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U20 Championship 2018

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby Blurandski » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 11:33

RugbyLiebe wrote:
FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:
By the way do anybody else know what are naturalization rules for juniors teams (e.g. U20)?

As Aussies use to say, their RULES (AFL Game) is good 'cause there are NO RULES

Ditto for U20


This might lead to funny cases, that somebody plays for the U20 and then isn't allowed to play for the senior national team for, let's say, 4 years. Or is this another loop-hole? 8-)


Yup, you can play at U20 level for a country, and not be eligible to play national team rugby until you're 24.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 11:43

I do wonder what’s going to happen if Ireland get relegated.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 13:54

thatrugbyguy wrote:I do wonder what’s going to happen if Ireland get relegated.


We are at a stage that, if you are for the growth of rugby, you have to wish the worst to all 6N teams involved. So if Ireland gets relegated only good things can happen.

Thing is, that's not even remotely a surprise as the eligible older year should have been a part in the 2015 shambles were Ireland and Scotland (sic!) were about to play for relegation from the EURO Elite U18 (8 teams). I wonder how Portugal would have done in this tournament. I mean the guys who finished 6th ahead of Ireland and Scotland 2015 only narrowly lost the final in the Trophy last year.
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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby gibbs » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 15:34

So happy to see France back to their champagne Rugby.. Hope this team will graduate to that French fair that was sadly lacking in the last two decades or so, I'm rooting for them over Ingerland for the final

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby Raven » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 15:37

gibbs wrote:So happy to see France back to their champagne Rugby.. Hope this team will graduate to that French fair that was sadly lacking in the last two decades or so, I'm rooting for them over Ingerland for the final


Not to mention that is also refreshing to see other teams going for the title instead of the same old 3 or 4 participants...

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby gibbs » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 15:53

Raven wrote:
gibbs wrote:So happy to see France back to their champagne Rugby.. Hope this team will graduate to that French fair that was sadly lacking in the last two decades or so, I'm rooting for them over Ingerland for the final


Not to mention that is also refreshing to see other teams going for the title instead of the same old 3 or 4 participants...


Definitely.. Awesome to see the tier 2's doing so good, Georgia was a treat to watch

And Argentina special because both teams are home grown talent.. Future looks super if they keep the talent intact, Not failing to mention the young Italian team

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby Tobar » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 17:38

And if Ireland gets relegated they will surely be back in within the next few years.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby sk 88 » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 18:21

Blurandski wrote:
zgs wrote:Oliver wrote: Ireland will never go to Trophy. The tournament would be expanded few days later if Ireland is relegated...
Blurandski wrote: If Ireland lose vs Japan then the odds of it being expanded to 16 next year is somewhere between 95% and 100% imo.

I have the same feeling, and that’s why badly want Japans win. Competition of 3 groups with 12 teams is very strange and just stupid. :shock:


Yup, it makes a lot of sense to expand it back up again. I wonder who'll host it next year, given that this year's event has been massively successful in terms of tickets sold by placing it in a rugby-mad area of France, starved of top tier rugby, whereas the 2016 version was hosted in Manchester, and the final couldn't sell out the AJ Bell, due to Manchester being one of the less strong RU areas. Hosting it in the West Country (Sandy Park, Bath, Kingsholm for example), or Munster, the Venice area, the Eastern Cape etc could all be similarly successful. If they can get the competition to pay for itself, then it frees up a lot of money to fund either a slightly expanded trophy (say 12 teams from 8) and a proper Continental Shield with twice as many teams, and prize money etc, or whatever else you want to fund.

Canada 15-10 up in the Trophy qualifier.


Italy has hosted twice so far, once in Veneto (2011) which according to wikipedia saw very variable crowds from a few hundred to 10k at the final, and once in Lombardy/Emilia-Romagna, where attendances are not listed.

Funnily enough Ireland has never hosted it before, if they were interested it would have been a pretty fair shout for them to host as most of the other 12 regulars have done it once. Australia and Scotland are the others not to have hosted in its current format.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 21:25

Argies are hosting 2019

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby dropkick » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 23:49

thatrugbyguy wrote:I do wonder what’s going to happen if Ireland get relegated.



Nothing should happen and nothing will happen I'd say. I don't think Ireland are important enough to influence any changes.


I think they'll lose to Japan. If Japan has a have decent attack they're guaranteed 3 or 4 tries because this Irish team is unfit and literally half the pack have played nearly every minute which is extremely poor and bizarre player management.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby victorsra » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 23:57

I don't know if it was already discussed in the forum but saw now that USA Rugby confirmes that the 2018 WR U20s Trophy will in Romania: https://www.usarugby.org/2018/06/mens-j ... qualifier/ From August 24th

However, I haven't seen World Rugby or FRR anoucing this yet...
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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby BigG » Thu, 14 Jun 2018, 18:39

dropkick wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:I do wonder what’s going to happen if Ireland get relegated.



Nothing should happen and nothing will happen I'd say. I don't think Ireland are important enough to influence any changes.


I think they'll lose to Japan. If Japan has a have decent attack they're guaranteed 3 or 4 tries because this Irish team is unfit and literally half the pack have played nearly every minute which is extremely poor and bizarre player management.


I am sure Ireland is strong enough to defeat Japan.
Japan came to the tournament with the main goal to take over Georgia and to get a place in U20 elite. They were close to do that. I doubt they still have physical and mental capacities to perform as well as with Georgia.
Expect an easy win from Irish side.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby fullbackace » Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 01:31

BigG wrote:
dropkick wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:I do wonder what’s going to happen if Ireland get relegated.



Nothing should happen and nothing will happen I'd say. I don't think Ireland are important enough to influence any changes.


I think they'll lose to Japan. If Japan has a have decent attack they're guaranteed 3 or 4 tries because this Irish team is unfit and literally half the pack have played nearly every minute which is extremely poor and bizarre player management.


I am sure Ireland is strong enough to defeat Japan.
Japan came to the tournament with the main goal to take over Georgia and to get a place in U20 elite. They were close to do that. I doubt they still have physical and mental capacities to perform as well as with Georgia.
Expect an easy win from Irish side.

I don't know. I watched Ireland vs Scotland and greens were in dire straits. I think it will be more or less even but Ireland should win it.

Also Japan did very well against Wales, I don't think they came here with sole purpose to beat Georgia, that would be silly.
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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby dropkick » Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 19:56

fullbackace wrote:
BigG wrote:I am sure Ireland is strong enough to defeat Japan.
Japan came to the tournament with the main goal to take over Georgia and to get a place in U20 elite. They were close to do that. I doubt they still have physical and mental capacities to perform as well as with Georgia.
Expect an easy win from Irish side.

I don't know. I watched Ireland vs Scotland and greens were in dire straits. I think it will be more or less even but Ireland should win it.

Also Japan did very well against Wales, I don't think they came here with sole purpose to beat Georgia, that would be silly.



I think the Irish coaches will be having a few sleepless nights. :oops:

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby dropkick » Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 19:58

Dan Brennan gave an interview. This was an interesting piece about the French training.

“They take all of the best guys from these schools and bring them to Paris. That was for a year. That was a tough year because you left at 4am on the Monday on the plane, you flew to Paris, you train all week, you flew on the Friday at around 3pm and played on the weekend. That was all year. I was 16.”

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby armchair_expert » Sun, 17 Jun 2018, 09:09

why do they keep putting an 11/12 play-off at a secondary venue? surely a relegation play-off is more important than a 5/6 play-off and deserves a better exposure on a Championship Final stadium

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby amz » Sun, 17 Jun 2018, 10:31

Cmon Japan!

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby GeoRugby » Sun, 17 Jun 2018, 13:24

Georgia U20 beat Scotland U20 39-31 to claim 9th place. That's the team they are keeping away from U20 6N. Disgraceful. Great job from Georgian youngsters.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Sun, 17 Jun 2018, 13:25

Scotland 31 - 39 Georgia

Yeah baby... dont stop...

Abzhandadze! What a player...
Marjanishvili scored twice.
Japaridze and Nutsubidze destroyed Scottish scrum.
Kharaishvili!!

We have very good 2000th born backs who will play until 2020 for Georgia U20...

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby GeoRugby » Sun, 17 Jun 2018, 13:41

Abjandadze should seriously be considered for the team of the tournament. Guy is just out of this world. His kicking today was brilliant.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby zgs » Sun, 17 Jun 2018, 13:46

Ireland vs Japan and Scotland vs Georgia matches were awesome!
I will miss Japan! But Ireland was better team.
I think that score did not show real advantage of Georgians.
Good job guys! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :D :D :D :D
Jalagonia and Abjandadze were as always brilliant!

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby GeoRugby » Sun, 17 Jun 2018, 13:57

It's not just about Georgia winning. They are playing just like a tier 1 nation. They leave this tournament with 3 wins and 2 losses. In 5 games they scored 17 tries I believe. Will U20 6N finally wake up and realize that Georgia deserves a place there or are they going to run away again.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby JLJordaan » Sun, 17 Jun 2018, 14:19

GeoRugby wrote:Georgia U20 beat Scotland U20 39-31 to claim 9th place. That's the team they are keeping away from U20 6N. Disgraceful. Great job from Georgian youngsters.


It is disgraceful indeed! This Georgian team almost got a win against the Junior Boks and defeated two 6N teams and yet can't get regular competition against the best in Europe. It is so sad that it is all about the money to them and not about actually developing the game, cause you guys genuinely deserve to be there.

Keep on doing your thing Georgia, you are giving the T1 nations immense headaches :thumbup:

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby BigG » Sun, 17 Jun 2018, 17:18

Talking about Georgia joining 6Ns we should bear in mind following.
Religious sect known as Six Nations does not care about rugby.
Do not even think about Georgia U20 becoming its part.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby Scoob » Sun, 17 Jun 2018, 17:31

Like Jaiani quote at end of the game,We beat 2 six nations teams,lets hope something good comes of this.
Hope Jalaghonia injured knee is not a serious injury.

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