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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby Blurandski » Tue, 31 Jul 2018, 20:14

Tonga v French Barbarians in Bordeaux (cap 34,700) on 10/11/18.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 01 Aug 2018, 03:45

World Rugby really should be trying to get nations like Chile, Korea, Kenya, etc playing in Europe each year. Would be good for Russia to get some games against World Cup nations this November too. Match against Samoa would be a good one to get.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby suofficer » Wed, 01 Aug 2018, 06:29

It would be nice for Portugal to get a fixture.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby rugby.change » Wed, 01 Aug 2018, 13:33

Georgia are set to host Samoa and Tonga in November. Whilst there are rumors Brazil and Chile will host an additions test match aside from the Maori All Blacks tour. Perhaps Portugal?

At the moment these qualified teams (and Romania) don't have games in each week; (obviously pending the likely hood of Namibia qualifying)

10 Nov - Romania, Samoa, Namibia, Russia, Japan
17 Nov - Romania, Samoa, Russia, Georgia, USA
24 Nov - Russia, Georgia, Tonga, Japan, Namibia

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 01 Aug 2018, 13:40

I know it's the Unions responsibility to organise games against each other but I really think World Rugby should be trying to get as many nations playing during November. Europe is the biggest market for the sport and if we can get as many European nations involved it's going to help the sport out a lot. You've got Hong Kong, Korea, Kenya, Brazil, Chile, Zimbabwe, Uganda, etc, get them all playing Germany, Russia, Portugal, Belgium, Netherlands, etc. No reason you couldn't stage 15-16 games over each weekend.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby Blurandski » Wed, 01 Aug 2018, 13:55

By the sounds of it WR brokered Spain's AIs. One big issue is that the Rugby Europe Trophy is played on at least two of 10/17/24, hence why Romania need to keep it's schedule clear for a couple of those weekends.

I'd like to see the RET move to the 6N window so that the AIs are clear for intercontinental tests.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby bolleje » Wed, 01 Aug 2018, 14:02

Sorry thatrugbyguy, but I never understood how inter-regional friendly games on this level will help anyone. Let's take Belgium for example... imagine them playing Hong Kong, Kenya and Chile this november. You (and a small group of rugby fanatics) will think: wow, great to see how those match up. Everyone else (including the major press) will just ignore it. Honestly, nobody cares about Belgium-Chile in rugby union if it's not on the World Cup (or another significant event). For me, it's a waste of money and logistics. There are a number of possible ways to get attention for the national rugby team in Belgium which are:
- qualifying for the world cup (or getting close to this)
- playing a major nation (preferably the all blacks), but this means also getting completely smashed
- qualifying for a major continental tournament aka European Championships (which is rumoured to be planned)
- local rivalries. In Flanders Belgium vs The Netherlands always draws some attention, no matter what sport. It's also one of the only games I can remember getting some coverage on the main sports tv show, even though that game isn't that significant sports and results wise. Maybe you could create some interest in creating a tournament with the Netherlands and Germany.

Belgium-Chile or Belgium-Hong Kong however? Nope... won't do a thing. You could argue that it's important to face good competition, but Spain, Romania, Georgia, Germany and Russia offer this already on a yearly basis. No need to have teams travelling half of the world for this.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby victorsra » Wed, 01 Aug 2018, 15:28

The importance is to provide those nations a bigger varity of opponents - which is always good, specially for those teams in the bottom of the REC, AfGC or ARC, allowing them to win matches every year (and not only lose) against teams in the same ranking zone, which provides proper and realistic points exchange - and to test the level of each continent (which is importante for WR in global strategies).
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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 01 Aug 2018, 15:40

thatrugbyguy wrote:I know it's the Unions responsibility to organise games against each other but I really think World Rugby should be trying to get as many nations playing during November. Europe is the biggest market for the sport and if we can get as many European nations involved it's going to help the sport out a lot. You've got Hong Kong, Korea, Kenya, Brazil, Chile, Zimbabwe, Uganda, etc, get them all playing Germany, Russia, Portugal, Belgium, Netherlands, etc. No reason you couldn't stage 15-16 games over each weekend.

Well, like it or not the Home Nations and France run rugby in the Autumn and the Southern Hemisphere Nations run the Summer when it comes to tours. So the rest of us get one game scraps.

England could host probably anyone in the Autumn and still earn a shitload of cash. So the US is left to going on tour to Georgia and Germany. Georgia being solidly competitive and they make some cash, but when we get them here we can't get 4k people to show up. Hosting a T2 does nothing for us financially and hosting the wrong T2 does nothing for us competitively.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby NaBUru38 » Wed, 01 Aug 2018, 19:47

Europe has dozens of competitive national teams very close to each other.

Namibia, Hong Kong, Chile and Tonga are less lucky. Playing their neighbors once and again is not enough, they need to play abroad.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby polter » Wed, 01 Aug 2018, 21:40

Poland will be playing a friendly fixture against Rovigo in Italy on the 11th August.

A big squad is going with a few new names, especially players that have Polish heritage. Some from Italy, Edinburgh Academicals in Scotland and most interesting is Auguy Slowik, the fullback/wing who played for Bristol and Worcester in the Premiership and currently for Jersey Reds in the Championship (English tier 2).

01 Marcin Wilczuk MKS Ogniwo Sopot
02 George Pollock Derby RFC (Anglia)
03 Craig Bachurzewski Coney Hill RFC (Anglia)/ Ogniwo Sopot
04 Łukasz Kujawa Budowlani Łódź SA
05 Adrian Chróściel MKS Pogoń Siedlce
06 Grzegorz Buczek RC Lechia Gdańsk
07 Robinzon Kelberashvilli KS Budowlani Lublin
08 Sebastian Kostałkowski OKS Skra Warszawa
09 Adam Piotrowski MKS Ogniwo Sopot
10 Piotr Karpinski II Budowlani Łódź SA
11 Adrian Ignaczak Budowlani Łódź SA
12 Dawid Dybowski MKS Pogoń Siedlce
13 Ronan Seydak Edinburgh Accies (Szkocja)
14 Hugo Mazur Olympique Marcquois Rugby
15 Krzysztof Justynski Budowlani Łódź SA
16 Piotr Wiśniewski KS Budowlani Lublin
17 Marek Płonka RC Lechia Gdańsk
18 Stanisław Niedźwiecki MKS Ogniwo Sopot
19 Flavio Romualdi Arvalia Villa Pamphili Rugby Roma (Włochy)
20 Piotr Zeszutek MKS Ogniwo Sopot
21 Lawie Seydak Edinburgh Accies (Szkocja)
22 Dawid Plichta Budowlani Łódź SA
23 Matuesz Plichta MKS Ogniwo Sopot
24 Dawid Banaszek RC Arka Gdynia
25 Wojciech Piotrowicz MKS Ogniwo Sopot
26 Patryk Reksulak Budowlani Łódź SA
27 Bartosz Kubalewski Budowlani Łódź SA
28 Daniel Gdula MKS Pogoń Siedlce
29 Grzegorz Szczepański MKS Ogniwo Sopot
30 Kewin Bracik RC Lechia Gdańsk
31 Mateusz Matyjak Budowlani Łódź SA
32 Robert Bosiacki Budowlani Łódź SA
33 Tomasz Rokicki RC Lechia Gdańsk
34 Jakub Kamiński KS Budowlani Lublin
35 Przemysław Rajewski MKS Pogoń Siedlce
36 Krystian Pogorzelski Budowlani Łódź SA
37 Agustin Slowik Jersey Reds RFC (Anglia)

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby Canalina » Thu, 02 Aug 2018, 05:04

polter wrote:19 Flavio Romualdi Arvalia Villa Pamphili Rugby Roma (Włochy)

Villa Pamphili plays in italian Serie B (Top 12 -> Serie A -> Serie B -> Serie C -> Serie C2), but they were near to compete for the promotion in serie A, last year; Romualdi wears the jersey #6, according to a quick research
I suppose he has a polish mother

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby YamahaKiwi » Fri, 03 Aug 2018, 23:54

Sankei Sports reports this morning that Hanazono rugby stadium in Osaka that is hosting some RWC games next year will have it's first game since having a reconstruction when Japan plays a World XV in its opening end of year match on October 26th. It will be the first ever night game for the previously fairly decrepit stadium originally opened in 1929. It finally now has lights and a big screen.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sat, 04 Aug 2018, 01:10

polter wrote:Poland will be playing a friendly fixture against Rovigo in Italy on the 11th August.

A big squad is going with a few new names, especially players that have Polish heritage. Some from Italy, Edinburgh Academicals in Scotland and most interesting is Auguy Slowik, the fullback/wing who played for Bristol and Worcester in the Premiership and currently for Jersey Reds in the Championship (English tier 2).

01 Marcin Wilczuk MKS Ogniwo Sopot
02 George Pollock Derby RFC (Anglia)
03 Craig Bachurzewski Coney Hill RFC (Anglia)/ Ogniwo Sopot
04 Łukasz Kujawa Budowlani Łódź SA
05 Adrian Chróściel MKS Pogoń Siedlce
06 Grzegorz Buczek RC Lechia Gdańsk
07 Robinzon Kelberashvilli KS Budowlani Lublin
08 Sebastian Kostałkowski OKS Skra Warszawa
09 Adam Piotrowski MKS Ogniwo Sopot
10 Piotr Karpinski II Budowlani Łódź SA
11 Adrian Ignaczak Budowlani Łódź SA
12 Dawid Dybowski MKS Pogoń Siedlce
13 Ronan Seydak Edinburgh Accies (Szkocja)
14 Hugo Mazur Olympique Marcquois Rugby
15 Krzysztof Justynski Budowlani Łódź SA
16 Piotr Wiśniewski KS Budowlani Lublin
17 Marek Płonka RC Lechia Gdańsk
18 Stanisław Niedźwiecki MKS Ogniwo Sopot
19 Flavio Romualdi Arvalia Villa Pamphili Rugby Roma (Włochy)
20 Piotr Zeszutek MKS Ogniwo Sopot
21 Lawie Seydak Edinburgh Accies (Szkocja)
22 Dawid Plichta Budowlani Łódź SA
23 Matuesz Plichta MKS Ogniwo Sopot
24 Dawid Banaszek RC Arka Gdynia
25 Wojciech Piotrowicz MKS Ogniwo Sopot
26 Patryk Reksulak Budowlani Łódź SA
27 Bartosz Kubalewski Budowlani Łódź SA
28 Daniel Gdula MKS Pogoń Siedlce
29 Grzegorz Szczepański MKS Ogniwo Sopot
30 Kewin Bracik RC Lechia Gdańsk
31 Mateusz Matyjak Budowlani Łódź SA
32 Robert Bosiacki Budowlani Łódź SA
33 Tomasz Rokicki RC Lechia Gdańsk
34 Jakub Kamiński KS Budowlani Lublin
35 Przemysław Rajewski MKS Pogoń Siedlce
36 Krystian Pogorzelski Budowlani Łódź SA
37 Agustin Slowik Jersey Reds RFC (Anglia)


So issue with Lodz was sorted out?

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby polter » Sat, 04 Aug 2018, 06:49

It looks like it, but there was an article from the local paper in Lodz where the manager of the team there was complaining about the Polish Rugby Union not giving the called up players any notice that the camp was going ahead and so they couldn't organise getting the time off. This is strange as I believe many of the Lodz players are pretty much employed by the club but either way it looks like only the fullback Pogorzelski will probably be going.

Lodz had been putting on 70-80 points against most opponents in the first part of the Polish season and look a cut above any other team in the country. There was a clip on youtube of a press conference they gave where the management said they had wanted to enter the European club competition but needed to apply via the Union who did not even reply to emails or any request to discuss the matter so I'd say the relationship between the two is still frosty.

Players from the club like the centre Reksulak have been playing in the Grand Prix sevens, but it seems that there still might be a club verses country issue for the XVs game. I seem to remember there was a situation last year where Lodz needed to beat Ogniwo Sopot away to qualify for the final of the Polish League. The weekend before, Poland played the Czech Republic in Prague and only one Lodz player went as the rest were meant to be injured, but all then seemed to be fine to play the next weekend, beat Sopot and go on to win the league for which they got a nice grant from the city. This may all be legitimate but many Lodz players were continually not available for the remainder of Poland's game last season which is particularly disappointing as many were close and several home games were or are being planned to be held in Lodz....

By the way, have you noticed the fixture list for next season is up on the Rugby Europe web site? The home and away pattern seems to be a bit disrupted with the first game again being Poland away to the Czech Republic. It also seems to be assumed that Portugal will remain in the RET with placeholder dates at least for the time being.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby dwpeate » Sun, 05 Aug 2018, 11:47

Is this a training game with all 37 players playing do you know?

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby polter » Sun, 05 Aug 2018, 13:17

The polish team will be together training for most of the week leading up to the game on the 11th so it could well be a case of getting most people a run out so I wouldn't be surprised to see completely different team come out after half time. This session will probably be the main trials and preparation before the game against the Czechs on the 29th September as the Polish league starts on the 1st September. There are back to back weekends of fixtures until the first international of the RET with the exception of the Grand Prix sevens taking place in Lodz on the 8th/9th Sept.

Poland have had bad luck with their pre-season and winter break preparation lately. They used to go on tour to South Africa or France but more recently have had to go up into the Polish mountains or Germany where it was too cold to train outdoors. The Czechs on the other hand have got it just right. They arrange fixtures with invitational sides such as the New Zealand Ambassadors or the South African Barbarians. The latter happened just before their game with Poland last year, was against a much tougher opponent than any other team in the RET and you could see the difference it made on the pitch. In winter the Czechs went to Malta for warm weather training which again just seems more logical than going to Germany in the grips of the Beast form the East. I had a look on the Czech Union's website and it looks like they'll have a game against the US Panthers on the 1st September and the French Barbarians on the 3rd November before their game against Switzerland on the 17th. Both will be great practice and generate revenue for the Union. I don't know why Poland don't try something similar in Krakow or Warsaw.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby IanCleverly » Tue, 07 Aug 2018, 15:05

Hungary have announced a test against the USA South (the side in the RAN Championship) for the 26th August. They'll continue their Central European tour will games to follow against Austria and the Czech Republic.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby Canalina » Wed, 08 Aug 2018, 02:19

Rovigo-Poland: no live stream, I suppose, but perhaps live text on https://twitter.com/RugbyRovigoDelt

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby Canalina » Sat, 11 Aug 2018, 12:45

Rovigo v Poland, tonight at 19.30 CET, will be live on http://www.therugbychannel.it

or maybe in their facebook page https://www.facebook.com/rugbychannelwebtv/

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby Canalina » Sat, 11 Aug 2018, 17:33

Rovigo v Poland live


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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby Canalina » Sat, 11 Aug 2018, 19:36

Rovigo v Poland 68-11

This seems suggesting that polish rugby can't aspire to a place in Continental Shield, at the moment.
The fact itself that they fielded Romualdi, an unknown italian serie B player, in the starting XV shows that the gap with lower T1 or high T2 is still very large

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby polter » Sat, 11 Aug 2018, 19:54

As you say there was an obvious gap between the 2 teams with Rovigo looking much fitter and stronger especially their number 6 and 11.

18 of Polands original 37 called up squad had dropped out - mainly Budolani Lodz players - so there's still a chance of Poland fielding a better team when it comes to the RET if there's a reconciliation between club and union....

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby Tobar » Sat, 11 Aug 2018, 20:11

IanCleverly wrote:Hungary have announced a test against the USA South (the side in the RAN Championship) for the 26th August. They'll continue their Central European tour will games to follow against Austria and the Czech Republic.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/MRGSZ/photos/a ... 21/?type=3


That’s pretty cool. I wish we had more regional touring sides from the US but I’m pretty happy we have at least something that’s been going on for some years now.

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Re: 2018 tests/friendlies

Postby Canalina » Tue, 14 Aug 2018, 06:22

polter wrote:As you say there was an obvious gap between the 2 teams with Rovigo looking much fitter and stronger especially their number 6 and 11.

18 of Polands original 37 called up squad had dropped out - mainly Budolani Lodz players - so there's still a chance of Poland fielding a better team when it comes to the RET if there's a reconciliation between club and union....

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