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2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 06 Jan 2018, 15:29

My Preview of the USA Training Squad as posted in the USA thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1m0Ke9EnKw

I may do Canada...if it gets named soon.

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https://www.usarugby.org/2018/01/mens-e ... mkuL6uO.07

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby NaBUru38 » Mon, 08 Jan 2018, 17:57

I expect Uruguay to repeat the 2016 results: wins over Brazil, Chile and United States, and losses to Canada and Argentina.

We have a better chance to win away versus Canada, whereas Brazil will be stronger at home.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby victorsra » Mon, 08 Jan 2018, 19:04

I bet Uruguay will rest players against Brazil. It is just after 2 tough matches against Canada, travelling long hours...
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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Canadaman » Mon, 08 Jan 2018, 20:23

Canada hasn't named their squad yet because they have no idea who it is. We have a shit load of injuries and forced retirements, won't be surprised if Uruguay beats us actually.

Injury list, that I can remember:

Evans
O'Leary
Paris
carpenter - retired
Beukeboom
Trainor
Hearn
Coe

Some will be back for Uruguay, but won't have any game time to get their fitness back.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Mon, 08 Jan 2018, 20:36

Canadaman wrote:Canada hasn't named their squad yet because they have no idea who it is. We have a shit load of injuries and forced retirements, won't be surprised if Uruguay beats us actually.

Injury list, that I can remember:

Evans
O'Leary
Paris
carpenter - retired
Beukeboom
Trainor
Hearn
Coe

Some will be back for Uruguay, but won't have any game time to get their fitness back.


Bring back Admir and Mooner!

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Fri, 12 Jan 2018, 18:19

Canada and Uruguay's WC Qualifiers Squads, for the most part these will be the same squads through the rest of the ARC. A bit less so for CAN:

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http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2018/0 ... ualifiers/

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http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2018/0 ... er-canada/

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Tobar » Fri, 12 Jan 2018, 19:30

NaBUru38 wrote:I expect Uruguay to repeat the 2016 results: wins over Brazil, Chile and United States, and losses to Canada and Argentina.

We have a better chance to win away versus Canada, whereas Brazil will be stronger at home.


A win against the US and loss against Canada, interesting.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby rusty_lock » Fri, 12 Jan 2018, 19:43

Tobar wrote:
NaBUru38 wrote:I expect Uruguay to repeat the 2016 results: wins over Brazil, Chile and United States, and losses to Canada and Argentina.

We have a better chance to win away versus Canada, whereas Brazil will be stronger at home.


A win against the US and loss against Canada, interesting.


I saw that and really wondered too. I assume he feels that the USA is fielding a weaker side for ARC than the home and away Uruguay will play against Canada. For the Canada the stakes are higher and they will be fielding the strongest side they can whereas the USA side will not include all available professionals.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Fri, 12 Jan 2018, 20:19

To be honest, our program is not where it was post WC. There's a lot more organization and the players have a lot of ownership. This will be as strong a squad as we can field. And the coaching systems won't be a lot different. I expect to take Uruguay to the wood chipper.
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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Tobar » Fri, 12 Jan 2018, 20:21

rusty_lock wrote:
Tobar wrote:
NaBUru38 wrote:I expect Uruguay to repeat the 2016 results: wins over Brazil, Chile and United States, and losses to Canada and Argentina.

We have a better chance to win away versus Canada, whereas Brazil will be stronger at home.


A win against the US and loss against Canada, interesting.


I saw that and really wondered too. I assume he feels that the USA is fielding a weaker side for ARC than the home and away Uruguay will play against Canada. For the Canada the stakes are higher and they will be fielding the strongest side they can whereas the USA side will not include all available professionals.


That's possible, but I am a big fan of the ARC roster for the US. I understand there are pros that won't be available by the Uruguay match but I am still a fan of the rest of them. The core is a group of players that were there last year but there are some newer faces with more experience. It was a close match last year so it's not like we blew them out, it's just interesting.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Coloradoan » Fri, 12 Jan 2018, 23:40

TheStroBro wrote:To be honest, our program is where it was post WC. There's a lot more organization and the players have a lot of ownership. This will be as strong a squad as we can field. And the coaching systems won't be a lot different. I expect to take Uruguay to the wood chipper.


I wouldn't expect that at all. Let's see who is available for that match first. Playing in Montevideo is a much different proposition than playing at home and this Uruguay team is probably as strong as it's ever been in modern times.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Tobar » Sat, 13 Jan 2018, 05:33

I have faith in the the Eagles but I’m not expecting a blowout. We only won by a tryast year and Uruguay will come with a prepared squad considering their training for Canada.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 13 Jan 2018, 16:34

Our last match is against Uruguay and this will give the squad a chance to gel. What I really wonder though is how many of Canada's pros will remain for the 2nd round of the ARC when they come down to Papa Murphy's in Sacramento.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 14 Jan 2018, 05:10


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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby NaBUru38 » Mon, 15 Jan 2018, 16:33

Tobar wrote:
NaBUru38 wrote:I expect Uruguay to repeat the 2016 results: wins over Brazil, Chile and United States, and losses to Canada and Argentina.


A win against the US and loss against Canada, interesting.


rusty_lock wrote: I assume he feels that the USA is fielding a weaker side for ARC than the home and away Uruguay will play against Canada.

For the Canada the stakes are higher and they will be fielding the strongest side they can whereas the USA side will not include all available professionals.


Yes but no.

Coloradoan wrote: Playing in Montevideo is a much different proposition than playing at home


Exactly.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Mon, 15 Jan 2018, 17:14

NaBUru38 wrote:
Coloradoan wrote: Playing in Montevideo is a much different proposition than playing at home


Exactly.


How many of your pros do you think will remain after the Canada series?

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby NaBUru38 » Tue, 16 Jan 2018, 14:13

None.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Tobar » Tue, 16 Jan 2018, 19:33

NaBUru38 wrote:None.


I think that changes quite a lot of the expectations then

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Buffalo » Thu, 25 Jan 2018, 04:14

https://www.tsn.ca/international-rugby- ... o-1.771522

TSN broadcasting schedule for the Qualifiers and ARC. Glad to see them actually showcasing stuff on TV this year instead of sticking everything on TSNGo. Hopefully people actually tune in and show them there's a market for the sport in Canada.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 27 Jan 2018, 01:45

WHO LIKES HOUR LONG PREVIEWS? YES YOU DO!

https://youtu.be/MfxeqrBbr_E

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby carbonero » Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 19:38

Argentina XV travel squad:

Image

Last Saturday they lost 12-31 against Jaguares:



Encouraging stuff from Argentina XV considering they lost the same fixture 14-68 in 2017. They even push them around in the first couple of scrums. Jaguares dominated the set-piece from then on. Both squads are changing their technique for the new season. The locks are binding around the prop's hip rather than between their legs. Old School.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby victorsra » Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 21:30

Brazilian squad - 26 names:

Forwards: Yan Rosetti (CUBA, Argentina), Jardel Vetoratto (Farrapos), Lucas Abud (Poli), Matheus "Blade" da Rocha (Jacareí), Michel "Vanzinha" Gomes (São José), Wilton "Nelson" Rebolo (Band Saracens), Diego Lopez (Pasteur), Gabriel Paganini (Band Saracens), Lucas Piero "Bruxinho" (Desterro), André "Buda" de Arruda (Desterro), Angelo Marcucci (Farrapos), Arthur Bergo (SPAC), Cléber "Gelado" Dias (Poli), Matheus "Matias" Daniel (Jacareí), Michael "Ilha" de Moraes (Curitiba);

Backs: William Broderick (Band Saracens), Laurent Bouda-Couhet (Band Saracens), Leonardo Ceccarelli (Jacareí), Moisés Duque (São José), Joshua Reeves (Band Saracens), Lucas Tranquez "Zé" (SPAC), Felipe Sancery (São José), Jacobus De Wet Van Niekerk (Poli), Ariel Rodrigues (Jacareí), Lucas Muller (Desterro), Robert Tenorio (Pasteur);

Won't play against Chile, but can appear in other matches: Daniel Sancery, Lucas Duque, Stefano Giantorno, Matheus Cruz, João Luiz da Ros...

Nick Smith is out, he's moved to England. Luiz Vieira, that plays in France, won't come to the ARC.

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby victorsra » Tue, 30 Jan 2018, 00:48

Note: 5 players born abroad.

Will Broderick - England
Josh Reeves - New Zealand
De Wet van Niekerk - South Africa
Laurent Bourda-Couhet - France
Angelo Marcucci - Argentina
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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby SallesNeto_BR » Tue, 30 Jan 2018, 05:14

The absence of Daniel Sancery, Lucas Duque and Stefano Giantorno is very worrisome... :( Are they injured?

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Re: 2018 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby victorsra » Tue, 30 Jan 2018, 17:11

Daniel is injured. Stefano is just an option, while Lucas is not totaly fit now.
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