sk 88 » Sat, 09 Sep 2017, 08:54

RugbyLiebe wrote:
NaBUru38 wrote:
sk 88 wrote:If Portugal could win we'd have 8 European teams + the 4 SANZAAR sides in the comp. I'd love that. For people that want to expand back to 16 I think the PI and Japan missing out will much more likely be the catalyst than any actual improvement in U-20 sides.


I disagree. Japan needs the U20 World Championship more than Portugal.
Portugal can ask for France and Italy to let their kids play.
Japan kids are thousands of kilometers away from adequate rivals.


I think you misunderstood his point. He thinks that a win by Portugal will lead to expansion, because of your very valid points. If Portugal wins chances are that MORE t2 teams will play on that level.


Sort of yes.

Personally I just want Portugal to win as I'm very euro-centric, but an added benefit to that would be that I think it would make expansion more likely too.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby victorsra » Sun, 10 Sep 2017, 17:32

7th place - Canada 38-00 Hong Kong
5th place - Chile 15-13 Fiji :shock: - HUGE result for Chilean rugby, congratulations!!!!
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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby victorsra » Sun, 10 Sep 2017, 18:41

3rd place - Uruguay 27-12 Namiba - FT
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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby NaBUru38 » Sun, 10 Sep 2017, 20:03

It's raining cats, dogs and cows here in Uruguay.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Lobo » Sun, 10 Sep 2017, 20:49

Are the remaining minutes going to be played?

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby floral » Sun, 10 Sep 2017, 20:54

Lobo wrote:Are the remaining minutes going to be played?



Japan won, we wont play the remaining minutes.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Lobo » Sun, 10 Sep 2017, 21:08

Don't know what to think.

This was the final of the Trophy and it was going to decide who was going to play next U20 RWC. Can't remember anything like this before.

I'll try to understand this better before making any comments.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 10 Sep 2017, 21:26

Shameful. A big salute to those who decided to reschedule the tournament to dates when daylight is scarce and weather visibly poor.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Lobo » Sun, 10 Sep 2017, 21:33

What I found (nothing new):

5.7 Other time regulations

(a)

In international matches, play always lasts eighty minutes plus lost time.

(b)

In non-international matches a Union may decide the length of a match.

(c)

If the Union does not decide, the teams agree on the length of a match. If they cannot agree, the referee decides.

(d)

The referee has the power to end the match at any time, if the referee believes that play should not continue because it would be dangerous.



But the decision wasn't from the referee. Who made that decision?

Anyway, congrats to Japan that was leading 14-3.

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