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Samoa Rugby Bankrupt

Postby Thomas » Thu, 09 Nov 2017, 20:22

With the Autumn Internationals starting in 2 days it is Interesting that this has now come to a head, Looks as if it's slightly like blackmail to the unions involved with games pending. RFU has pledge to help Samoa with £75K as a goodwill gesture.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/41915435

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugb ... 44101.html

According to the independent:

The RFU confirmed on Wednesday that they will offer a “goodwill gesture” of £75,000 to Samoa – the same as what they offered Fiji last year – as well as cover all over their costs while they are in London, with the Scotland Rugby Union also set to cover costs.

However, the offer fewer than 10 per cent of what the RFU generate from home Tests at Twickenham, with a sum of around £10m generated whenever England play at home.

WR is being urged to review the governance of Samoa Rugby, this has been known for a long time the ongoing financial problems in the union also the fact that the Head of Samoa is the PM of the country does make you wonder.

Pouring more money is not an answer but a root and branch review and where all the money has gone?
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Re: Samoa Rugby Bankrupt

Postby thatrugbyguy » Thu, 09 Nov 2017, 23:56

Bloody hell. Samoa need to get their crap together.

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Re: Samoa Rugby Bankrupt

Postby Neptune » Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 00:05

bullocks, handouts and donations won't help them, those are short term remedies, they need to look at the long run and find ways of financing their sport, hell, every country needs the money, but they work hard for it.

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Re: Samoa Rugby Bankrupt

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 00:28

Look at new ways of financing the sport? They have no problems financing it, they have problems managing the finances they receive. It's the second time in less than a decade they ask people for donations and the money for 2011 Rugby World Cup basically disappeared. The budget they claim to need to sustain their international schedule is above Tonga, Romania, Uruguay...

If no guarantees are put in place to prevent mismanagement of funds, it's pointless to give them more money. I know people always feel sympathy for Pacific Islanders, but Samoa is clearly lagging behind Fiji and Tonga in so many ways and reading things like these don't help me to feel sympathetic at all: http://www.samoaobserver.ws/en/25_06_20 ... -Union.htm

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Re: Samoa Rugby Bankrupt

Postby thatrugbyguy » Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 00:55

You have to wonder at what point World Rugby starts penalising Samoa.

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Re: Samoa Rugby Bankrupt

Postby ihateblazers » Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 03:10

Armchair Fan wrote:Look at new ways of financing the sport? They have no problems financing it, they have problems managing the finances they receive. It's the second time in less than a decade they ask people for donations and the money for 2011 Rugby World Cup basically disappeared. The budget they claim to need to sustain their international schedule is above Tonga, Romania, Uruguay...

If no guarantees are put in place to prevent mismanagement of funds, it's pointless to give them more money. I know people always feel sympathy for Pacific Islanders, but Samoa is clearly lagging behind Fiji and Tonga in so many ways and reading things like these don't help me to feel sympathetic at all: http://www.samoaobserver.ws/en/25_06_20 ... -Union.htm


I don't think the author of that letter is willing to accept the reality that the PM being the chairman of the union is a big problem, and the fact that he has overseen some of the worst management in global rugby. ""Honourable""... Fucking wake up

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Re: Samoa Rugby Bankrupt

Postby nick511 » Sat, 11 Nov 2017, 10:42

Trying to follow a money trail in the Islands is like trying to follow a rabbit down a rabbit hole. Giving them money directly is not going to work unless it is managed by a third- party agent. It's exactly the same with aid money, NZ refused to give money directly to the government but rather to aid agencies in previous cases. Once you get to know Samoan culture you will get a fair idea where it's probably gone, its a sad but a true state of life there.

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Re: Samoa Rugby Bankrupt

Postby Immenso » Tue, 21 Nov 2017, 21:06

https://www.worldrugby.org/news/293372

'Bankrupt' rather than bankrupt.

World Rugby comments relating to Samoa's financial situation
World Rugby continues to be fully committed to assisting the Samoa Rugby Union (SRU) with its current financial challenges.

Recent statements made by the chairman of the SRU questioning World Rugby’s funding package are inaccurate. While the SRU’s failure to implement some jointly agreed high-performance initiatives in 2017 is a concern to World Rugby, it has resulted in a small amount of conditional investment being withheld.

World Rugby’s support of all tier two unions is both financial and administrative and is delivered on a partnership basis with each union. World Rugby continues to support the SRU’s national men’s 15s and sevens high-performance programmes with a record £1.5 million in overall investment in 2017, specifically including:


• Directly funding all insurance costs for the national 15s players while on international duty to maintain the highest standards of player welfare
• Funding a training camp in London to provide valuable preparation ahead of the November tests

• Funding the travel costs of Samoa players and other countries

• Funding any flights between test matches and all on-the ground expenses when playing against another tier two country or participating in World Rugby-organised tournaments

World Rugby can clarify that the union is not bankrupt and would also like to clarify the inaccurate statements made by the SRU Chairman relating to the selection of the national men’s 15s team coach. World Rugby did not interfere with the recruitment and selection process. A clear and transparent process was agreed by all parties. However, the union did not wish to accept the recommendation of the independently chaired selection panel, which included SRU representatives. The SRU board decided to make its own appointment. Therefore, World Rugby withdrew the funding allocated to this position but continues to honour its funding commitments for 2017 in line with the high-performance funding agreement.

World Rugby’s support extends further than just financial commitments. It is working in partnership with Pacific Rugby Players (the official IRPA-affiliated body representing Pacific Island players) to implement personal development, player welfare and other important initiatives to support Pacific Island players all over the world. World Rugby remains committed to supporting all Pacific Island unions in achieving their
potential on and off the field and applauds the excellent progress made by the Fiji Rugby Union since implementing key governance and administrative reforms which are delivering significant positive results for the union.

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Re: Samoa Rugby Bankrupt

Postby amz » Tue, 21 Nov 2017, 21:12

this puts Samoan Rugby Union in a bad light...I feel for players and hopefully this will be sort soon.

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