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ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby victorsra » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 15:55

Pretty awesome location Ushuaia
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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby 4N » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 16:02

Yeah the backdrops during the match are stunning.

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby argie » Fri, 09 Feb 2018, 00:39

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby victorsra » Sat, 10 Feb 2018, 20:50

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby 4N » Sat, 10 Feb 2018, 21:05

Chile hanging in there, pushing for a try but didn't get it. 10-0 home team after 20 minutes.

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby ruckovercdn » Sat, 10 Feb 2018, 21:22

24 - 5 Argentina XV at the half.

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby 4N » Sat, 10 Feb 2018, 21:24

Chile were doing pretty well until their YC. Their players are very skinny though, more so than the other ARC nations. Leads to them getting monstered and driven back in contact at times.

What a setting for a test match though. If possible, Chile should host Argentina in nearby Punta Arenas at some point.

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby Bolaroid » Sat, 10 Feb 2018, 22:10

Chile are the Italy of the ARC :|

What's the story on promotion/relegation, is it possible Paraguay could replace them? (apologies to any Chilean readers)

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby 4N » Sat, 10 Feb 2018, 22:13

I'm more keen to see Colombia get a crack tbh. More potential, developed a kid that went pro in France recently. Paraguay are pretty much who they have ways been rugby-wise.

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 10 Feb 2018, 22:18

Bolaroid wrote:Chile are the Italy of the ARC :|

What's the story on promotion/relegation, is it possible Paraguay could replace them? (apologies to any Chilean readers)


This is the first year of ARC "B" and it is taking place in August. They will explore promotion and relegation in the future. However, the current RAN Champions for Seniors and U19 are the USA South Panthers. So that shows you where T3 Rugby is up here.

ARC B this August is supposed to be: Mexico and Trinidad&Tobago for RAN, Colombia and Paraguay for SAR.

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 10 Feb 2018, 23:20

Yeah, Chilean players need to gain more size and muscle. They’re too small.

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby victorsra » Sat, 10 Feb 2018, 23:52

What's the story on promotion/relegation, is it possible Paraguay could replace them? (apologies to any Chilean readers)


The 6 current nations have a 5 years contract to play the tournament. This means 2019 and 2020 will have the same teams. A Relegation-playoff (I believe it woudn't be direct relegation) would start in 2020. This means no Paraguay, Colombia or Mexico until at least 2021.

The Americas Challenge will be the second division and it is set to start in 2018.
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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby cien_almas » Sun, 11 Feb 2018, 01:07

victorsra wrote:
What's the story on promotion/relegation, is it possible Paraguay could replace them? (apologies to any Chilean readers)


The 6 current nations have a 5 years contract to play the tournament. This means 2019 and 2020 will have the same teams. A Relegation-playoff (I believe it woudn't be direct relegation) would start in 2020. This means no Paraguay, Colombia or Mexico until at least 2021.

The Americas Challenge will be the second division and it is set to start in 2018.


I think this entire ARC initiative is a great idea and will do lots to develop the game. Already I find myself more interested in the tournament than last year and think it will get better too.

Agreed that Chile is too small, but they did show some flashes and just couldn't keep up. I thought the 13 played well.

And what a location for a game. Beautiful views.

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby victorsra » Sun, 11 Feb 2018, 01:08

Chile was without Europe-based players and their sevens players. Remember this.
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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 11 Feb 2018, 05:28

victorsra wrote:
What's the story on promotion/relegation, is it possible Paraguay could replace them? (apologies to any Chilean readers)


The 6 current nations have a 5 years contract to play the tournament. This means 2019 and 2020 will have the same teams. A Relegation-playoff (I believe it woudn't be direct relegation) would start in 2020. This means no Paraguay, Colombia or Mexico until at least 2021.

The Americas Challenge will be the second division and it is set to start in 2018.

Could...

victorsra wrote:Chile was without Europe-based players and their sevens players. Remember this.


No, the the thing to remember is that they had a coach quit for the millionth time.

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby victorsra » Sun, 11 Feb 2018, 13:26

Also this. Many factors.
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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby 4N » Sun, 11 Feb 2018, 13:34

victorsra wrote:Chile was without Europe-based players and their sevens players. Remember this.


How many European pros do they have? Two?!

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 11 Feb 2018, 15:33

4N wrote:
victorsra wrote:Chile was without Europe-based players and their sevens players. Remember this.


How many European pros do they have? Two?!

They have 6 European Based players...but only two weren't released and they play for Bayonne.

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby victorsra » Sun, 11 Feb 2018, 15:40

Also they have a couple of players in USA. Bursic, Kalm... who else?

And their sevens squad, with players like Brangier, Velarde... they would be key players in the team. I don't understand why their sevens players are not involved, as Chile is not a World Sevens Series core team and the Hong Kong Sevens is only in april.

They also lost Nordenflycht, their 2017 top scorer (I don't know why).
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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby 4N » Sun, 11 Feb 2018, 15:53

Nordenflycht and Petrowitsch are definitely missed by this current Chilean team. Kalm has never played for Chile.

Who are the 4 other Euro pros? Do they play in Spain? Doesn't really count does it...

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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby victorsra » Sun, 11 Feb 2018, 15:58

But for a team like Chile these are heavy losses. 3 or 4 of those players missing against Brazil makes the difference.
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Re: ARC R2 - Argentina XV vs Chile - Feb 10th

Postby TheStroBro » Mon, 12 Feb 2018, 01:15

victorsra wrote:But for a team like Chile these are heavy losses. 3 or 4 of those players missing against Brazil makes the difference.

If we go by players abroad in the Condores Training Squad: Bursic (NOLA Gold) is in camp with Chile, started against Brazil. Vittorio Lastra (Italy), Anton Petrowitsch (Portugal), Francisco de la Fuente (Spain) and Franco Velarde (Spain) are all in camp. The two guys not in Chile currently are Pablo Huete and Ramon Ayarza, they play for Bayonne and were not released.

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