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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Lobo » Tue, 29 Aug 2017, 19:26

amz wrote:Portugal was lucky again, they got away with an away pass and Uruguay didn't helped themselves either; I do think many of those unprovoked mistakes were due to pressure of being the hosts of the tournament, I've seen it here too. About kicking away possession and such silly mistakes it is often encountered to this level.


Why do you say lucky again?

In this game, Uruguay was also lucky cause one of their players should have seen a card and that card should be the red one.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby victorsra » Tue, 29 Aug 2017, 20:47

WTF?! http://www.worldrugby.org/tournament/1732/standings

World Rugby is awarding 2 points for victory and no bonus?!
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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 29 Aug 2017, 21:42

I don't see anything wrong with standings.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby amz » Wed, 30 Aug 2017, 07:34

Lobo wrote:
amz wrote:Portugal was lucky again, they got away with an away pass and Uruguay didn't helped themselves either; I do think many of those unprovoked mistakes were due to pressure of being the hosts of the tournament, I've seen it here too. About kicking away possession and such silly mistakes it is often encountered to this level.


Why do you say lucky again?

In this game, Uruguay was also lucky cause one of their players should have seen a card and that card should be the red one.


First try was due to a lucky bounce, the last one due to a forward pass not noticed by referee so some luck was involved in Portuguese win. Than I remember the matches vs Spain and Romania from Bucharest where Portugal were very close of being defeated. I mean, a try like that one vs Romania happens maybe once in a career for a player and also vs Spain it was really close and some unlucky knock-ons prevented a Spanish win.

Don't get me wrong, I like this team a lot, it is exceptionally coached although it doesn't have great individual players but luck will end at some point.
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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby suofficer » Wed, 30 Aug 2017, 08:09

I think its fair to say you make your own luck in those conditions

also here is a good article, may require google translate http://fairplay.pt/modalidades/rugby/po ... hy-sub-20/

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Lobo » Wed, 30 Aug 2017, 12:30

amz wrote:
Lobo wrote:
amz wrote:Portugal was lucky again, they got away with an away pass and Uruguay didn't helped themselves either; I do think many of those unprovoked mistakes were due to pressure of being the hosts of the tournament, I've seen it here too. About kicking away possession and such silly mistakes it is often encountered to this level.


Why do you say lucky again?

In this game, Uruguay was also lucky cause one of their players should have seen a card and that card should be the red one.


First try was due to a lucky bounce, the last one due to a forward pass not noticed by referee so some luck was involved in Portuguese win. Than I remember the matches vs Spain and Romania from Bucharest where Portugal were very close of being defeated. I mean, a try like that one vs Romania happens maybe once in a career for a player and also vs Spain it was really close and some unlucky knock-ons prevented a Spanish win.

Don't get me wrong, I like this team a lot, it is exceptionally coached although it doesn't have great individual players but luck will end at some point.


Yes, some luck was involved in the Portuguese win. But, as I said, Uruguay was very lucky when the referee and the assistant didn't saw that aggression.

About that try in Romania, I'm afraid that luck had nothing to do with it. The kid that scored it did a great job but that wasn't also the main reason behind that try. Im sure both of us know what allowed that try. It happens, some day it may happen with a Portuguese side (but probably not with this one). It,s not about luck, it's about defense.

Against Spain, as far as I remember, it was an even game, but Portugal did a better.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 30 Aug 2017, 12:41

To me it's as simple as Portugal knowing how to play. They have proved to be a very intelligent and solid team, players know each other and they have been taught to exploit rivals weaknesses rather than imposing their gameplan. Maybe most of these kids wouldn't impress in foreign academies on their own, but together they are a 10/10. When they win against three teams of a similar level in three different ways, there is something more than luck and Fiji should be worried after they took 70 minutes to properly beat Hong Kong.

And yesterday I had big doubts on both Portuguese tries, but hey, I have to admit Uruguay didn't deserve more.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby amz » Wed, 30 Aug 2017, 12:45

Agree, that's why I said it is an exceptionally coached team. They don't have stars but are very well glued together.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby victorsra » Wed, 30 Aug 2017, 14:57

I don't see anything wrong with standings.

They fixed.

They were wrong showing just 2 points for the winners a couple of minutes after the end of the matchday.
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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby amz » Sat, 02 Sep 2017, 19:20

Completely forgot about this. Vamos Uruguay! 10-3 for hosts.

In previous match of the group, Japan 50 - 12 Canada

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Wolves » Sat, 02 Sep 2017, 19:51

Portugal 31 - 24 HK

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby amz » Sat, 02 Sep 2017, 20:12

I like Uruguayan approach, if you don't give them the ball they can't play that razzle dazzle :D

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby sk 88 » Sat, 02 Sep 2017, 20:23

Does this comp have semi finals or does it go straight to a final?

If semis then Namibia and Japan have already qualified with a round to go (where they lay each other), whilst the other pool is still completely open.

Last round is Protugal v Fiji & Uruguay v HK in pool 2 and Namibia v Japan & Chile v Canada in pool 1.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby sk 88 » Sat, 02 Sep 2017, 20:24

Two impressive results from Namibia in any case.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 02 Sep 2017, 20:27

sk 88 wrote:Does this comp have semi finals or does it go straight to a final?

Straight to a final.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 02 Sep 2017, 20:52

Uruguay beats Fiji 34-3, but will have to wait a Portuguese defeat against Fijians to reach the final.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby sk 88 » Sat, 02 Sep 2017, 21:26

Armchair Fan wrote:
sk 88 wrote:Does this comp have semi finals or does it go straight to a final?

Straight to a final.



Okay so Namibia v Japan is basically a semi final then.

Portugal v Fiji is a semi from the Portuguese POV at least.

I think I want a Portugal v Namibia final! :shock:

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 02 Sep 2017, 21:43

Yes, it would make an interesting 2018 U20 World Cup and World Rugby Trophy at the very least. And could even add fuel to 6N+2 U20 tournament fire as well if it ever comes to fruition. On the contrary, if Portugal wins this one, next Rugby Europe U20 Championship would be a poorer one.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Lobo » Sun, 03 Sep 2017, 12:42

There's no way to see replays of the games, right?

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Mon, 04 Sep 2017, 08:45

Lol. Good job Portugal. I cheer for u.
We must hold REC u20 to determine participants in U20 8N

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Neptune » Mon, 04 Sep 2017, 18:58

So basically we have Portugal, Namibia, Japan and Uruguay in the Semis.
Looks good, hopefully Namibia can win it, so that the African qualifiers can get breathing space to join the U-20's.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Warpath » Tue, 05 Sep 2017, 03:43

there is no semis, winner of one pool plays the winner of the other, so a Uruguay or Portugal vs Namibia or Japan the other 2 teams from this play for 3rd place

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby NaBUru38 » Wed, 06 Sep 2017, 17:05

An hour ago, Chile defeated Canada 45 - 28

Uruguay - Fiji is underway, we are leading 14 - 3.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 06 Sep 2017, 17:07

Uruguay - Hong Kong you mean.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy 2017

Postby NaBUru38 » Wed, 06 Sep 2017, 18:13

Correct, sorry. Uruguay won 66 - 10.

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