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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 19:23

If you want to effectively commercialize Rugby in this country, having a tournament during the height of Football season against no-name opponents is not how you do it. Now, should we ever leave the ARC and join the Rugby Championship a home match against the ABs every year could help break that commercial barrier.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby victorsra » Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 19:26

With a 21-weekends MLR there is no other moment in the year left, sorry. Nothing to do.
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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby 4N » Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 19:31

TheStroBro wrote:If you want to effectively commercialize Rugby in this country, having a tournament during the height of Football season against no-name opponents is not how you do it. Now, should we ever leave the ARC and join the Rugby Championship a home match against the ABs every year could help break that commercial barrier.


That’s the problem when you have people who don’t understand local markets making proposals and even decisions. ARC attendances in the US would nosedive.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby victorsra » Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 19:40

The only other possibilty would be keeping ARC the way it is and starting MLR in late march. This would mean regular season in June and playoffs only in August, becasue there would be Eagles matches in July. Choose.
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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Tobar » Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 20:46

4N wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:If you want to effectively commercialize Rugby in this country, having a tournament during the height of Football season against no-name opponents is not how you do it. Now, should we ever leave the ARC and join the Rugby Championship a home match against the ABs every year could help break that commercial barrier.


That’s the problem when you have people who don’t understand local markets making proposals and even decisions. ARC attendances in the US would nosedive.


Nosedive from current attendances of 800 lol

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby 4N » Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 21:05

There have been a few decent ARC crowds, some in the high four figures. But yeah closer to 1-2k is what they would likely be looking at if it moves.

Also August-September falls during soccer and baseball seasons, meaning fewer available venues. Seems like no one really thought this through from a US perspective.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby iul » Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 21:20

4N wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:If you want to effectively commercialize Rugby in this country, having a tournament during the height of Football season against no-name opponents is not how you do it. Now, should we ever leave the ARC and join the Rugby Championship a home match against the ABs every year could help break that commercial barrier.


That’s the problem when you have people who don’t understand local markets making proposals and even decisions. ARC attendances in the US would nosedive.

Couldn't they host the games in places where there are no NFL teams? There are whole states that have no team, surely there are not that many people going to another state to watch live.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby 4N » Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 21:22

And with respect iul that’s a great example of someone not understanding the US market. College football draws far more fans than the NFL and is more popular in most of the country.

Plus you will have venue issues with soccer and baseball still in season like I said. It’s just a bad idea.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 21:29

Tobar wrote:
4N wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:If you want to effectively commercialize Rugby in this country, having a tournament during the height of Football season against no-name opponents is not how you do it. Now, should we ever leave the ARC and join the Rugby Championship a home match against the ABs every year could help break that commercial barrier.


That’s the problem when you have people who don’t understand local markets making proposals and even decisions. ARC attendances in the US would nosedive.


Nosedive from current attendances of 800 lol

Austin [Round Rock] has had over 6k each time, although it looked horrible because Stubhub is a 28k stadium there were still 6500 people show. Everything else has been a miss though.

iul wrote:Couldn't they host the games in places where there are no NFL teams? There are whole states that have no team, surely there are not that many people going to another state to watch live.


Rugby is so small that I'd say 50% of each test crowd is from out of state.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby jonny24 » Wed, 23 Jan 2019, 14:15

Plus even if they're not travelling, there tons of people who wouldn't leave the house / bar if the All Black's were playing live across the street, they'll be watching their team on TV.
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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Grayday88 » Sun, 27 Jan 2019, 14:15

Encouraging first day crowd wise for MLR 19 both NOLA and Austin with higher attendances than they managed last year

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Sun, 27 Jan 2019, 18:27

iul wrote:
4N wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:If you want to effectively commercialize Rugby in this country, having a tournament during the height of Football season against no-name opponents is not how you do it. Now, should we ever leave the ARC and join the Rugby Championship a home match against the ABs every year could help break that commercial barrier.


That’s the problem when you have people who don’t understand local markets making proposals and even decisions. ARC attendances in the US would nosedive.

Couldn't they host the games in places where there are no NFL teams? There are whole states that have no team, surely there are not that many people going to another state to watch live.


College Football my dude, draws as much if not more per game.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Sun, 27 Jan 2019, 18:31

welshdragon2000 wrote:Seattle Seawolves game vs Glendale is sold out according to their twitter. They then say in the tweet that there is limited standing available so I guess they’re not sold out... either way, it’s good to see them sell out early on and for the crowds to pick up from where they left off last year.
I see they charge $20-$30 for tickets (which they’ve ‘sold out’ of) so they’ll be doing very well financially and could probably increase their ticket prices if they wanted to for some of the bigger games.


I'd imagine they sold out all the seats, and have now gotten permission from the venue to have standing seats, which are not common in North America.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Mon, 28 Jan 2019, 01:39

ruckovercdn wrote:
welshdragon2000 wrote:Seattle Seawolves game vs Glendale is sold out according to their twitter. They then say in the tweet that there is limited standing available so I guess they’re not sold out... either way, it’s good to see them sell out early on and for the crowds to pick up from where they left off last year.
I see they charge $20-$30 for tickets (which they’ve ‘sold out’ of) so they’ll be doing very well financially and could probably increase their ticket prices if they wanted to for some of the bigger games.


I'd imagine they sold out all the seats, and have now gotten permission from the venue to have standing seats, which are not common in North America.


Standing Room Only seats are pretty common depending on the sport and especially for things like the Super Bowl. They sold around 300 SRO tickets per match last season. Starfire's seating capacity is 3500. Increasing prices will only get you so far, what they need is a larger venue.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Mon, 28 Jan 2019, 02:38

I mean really 3500 a game is well above the average of the Greenking IPA Championship. That's not bad at all frankly.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 28 Jan 2019, 09:54

Seriously, would it kill the folks at Seattle to temporarily paint over the soccer line? You can't see the rugby markings.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby dwpeate » Mon, 28 Jan 2019, 14:09

Total 10 points winning margin across the first 4 games. Gritty!!

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby thatrugbyguy » Fri, 08 Feb 2019, 13:36

Washington to be officially called Old Glory RFC. I like it.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Tobar » Fri, 08 Feb 2019, 14:06

A lot of people don’t like it and think it’s a stupid name. I like it. I also like that I can call them the Glory Holes if I want.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 08 Feb 2019, 14:17

So only Atlanta doesn't have a name?

Does Life has anything to do with it?
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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Fri, 08 Feb 2019, 15:04

victorsra wrote:So only Atlanta doesn't have a name?

Does Life has anything to do with it?


Just market research man. However, having spoken to the DOR, when they announce their full brand suite they have a pretty high marketing budget for this year to create brand awareness within Atlanta and throughout the Southeast. Although they've begun recruitment and talent ID for the 2020 season they will not be fielding an exhibition side.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby snapper37 » Fri, 08 Feb 2019, 22:51

Any chat about Vancouver getting their act together and starting the ground work required to be accepted.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby LittleGuy » Sat, 09 Feb 2019, 01:09

Very small crowd at the Austin-Toronto game, unless EVERYONE is on the hard camera side.

Edit: Basically seen the whole panaroma now, just very small gathering, weather can't help only 2 C at kickoff.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Sat, 09 Feb 2019, 01:28

LittleGuy wrote:Very small crowd at the Austin-Toronto game, unless EVERYONE is on the hard camera side.


Gotta be the team most likely to fold. Just about every crowd has been like this. They're clearly trying based on the fan feedback letters and changes they've made to the gameday experience but whatever they are doing just isn't working. It probably doesn't help that their team isn't very good, either.

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Re: Major League Rugby

Postby LittleGuy » Sat, 09 Feb 2019, 02:41

Coloradoan wrote:
LittleGuy wrote:Very small crowd at the Austin-Toronto game, unless EVERYONE is on the hard camera side.


Gotta be the team most likely to fold. Just about every crowd has been like this. They're clearly trying based on the fan feedback letters and changes they've made to the gameday experience but whatever they are doing just isn't working. It probably doesn't help that their team isn't very good, either.



I was thinking the same, a few people are hanging out in the concourse not in the seats but there can't be more than 250 fans there TOPS, probably more like 150-200. The baseball diamond is a very awkward place to watch rugby, the weather is terrible etc. but surely they should be doing better than this.

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