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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby datodato » Tue, 12 Jun 2018, 19:34

Only positive from that game is the huge amount of physical Fitness. First time i saw a Georgian team win in the last 10. they defended literally for month now - SA, Counties, U20 WC and the first half today. Everyone knows how hard it is to defend forever. Need strong fitness. Cudos to the s&c guys and coaches. Other than that as you said - they fucked up royaly or in other words they pulled the Georgian today. Still glad to have that win, first time we have two wins. And look out for the Tongan wingers! They might very soon end up in Romania!

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Tue, 12 Jun 2018, 20:48

France beat New Zealand 16-7. What a team they have.

England vs France is final...

France is favorite in the final, they are outstanding this year and the tournament is in France, so home advantage is their.

Good job France!

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby efti » Tue, 12 Jun 2018, 20:53

Abzhandadze Should come to Timișoara. He’ll play profesional and in the Challange Cup.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby efti » Tue, 12 Jun 2018, 20:59

Amazing play by France. After Champagne rugby against SA they starved NZ for Ball for 70 mins. I’m curious if they have strength for 3 very hard games - SA, NZ and Eng - in a week. It would be a pity not to go all the way.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby fullbackace » Tue, 12 Jun 2018, 21:19

efti wrote:Amazing play by France. After Champagne rugby against SA they starved NZ for Ball for 70 mins. I’m curious if they have strength for 3 very hard games - SA, NZ and Eng - in a week. It would be a pity not to go all the way.

It's not like England had a walk in the park. But still it's hard not to cheer for this French team. Many future stars methinks.
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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby efti » Tue, 12 Jun 2018, 21:30

England had only the semifinal as a competitive game in the WCup

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby MikeN » Tue, 12 Jun 2018, 23:50

datodato wrote:To quote planetrugby.com:

"World Rugby has announced that France will host the U20 Championship in 2018 with matches being played in Béziers, Perpignan and Narbonne.
The five match days will take place on 30 May, 3 June, 7 June, 12 June and 17 June.
The tournament features three pools of four teams, with the pool winners and the best runner-up progressing to the semi-finals.

Pool A: New Zealand, Australia, Wales, Japan
Pool B: England, Scotland, Italy, Argentina
Pool C: South Africa, France, Ireland, Georgia

Pool matches will be played Stade Aimé Giral in Perpignan, Stade de la Méditerranée in Béziers and the Stade d’Honneur du Parc des Sports et de l'Amitié in Narbonne. The semi-final and final venues will be announced in due course."

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/france- ... mpionship/


Why are there only 12 teams in the comp? Surely they could rustle up another 4.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby Blurandski » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 00:01

MikeN wrote:
datodato wrote:To quote planetrugby.com:

"World Rugby has announced that France will host the U20 Championship in 2018 with matches being played in Béziers, Perpignan and Narbonne.
The five match days will take place on 30 May, 3 June, 7 June, 12 June and 17 June.
The tournament features three pools of four teams, with the pool winners and the best runner-up progressing to the semi-finals.

Pool A: New Zealand, Australia, Wales, Japan
Pool B: England, Scotland, Italy, Argentina
Pool C: South Africa, France, Ireland, Georgia

Pool matches will be played Stade Aimé Giral in Perpignan, Stade de la Méditerranée in Béziers and the Stade d’Honneur du Parc des Sports et de l'Amitié in Narbonne. The semi-final and final venues will be announced in due course."

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/france- ... mpionship/


Why are there only 12 teams in the comp? Surely they could rustle up another 4.


It was 16 back in 2008 & 2009, was reduced to cut costs, but probably will expand soon (with the Trophy staying as 8). If Ireland lose vs Japan then the odds of it being expanded to 16 next year is somewhere between 95% and 100% imo. If not, Ireland would be forced to participate in the RE U20s (which WR may actually like...)

Teams for this year's trophy are: Uruguay, Portugal, Fiji, Namibia, Samoa, Hong Kong, and the winner of Canada vs US, which has just started. Looking at how teams have performed in the past, the additional four teams for next year's championship (if expanded) would probably be Samoa, Portugal, Uruguay & Fiji.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby MikeN » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 00:20

Brilliant, thanks, sounds good.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby carbonero » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 00:31

Blurandski wrote: If not, Ireland would be forced to participate in the RE U20s (which WR may actually like...)

No, the relegated team goes directly to the Trophy.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby Blurandski » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 00:33

carbonero wrote:
Blurandski wrote: If not, Ireland would be forced to participate in the RE U20s (which WR may actually like...)

No, the relegated team goes directly to the Trophy.


Ah, I knew that I forgot something.

Canada up 8-3 towards the end of the first half.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby zgs » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 00:36

Oliver wrote: Ireland will never go to Trophy. The tournament would be expanded few days later if Ireland is relegated...
Blurandski wrote: If Ireland lose vs Japan then the odds of it being expanded to 16 next year is somewhere between 95% and 100% imo.

I have the same feeling, and that’s why badly want Japans win. Competition of 3 groups with 12 teams is very strange and just stupid. :shock:

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby Blurandski » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 00:54

zgs wrote:Oliver wrote: Ireland will never go to Trophy. The tournament would be expanded few days later if Ireland is relegated...
Blurandski wrote: If Ireland lose vs Japan then the odds of it being expanded to 16 next year is somewhere between 95% and 100% imo.

I have the same feeling, and that’s why badly want Japans win. Competition of 3 groups with 12 teams is very strange and just stupid. :shock:


Yup, it makes a lot of sense to expand it back up again. I wonder who'll host it next year, given that this year's event has been massively successful in terms of tickets sold by placing it in a rugby-mad area of France, starved of top tier rugby, whereas the 2016 version was hosted in Manchester, and the final couldn't sell out the AJ Bell, due to Manchester being one of the less strong RU areas. Hosting it in the West Country (Sandy Park, Bath, Kingsholm for example), or Munster, the Venice area, the Eastern Cape etc could all be similarly successful. If they can get the competition to pay for itself, then it frees up a lot of money to fund either a slightly expanded trophy (say 12 teams from 8) and a proper Continental Shield with twice as many teams, and prize money etc, or whatever else you want to fund.

Canada 15-10 up in the Trophy qualifier.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby carbonero » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 01:10

Rosario/Santa Fe will host the tournament next year. So forget about breaking even. If they get 10% of France's crowds, it would be considered a success.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby Blurandski » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 01:25

carbonero wrote:Rosario/Santa Fe will host the tournament next year. So forget about breaking even. If they get 10% of France's crowds, it would be considered a success.


That's annoying, hopefully going forwards they'll put it out to tender like the RWC, where each bidding country offers a certain amount as a hosting fee, but gets to keep ticket sales, then WR can choose the best bid (factoring in things like growing the game etc). However Argentina is starved of major rugby tournaments, so it's good to see them have something.

Canada 41-17 up, USA lock has got a red card. Looks like Canada will be going to the trophy. Since 2011 the USA has made 5 appearances (including one in the championship), Canada has made 7 (including this year), only missing out once.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby carbonero » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 01:32

Blurandski wrote:That's annoying, hopefully going forwards they'll put it out to tender like the RWC, where each bidding country offers a certain amount as a hosting fee, but gets to keep ticket sales, then WR can choose the best bid (factoring in things like growing the game etc). However Argentina is starved of major rugby tournaments, so it's good to see them have something.

Hosting fee? So England or France then?

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby Blurandski » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 01:53

carbonero wrote:
Blurandski wrote:That's annoying, hopefully going forwards they'll put it out to tender like the RWC, where each bidding country offers a certain amount as a hosting fee, but gets to keep ticket sales, then WR can choose the best bid (factoring in things like growing the game etc). However Argentina is starved of major rugby tournaments, so it's good to see them have something.

Hosting fee? So England or France then?


Something nominal, a few tens of thousands, that way the host union is invested in actually shifting tickets and creating attention. I did mention that the hosting fee would not be the primary cost, and the WR body making the decision should consider other aspects. If almost no-one knows that an event is happening somewhere (see Manchester 2016, Georgia 2017), what is the point of hosting it there at all? That £20,000 can then pay for some travel for the continental shield, or the new SA pro league.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby Scoob » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 04:35

That was some game Georgia Japan. I watched it in NZL at 4.30 in morning before work.Lots of fist pumping at full time.
Abzhandadze and Aprasidze were amazing.The whole team had special moments,Lomidze and Tapladze will be back for next 2 world cups which is exciting as both had very good games.I thought Georgia had the better backs and were dominant up front.The Tongan wingers were Japans only go forward option and once Georgia could control them they had the best of the game.Some of the forwards were pretty tired but the bench did a great job.
Credit to every squad member you made the rugby world sit up and take notice.
There might be wholesale changes for next game Alania,Dvalishvili,Marjanishvili,Azariashvili,Gelashvili etc should get a start.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby Bogdan_DC » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 06:08

Never seen a NZ U20 team dominated so badly for 70 minutes. It is fair to say that in the last 10 minutes France panicked and if NZ scored on that big occasion after their try, things could turn very bad for France. Some French guys were huge and Jordan Joseph, no 8 from France , is only 17?!Imagine this guy playing in a U18 team...

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby mihaic » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 06:35

According to Wikipedia, 2018 U20 Trophy will be organized in Romania:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Worl ... _20_Trophy.

Is this a joke?

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby Bogdan_DC » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 06:38

mihaic wrote:According to Wikipedia, 2018 U20 Trophy will be organized in Romania:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Worl ... _20_Trophy.

Is this a joke?

Nope

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby amz » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 07:06

mihaic wrote:According to Wikipedia, 2018 U20 Trophy will be organized in Romania:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Worl ... _20_Trophy.

Is this a joke?


why would be a joke? last year was in Uruguay, I think we have better infrastructure anyway

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby BigG » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 08:44

amz wrote:You were lucky because Japan didn't had a bench ;)


Talking about Japan it would correct to mention that they have four or five naturalized Islanders? By the way do anybody else know what are naturalization rules for juniors teams (e.g. U20)?

Georgia was not prepared mentally for this game. They expected to have an easy win.
Good that the team overcome subjective and objective difficulties (including very unskillful refereeing) and got the win.

Hope our team still have enough physical ability to take over Scotland.

Japan winning in the last game? Forget about that.

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 10:22

By the way do anybody else know what are naturalization rules for juniors teams (e.g. U20)?

As Aussies use to say, their RULES (AFL Game) is good 'cause there are NO RULES

Ditto for U20

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Re: U20 Championship 2018

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 11:21

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:
By the way do anybody else know what are naturalization rules for juniors teams (e.g. U20)?

As Aussies use to say, their RULES (AFL Game) is good 'cause there are NO RULES

Ditto for U20


This might lead to funny cases, that somebody plays for the U20 and then isn't allowed to play for the senior national team for, let's say, 4 years. Or is this another loop-hole? 8-)
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