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November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

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November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby victorsra » Thu, 23 Nov 2017, 14:01

Another unprecedented match.

Venue: Villajoyosa - 3.000 places
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Referee: Sean Gallagher (Ireland)
4PM local time
Broadcast: TDP (Spain) and SporTV (Brazil)

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby Bogdan_DC » Thu, 23 Nov 2017, 14:41

Nava is now in 3rd line ? he is not a center? how many positions he played for Spain? :)

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby victorsra » Thu, 23 Nov 2017, 14:43

Brazilian squad is still the same:

Forwards: Endy Willian Pinheiro (Curitiba), Yan Rosetti (CUBA, Argentina), Caique Silva Segura (São José), Lucas Abud (Poli), Matheus Rocha “Blade” (Jacareí), Michel Olimpo de Oliveira (São José), Pedro Bengaló (Desterro), Gabriel Paganini (Bandeirantes Saracens), Lucas Piero de Moraes “Bruxinho” (Desterro), Alexandre Alves "Texugo" (Desterro), Angelo Marcucci (Farrapos), Arthur Bergo (SPAC), Cléber Dias "Gelado" (Poli), André de Arruda "Buda" (Desterro), Mauricio Canterle (Farrapos), Matheus da Cruz Daniel “Matias” (Jacareí);

Backs: Douglas Rauth (Curitiba), Matheus Cruz (Jacareí), William Broderick (Bandeirantes Saracens), Josh Reeves (Jacareí), Leonardo Cecarelli (Jacareí), Moisés Duque (São José), Felipe Sancery (São José), Jacobus De Wet Van Niekerk (Poli), Lucas Muller (Desterro), LucasTranquez “Zé” (SPAC), Stefano Giantorno (São José), Daniel Sancery (São José);




Waiting for the final 1 to 23 lineups!
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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 23 Nov 2017, 14:51

Bogdan_DC wrote:Nava is now in 3rd line ? he is not a center? how many positions he played for Spain? :)

All but front row. Really. He even played at Sevens World Series last May.

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby Bogdan_DC » Thu, 23 Nov 2017, 14:55

Armchair Fan wrote:
Bogdan_DC wrote:Nava is now in 3rd line ? he is not a center? how many positions he played for Spain? :)

All but front row. Really. He even played at Sevens World Series last May.

He should be in for a Guinness Book place :).

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 24 Nov 2017, 12:11

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby victorsra » Fri, 24 Nov 2017, 14:18

They used many names we don't use for the players. They used the second names instead of their last names. Zanella is Arruda, Rodrigues is Duques, Amadeu is Muller, Figueiredo is Alves, Toscanell is Piero de Moraes, De Jesus is Pinheiro, Mota is Rosetti.
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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby victorsra » Fri, 24 Nov 2017, 14:54

Brasil: 15 Daniel Sancery, 14 De Wet Van Niekerk, 13 Felipe Sancery (c), 12 Moisés Duque, 11 Stefano Giantorno, 10 Josh Reeves, 9 Matheus Cruz, 8 André "Buda" Arruda, 7 Cléber "Gelado" Dias, 6 Arthur Bergo, 5 Mauri Canterle, 4 Lucas "Bruxinho" Piero, 3 Pedro Bengaló, 2 Endy Willian Pinheiro, 1 Michel Olimpo Gomes;

Suplentes: 16 Yan Rosetti, 17 Lucas Abud, 18 Caique Silva, 19 Alexandre "Texugo" Alves, 20 Matheus "Matias" Daniel, 21 Douglas Rauth, 22 Lucas "Zé" Tranquez, 23 Lucas Muller;
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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby NaBUru38 » Fri, 24 Nov 2017, 21:01

Good to see first ever matches.

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 25 Nov 2017, 15:47

HT 31-7. As against Romania or Germany I feel Brazil should be playing RET teams in Europe and hosting REC teams in June. This is too much.

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby victorsra » Sat, 25 Nov 2017, 16:08

Horrible Brazilian match..... many errors that are the same of the previous matches...
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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby victorsra » Sat, 25 Nov 2017, 16:20

At least our second try was a masterpiece! Rugby Arte :D
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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 25 Nov 2017, 16:41

FT: 67-28. Two late Brazilian converted tries flattered the score, a big mismatch today...

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 25 Nov 2017, 19:53

Signal from first 15 minutes was lost due to a technical glitch, only footage from later on is available. Facepalm...
http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/rugb ... l/4325558/

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby victorsra » Sat, 25 Nov 2017, 22:16

Espanha

Tries: Pinto (3), Linklater, Peluchon, Auzqui, Barthere, Alvarez, Gimeno, Bonan e Perrin

15 Charlie Malie, 14 Brad Linklater, 13 Mathieu Peluchon, 12 Thibaut Alvarez, 11 Ignacio Contardi, 10 Daniel Snee, 9 Guillaume Rouet, 8 Thibaut Vissenssang, 7 Gautier Gibouin (c), 6 Pierre Barthere, 5 Anibal Bonan, 4 David Barrera, 3 Jonathan Garcia, 2 Marco Pinto, 1 Beñat Auzqui;

Suplentes: 16 Fernando Lopez, 17 Juan Anaya, 18 Jesus Moreno, 19 Kalokalo Gavidi, 20 Jaime Nava, 21 Sebastien Rouet, 22 Alvaro Gimeno, 23 Fabien Perrin;

Brasil

Tries: Moisés (2), Endy e Yan

Conversões: Josh (4)

15 Daniel Sancery, 14 De Wet Van Niekerk, 13 Felipe Sancery (c), 12 Moisés Duque, 11 Stefano Giantorno, 10 Josh Reeves, 9 Matheus Cruz, 8 André "Buda" Arruda, 7 Cléber "Gelado" Dias, 6 Arthur Bergo, 5 Mauri Canterle, 4 Lucas "Bruxinho" Piero, 3 Pedro Bengaló, 2 Endy Willian Pinheiro, 1 Michel Olimpo Gomes;

Suplentes: 16 Yan Rosetti, 17 Lucas Abud, 18 Caique Silva, 19 Alexandre "Texugo" Alves, 20 Matheus "Matias" Daniel, 21 Douglas Rauth, 22 Lucas "Zé" Tranquez, 23 Lucas Muller;


Highlights (not sure if it is geoblocked): http://globotv.globo.com/sportv/sportv/ ... y/6314162/
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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby Neptune » Sun, 26 Nov 2017, 01:22

Brazil has been the affirmative action tier 3 nation by WR. They could even have gotten more tests than other t2's, anyway, that being said, such scorelines should be a thing of the past, Brazil should either step up their game with this added privilege or else play with teams in their range of +_ 6 in the rankings. As the saying goes, to whom much is given, much is expected, a scoreline of half a century plus, is no way to show WR gratitude for the added privilege.

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 26 Nov 2017, 09:48

It's not a privilege, they played well in Americas Rugby Championship and they deserve these games. I just think they should act as hosts before facing this opposition and learn how to tour by playing more levelled games. Maybe a good idea would be to hold a Nations Cup like tournament in June, parallel to the one contested in Uruguay, just like we had Tbilisi and Nations Cup.

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 26 Nov 2017, 10:41

Not full game, but at least this broadcast didn't miss the first two minutes: http://rugbylist.blogspot.com.es/p/2511 ... razil.html

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby NaBUru38 » Sun, 26 Nov 2017, 21:17

In the past two years, Brazil has defeated United States, Canada, Portugal and Belgium.

To improve, they also need to play harder teams. for example Romania and Spain like this month.

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 26 Nov 2017, 23:28

They beat USA, Canada and Portugal at home, not away. I'm not saying they shouldn't play harder teams, come on, I wouldn't be in this forum if I thought like that, I just say they should face slightly easier opposition away and host these teams.

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 27 Nov 2017, 00:20

Lets put things in perspective, it was only 5 or 6 years ago Brazil was getting thrashed by 100+ points vs the Argentina XV team. They've made tremendous progress in such a short period of time. Most teams have bad days where they leak points. Australia just had 50+ points put on them by Scotland over the weekend, and France lost to NZ by 60 in a world cup quarter final. Plus, the only way you learn is if you play tougher opposition, sometimes that means getting beaten badly on the score board. But that's rugby.

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby victorsra » Mon, 27 Nov 2017, 03:00

Armchair Fan wrote:They beat USA, Canada and Portugal at home, not away. I'm not saying they shouldn't play harder teams, come on, I wouldn't be in this forum if I thought like that, I just say they should face slightly easier opposition away and host these teams.

The next two tasks for Brazil is a home victory against Uruguay and an alway victory against Chile. Step by step.
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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby danindech » Mon, 27 Nov 2017, 11:35

victorsra wrote:
Armchair Fan wrote:They beat USA, Canada and Portugal at home, not away. I'm not saying they shouldn't play harder teams, come on, I wouldn't be in this forum if I thought like that, I just say they should face slightly easier opposition away and host these teams.

The next two tasks for Brazil is a home victory against Uruguay and an alway victory against Chile. Step by step.


THIS

People got short memory. Few years back and we have the Brazilian squad being beaten by Chile by 30 or 40 points AT HOME, and suffering to win over Paraguay. First game with Portugal, not long ago, here in Brazil, had a visitor's win by 60 points. Now, Brazil has a much more structured national rugby calendar, will have next year the first season of a professional league and as for the results, Paraguay is no longer a match (last time, Brazil had a 40 points advantage), already is beating Chile at home and got really really close to doing that away as well, just like winning Uruguay at home and getting close away.

I would like to see more games with same level countries, like Belgium (Netherlands, Switzerland, South Korea, Kenya, etc.) but I appreciate playing much harder matches, like Romania and Spain, in order to evaluate the development (like the matches with Portugal).

Sorry, I don't see any disappointment here. The opposite is true.

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby amz » Mon, 27 Nov 2017, 11:52

Brazil's progress is obvious and they toured for first time and played versus stronger nations like Romania and Spain. For teams that didn't have this experience, it isn't easy at the beginning and the interest for local competition will benefit them on long term, however somebody pointed that they don't select players from abroad, who play in France and I think they shouldn't refuse this possibility.

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Re: November 25th - Spain vs Brazil

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 27 Nov 2017, 16:10

I'd say FER has uploaded the complete version of the broadcast... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU7CbBl1smU

OK, I believe it's missing the first try

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