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2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby victorsra » Wed, 20 Sep 2017, 16:15

The Brazilian Rugby Union (CBRu) had yesterday a meeting with the sponsors and media and said they are negotiating a Brazilian franchise in the Currie Cup as soon as 2018 (but it can be 2019, 2020...).

The article with a video with Agustin Danza, CBRu's CEO, talking about it (in Portuguese): http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... s-selecoes

Any news about possible changes in the 2018 Currie Cup, to make it better for the Cheetahs and the Kings?

Any rumours about African teams? Kenya? Zimbabwe?
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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 20 Sep 2017, 17:25

Rather than Currie Cup I imagine it would be SuperSport Rugby Challenge.

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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby 4N » Wed, 20 Sep 2017, 18:55

Good idea, logical after Pampas XV

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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 21 Sep 2017, 01:32

Huge development for Brazilian Rugby. Just huge. Would be amazing if Uruguay could organise something similar.

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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby NaBUru38 » Thu, 21 Sep 2017, 19:29

4N wrote:Good idea, logical after Pampas XV


Yes, but perhaps it would be a better first step to play versus Argentine teams.

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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby 4N » Thu, 21 Sep 2017, 19:44

Yes, if an option exists with Argentina that is more practical. Especially since Pampas XV didn't play home matches.

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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby victorsra » Thu, 21 Sep 2017, 20:15

Brazilian rugby fans are less excited than you guys about this. People are afraid that CBRu is creating an abyss between the national team and the clubs. Club rugby is really struggling and needs more attention, from junior rugby to senior. Also, many people is questioning why go to South Africa instead of Argentina? Yesterday the government indicated a cut of 87% on the Ministry of Sport's budget. CBRu released that just 1/4 of its budget comes from public sources, but the financial health of Brazilian rugby is not that stable to do such big expensive step. Not now at least.
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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 21 Sep 2017, 20:20

SuperSport Rugby Challenge runs from mid-April to mid-July. It would still leave plenty of space in the yearly schedule for club rugby or a competition in Argentina, even though some tweaks would be needed. I don't think CBRu understand this as a long-term solution but rather a way to give an elite core group of players more high-level games.

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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby carbonero » Thu, 21 Sep 2017, 20:27

Armchair Fan wrote:SuperSport Rugby Challenge runs from mid-April to mid-July. It would still leave plenty of space in the yearly schedule for club rugby or a competition in Argentina, even though some tweaks would be needed. I don't think CBRu understand this as a long-term solution but rather a way to give an elite core group of players more high-level games.

The CEO of the CBRu talks about just 8 games in the video victor posted. So its not the SuperSport Rugby Challenge (former Vodacom Cup). Its probably the Currie Cup second division, which goes from 25 August to 20 October. It works better both with the clubs and the national team schedule.

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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby NaBUru38 » Sun, 24 Sep 2017, 00:34

victorsra wrote: Yesterday the government indicated a cut of 87% on the Ministry of Sport's budget.


Holy banknotes! Unless the CBRu gets sponsors, I would think they can't afford a tour to South Africa.

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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby eal22 » Sun, 24 Sep 2017, 21:35

I am surprised no one has suggested a Brazilian Conference for Super Rugby yet!

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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby carbonero » Sun, 24 Sep 2017, 23:08

eal22 wrote:I am surprised no one has suggested a Brazilian Conference for Super Rugby yet!

You are bitching about the same thing in every post. Its getting old. At least try to say something constructive

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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby victorsra » Sun, 24 Sep 2017, 23:42

Holy banknotes! Unless the CBRu gets sponsors, I would think they can't afford a tour to South Africa.


They said 74% of their budget is private. But I should check it.

Well, what can we expect from Brazilian national teams next year?

15s - probably they will keep improving, at least in 2018. If we'd have any problems it would be by 2019.
Men's 7s - probably expect nothing, it will be a young side far from CBRu's priorities... they are NOT favorites to qualy to San Francisco 2018... I wouldn't be surprised to see them falling to Colombia...
Women's 7s - tricky! They will keep being South America's top team and they will be in SF 2018, but if they fail to go back to the WSS I would start to be afraid about their future... good players, good new young faces, but all the sevens system depends on the Ministry's money... at least now.
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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby eal22 » Mon, 25 Sep 2017, 13:49

carbonero wrote:
eal22 wrote:I am surprised no one has suggested a Brazilian Conference for Super Rugby yet!

You are bitching about the same thing in every post. Its getting old. At least try to say something constructive


Because every post gets hijacked by those who want to organise the most ridiculous tournaments possible, and not focus on real growth of the game.

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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Mon, 25 Sep 2017, 16:00

Brazil is in a place of few options so this may be worth exploring. I guess they consider that asking to enter the a side in the Argentine domestic league (like Uruguay?) would not strengthen them enough, particularly if they also want to use this as a platform for moving towards a professional side (e.g. Super Rugby).

With Brazil's journey to Romania in June we know that their union does not lack ambition. I don't think that there is any easy answer here for how Brazil can progress their game.

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Re: 2018 Currie Cup - with Brazil?

Postby victorsra » Mon, 25 Sep 2017, 20:55

And now more news. It was launched today an event on Facebook for the launch of a new professional Brazilian league, "Rugby Pro Series Brasil": http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... e-aproxima

It is a private attempt that looks exactly like any of those dozen North American attempts. Let's wait, I'll attend their launching event. The event is NOT the kickoff of the league, it s the launch of the project. MANY questions, starting with "where is the money".
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