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2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 13:08

10/02/2018 - Kick-off 15:00 local time, 13:00 CET
Kuban Stadium, Krasnodar

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby STMKY » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 15:41

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 15:45

The game will be broadcast live by Spanish public TV, I can't even remember the last time they showed live a REC away game.

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby STMKY » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 15:57

And in Russia on TV, the game will be recorded ... Live will be a bobsled or biathlon. Kandelaki paid for our people money broadcast Winter Olympics, where went the team traitors under the white flag. 90% of the people were for the boycott, but these assholes from the Moscow liberal elite made Kuu in front of the WADA swindlers.
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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby BigG » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 16:00

The decisive game. No question about that.

Spaniards got new French players. However, I believe Russia has a chance.

By the way, do Russian bookies place the odds? Do you have info about that?

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 16:05

BigG wrote:Spaniards got new French players.

There are no new French players. Fuster is uncapped but came to old training camps and was expected to play in November before he fell injured.

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby STMKY » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 16:06

No, they only accept bets on Top tournaments. 6 Nations, Super Rugby ...

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby STMKY » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 17:45

Advertising of the match in the break of the Youth Champions League FC Krasnodar - Real Madrid (33000 spectators)
https://www.instagram.com/p/Be7spOPBdr2 ... ficial_rur

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 17:47

Almost a full page in MARCA today about French-born players
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http://www.marca.com/rugby/2018/02/08/5 ... b4579.html

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby victorsra » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 17:48

Which sort of attendance can we expect? How are Russians marketing this match? Any local TV showing it?
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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby STMKY » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 17:53

It's hard to say. Maybe 2-3 thousand, maybe 10 thousand. Really visible work of people Artemyev. For the first time such a loud campaign in the social networks. People post video clips in support of Bears! And other things, but Krasnodar is a historically a football city. I can not write here in literary words what fans of FC Kuban write about rugby at their stadium.

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby STMKY » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 17:57

All the same there will be a live broadcast, but only on the regional channel Kuban24
http://kuban24.tv/tv/

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 18:44

Kandelaki

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby vino_93 » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 20:31

Armchair Fan wrote:Almost a full page in MARCA today about French-born players
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http://www.marca.com/rugby/2018/02/08/5 ... b4579.html

What does it say ? :)

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 20:35

Tight-head Jesus MORENO # 23 :?:
Sad Joke :!: Which year do we live in :?:

Stems from here >> p 85
http://www.rugbyeurope.eu/sites/default ... 7-2018.pdf

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 20:37

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 08 Feb 2018, 21:10

vino_93 wrote:
Armchair Fan wrote:Almost a full page in MARCA today about French-born players
http://www.marca.com/rugby/2018/02/08/5 ... b4579.html

What does it say ? :)

Full translation under spoiler

Spoiler:
Los Leones de l'Espagne play for the World Cup
Rugby - Many of them are descendants of exiled people
This Saturday and next Sunday they play two crucial games against Russia and Romania

Los 'Leones' want to roar next year at Rugby World Cup and to do so they need to prove their value next Saturday in Krasnodar (Russia) and eight days later against Romania in Madrid. The challenge, as noted by national coach Santiago Santos, is big since Spanish rugby hasn't enjoyed such a championship for the last 20 years, at least speaking about men's team.

The first and only World Cup experience from Spanish national team dates back from 1999, when it played (and lost) three games against Uruguay (15-27), Scotland (0-48) and South Africa (3-47) in the tournament's four edition, co-hosted by UK, France and Ireland. Los Leones played these three games in Scottish lands.

Now they have again that chance at their reach, although the path won't be easy at all. "They are two very hard games because all three teams have a lot at stake. Moreover, stats say thay they are favourite, even though we've progressed in the latest years and we're each time closer, as we proved in our most recent games against Russia", Santos details.

"If we are able to win in Krasnodar, we would face the game against Romania with morale at sky levels, but winning in Russia is something we've almost never achieved. The advice in this case should be to act like Cholo Simeone and go game by game", adds the national coach.

Jaime Nava, the captain, shares the same opinion: "Romanians are very competitive and are a step above Russia. Krasnodar game will be extremely hard because Russia is a great team, very dynamic and tough, but I believe we're better. The goal is to deny them possession and avoid mistakes in defense. Against Romania the key will be on the physical battle, how to stop their forwards".

Santos, a tireless and methodic worker, knows how much Spain is playing for in these two games: "playing a World Cup gives you visibility ahead of fans, sponsors and media. And we would receive much more support from World Rugby, who gives huge subsidies for high performance results. And we would end up having a much better international schedule, hosting the best teams, so we could perform better in the long run".

Proud grandparents
That goal, to perform in the long run, is the big obsession in Spanish rugby, who hasn't spare efforts in the latests years. In fact, Spanish Rugby Union hasn't doubted about making the team go international with naturalisations (Argentina, NZ, Fiji...) although the most fruitful path was given by a tragedy: Spanish Civil War.

Most of actual Spanish rugby team are grandsons of exiled people who earned their lives in France. Santos explains it this way: "they give us a competitive plus because they face tougher leagues in a professional environment, while here we're still between amateurism and semipro. Without them we could never play a World Cup. In the long run I'm convinced it will benefit Spanish rugby. We're starting to export young players to France and if in 15 or 20 years we haven't got a strong league Spain that trend will be even increased, as it happens with basketball or handball".

A legit way but a risky one too. As we say, ¿"bread for today, hunger for tomorrow"? National coach defends the measure: "basketball in Spain began to evolve thanks to a national team involving players like Clifford Luyk and Wayne Brabender and we now export players to the NBA. They are players with big emotional ties to Spain, they feel it very close to their hearts and they are proud to play for the team of their grandparents. They've got Spanish blood in their veins and feels Spanish. In fact they parents often live this in a very intense way and lots of excitement".

The result is a team where French is almost more spoken than Spanish, but where there are no frictions. "Coexistence is excellent. I was even playing for six years in France until I came back in 2017. We're a true family", assures Nava.

Gibouin, almost a whole life among Leones
A paradigmatic case is the one from Gautier Gibouin Fontana, descendant of an exiled man from Irún. Gibouin speaks a fluid Spanish he didn't learn at home even though he received double citizenship when he was five years old. In 2007 he started to play for U18 Spanish national team and since then he's player for all 'Leones' youth teams and even for Sevens.

Eleven years later he feels as Spanish as anybody else (he admires Nadal's constancy and supports Spain in any sport) and defends his choice vehemently: "I'm very proud to play for the country of my grandfather. In this team we are a family. I've been playing with some of my teammates for ten years. It's clear there are some guys spending more time together due to language barriers, but everybody mixes when we eat or party".

Gibouin expects a bright future for our rugby: "We recently played Tonga and lost by not that much, while ten years we would have lost by 60, so we're in the good way even if there is a lot yet to do. Hopefully in ten more years we will reach the level to play (for the victory) that kind of games".

Nava shares the same opinion: "I'm more optimistic than ever about Spanish rugby future and my big dream, way beyond playing next World Cup, is to see Leones playing against the best teams in the world. That would mean that everything people like me is doing right now would have paid off".

The tough path of repechage
If Leones are able to win at least one of the games against Russia and Romania and then achieve the task in March against Germany and Belgium, they would secure at least world repechage, that would start by a home play-off game against Portugal. Then, if they win, they should beat no less than Samoa in a home-and-away play-off. In case of defeat, there would still a last chance in a round robin tournament where they should be above Canada (the hardest rival), possibly Hong Kong and a team from Africa (Kenya or Zimbabwe). It would take place in Japan.


FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:Tight-head Jesus MORENO # 23 :?:
Sad Joke :!: Which year do we live in :?:

He's a very funny man that keeps banting Sevens players every time he can, I wouldn't discard he proposed it.

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby Zhenya_Zima » Fri, 09 Feb 2018, 00:57

This team is better than any team not at the RWC by some considerable margin.
Is it better than a team who will be in it? While we are playing in the off-season? I don't know.
Denis would be nice, but the VVA 7s guys are gamebreakers, too.
Bitiev on the bench would be a change, but if Zykov's fit for 80, no issue.
I'd take Krotov over Temnov, but tough call. Andrei has a lot of leadership upside - something we were horrifically lacking in 2014 in Montevideo.
This is the best squad we've fielded since our winning run over Romania in 2nd half of last decade.
WR want Spain, but they don't want the foreigner 23 they lined up a couple of years ago, so...
Damn, I'm going to be sweating watching this.

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby SallesNeto_BR » Fri, 09 Feb 2018, 01:21

Will Rugby Europe stream it? i'm with Bears

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby Zhenya_Zima » Fri, 09 Feb 2018, 01:38

SallesNeto_BR wrote:Will Rugby Europe stream it? i'm with Bears


Yes

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby Natal » Fri, 09 Feb 2018, 03:27

Could someone remind me why Rudoy is allowed to play for Russia having represented Kazakhstan for many years? Did he represent Russia in sevens?

As I recall, Maxim Lifontov also jumped from the Kazakhstan ship to represent Uzbekistan. Are World Rugby OK with this?

Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere on a previous post.

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby thatrugbyguy » Fri, 09 Feb 2018, 04:31

STMKY wrote:Advertising of the match in the break of the Youth Champions League FC Krasnodar - Real Madrid (33000 spectators)
https://www.instagram.com/p/Be7spOPBdr2 ... ficial_rur


When was the last time there was such this big an advertising campaign for a REC match?

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 09 Feb 2018, 05:10

thatrugbyguy wrote:
STMKY wrote:Advertising of the match in the break of the Youth Champions League FC Krasnodar - Real Madrid (33000 spectators)
https://www.instagram.com/p/Be7spOPBdr2 ... ficial_rur


When was the last time there was such this big an advertising campaign for a REC match?

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 09 Feb 2018, 05:11

"Slava" believes in victory! 8-)

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Re: 2018 REC : Russia v Spain - 10 Feb

Postby thatrugbyguy » Fri, 09 Feb 2018, 05:42

Vova12 wrote:Never ...


Well that's good news. Progress.

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