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ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby argie » Tue, 13 Feb 2018, 13:59

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby snapper37 » Tue, 13 Feb 2018, 16:42

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby victorsra » Tue, 13 Feb 2018, 18:10

It looks Victoria will have 3-8 ºC (37-46 ºF) with rain. Not that bad for us.
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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby Buffalo » Tue, 13 Feb 2018, 23:25

victorsra wrote:It looks Victoria will have 3-8 ºC (37-46 ºF) with rain. Not that bad for us.


How familiar are Brazilians with 3-8 Celsius rainy games? That weather isn't going to be pleasant for anyone. Sounds like it will be some sloppy 10 man rugby shitshow. How is the Brazilian pack this year?

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby victorsra » Wed, 14 Feb 2018, 00:30

We can have such conditions in the southern Brazil during the winter. Farrapos Rugby Clube, current national runners up, is located in the mountain area of the Southernmost state and sometimes hosts matches with 5-10 Celsius, rain and a pleasant fog.

Our pack started strong against Uruguay but declined in the 2nd half... Los Teros scored one try with a maul and another from scrum.
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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby NaBUru38 » Wed, 14 Feb 2018, 16:01

Canada desperately needs a win.

Buffalo wrote: How familiar are Brazilians with 3-8 Celsius rainy games?

victorsra wrote:We can have such conditions in the southern Brazil during the winter. Farrapos Rugby Clube, current national runners up, is located in the mountain area of the Southernmost state and sometimes hosts matches with 5-10 Celsius, rain and a pleasant fog.

Also, Brazil often plays at Uruguay for the South American Championship in May.

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby victorsra » Wed, 14 Feb 2018, 17:10

Usually when people think about Brazil they think about Rio, the Northeast beaches or the Amazon forest. But the 4 southernmost states (São Paulo, Parana, Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul, the 4 strongest in rugby, BTW) can have "cold" temperatures. It is never below 0 ºC (so, it is not really cold for a North American or an European), but it can be between 5 ºC and 15 ºC. There are even a couple of small cities in the Southern mountains where it SNOWS (well, 1 day in the year, but is snows :lol: )

Curiously, I must say when I visited Toronto in the summer I suffered a hard time with the heat, it was almost 40º C and São Paulo never reaches such temperature :!:
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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby snapper37 » Wed, 14 Feb 2018, 17:24

Buffalo wrote:
victorsra wrote:It looks Victoria will have 3-8 ºC (37-46 ºF) with rain. Not that bad for us.


How familiar are Brazilians with 3-8 Celsius rainy games? That weather isn't going to be pleasant for anyone. Sounds like it will be some sloppy 10 man rugby shitshow. How is the Brazilian pack this year?



How good is ours?

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby 4N » Wed, 14 Feb 2018, 18:05

victorsra wrote:Curiously, I must say when I visited Toronto in the summer I suffered a hard time with the heat, it was almost 40º C and São Paulo never reaches such temperature :!:


The Great Lakes region of NA gets very humid in summer. But the coastal south gets way worse. In Houston in August you sweat as soon as you go outside.

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby victorsra » Wed, 14 Feb 2018, 19:29

In the other hand São Paulo is 800m about the sea, 90km from the coast, crossed by the Capricorn Tropic. So not that hot. Without the polution and with more green areas, we would have a perfect climate.
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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby victorsra » Wed, 14 Feb 2018, 20:20

Brazilian squad. No Jardel Vetoratto...

Forwards: Endy Willian Pinheiro (Curitiba), Yan Rosetti (CUBA, Argentina), Caique Silva (São José), Jonatas "Chabal" Paulo (Band Saracens), Lucas Abud (Poli), Wilton "Nelson" Rebolo (Band Saracens), Diego Lopez (Pasteur), Gabriel Paganini (Band Saracens), Lucas "Bruxinho" Piero (Desterro), Michael "Ilha" Moraes (Curitiba), André "Buda" Arruda (Desterro), Arthur Bergo (SPAC), Cléber "Gelado" Dias (Poli), Matheus "Matias" Daniel (Jacareí);

Back: Laurent Bourda-Couhet (Band Saracens), Will Broderick (Band Saracens), Josh Reeves (Band Saracens), Leo Ceccarelli (Jacareí), Moisés Duque (São José), Felipe Sancery (São José), Ariel Rodrigues (Jacareí), De Wet Van Niekerk (Poli), Lucas Muller (Desterro), Robert Tenório (Pasteur), Lucas "Zé" Tranquez (SPAC);

http://www.portaldorugby.com.br/noticia ... convocados
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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 15 Feb 2018, 01:24

4N wrote:
victorsra wrote:Curiously, I must say when I visited Toronto in the summer I suffered a hard time with the heat, it was almost 40º C and São Paulo never reaches such temperature :!:


The Great Lakes region of NA gets very humid in summer. But the coastal south gets way worse. In Houston in August you sweat as soon as you go outside.

The South...Surprisingly Phoenix is just as hellish...except it's hotter and just as humid.

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby argie » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 12:51

victorsra wrote:Brazilian squad. No Jardel Vetoratto...



He was the man who put the team forward may times the last match.
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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby victorsra » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 14:37

Jardel is a fan's favorite. But he is injured...

No news about the Canadian 23?
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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby marvinparsons » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 15:08

victorsra wrote:Jardel is a fan's favorite. But he is injured...

No news about the Canadian 23?


Not posted yet. Often very late releasing it. Honestly I think it's probably more an issue with their communications/website. You'd think WR would mandate a roster release a couple days ahead of time. Kind of dumb on Canada's part as the roster release would ideally drum up interest in the game and should be put out Wednesday.

Canada actually played better last game, cutting out the insane errors. Maybe coaching having an impact?

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby victorsra » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 15:14

I am curious. Canada can drop to the 24th place in the Ranking. Kingsley Jones said Canada is the favorite and I agree. I guess he'll try to put his best available XV to break the bad sequence, right?
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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 15:23

Canada made misstake to hire Kingsley Jones.

He is not even average coach. He said that his team (Team) almost beat Georgia when Russia lost 33-0.

Russiam team inder his coaching was weaker than today.

Better seek new coach and preferably from Southern hemisphere or French.

Canada has descent squad and as i oserved poor tactics and motivation.

Canada played vs Uruguay like they did not care at all. And Uruguay was playing with a goal to Qualify for RWC.

Anyways Canada must look forward Repechage tournament.

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby marvinparsons » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 16:05

RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:Canada made misstake to hire Kingsley Jones.

He is not even average coach. He said that his team (Team) almost beat Georgia when Russia lost 33-0.

Russiam team inder his coaching was weaker than today.

Better seek new coach and preferably from Southern hemisphere or French.

Canada has descent squad and as i oserved poor tactics and motivation.

Canada played vs Uruguay like they did not care at all. And Uruguay was playing with a goal to Qualify for RWC.

Anyways Canada must look forward Repechage tournament.


Lineup is out: http://www.rugbycanada.ca/leagues/newsl ... age=103220.

Some new faces, hopefully they show something.

I honestly don't think Kingsley Jones is to blame. The team has produced identical results under 3 different coaches. It's the players. The roster is filled with holes st key positions and our structures don't work. Can't polish a turd unfortunately.

Wouldn't be surprised if we lose to Brazil after they put in a solid shift against Uruguay.

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby ruckovercdn » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 16:24

Canada’s roster to face Brazil on Saturday:



1. Djustice Sears-Duru – (Ealing Trailfinders/Ontario Blues) Oakville, ON
2. Ray Barkwill – (Seattle Seawolves/Ontario Blues) Niagara Falls, ON
3. Jake Ilnicki – (Newcastle Falcons/BC Bears) Williams Lake, BC
4. Josh Larsen – (Northland) Parksville, BC
5. Kyle Baillie – (London Scottish/Atlantic Rock) Summerside, PEI
6. Dustin Dobravsky - (Castaway Wanderers/BC Bears) Hanover, Germany
7. Lucas Rumball – (Balmy Beach RFC/Ontario Blues) Mississauga, ON
8. Luke Campbell – (James Bay AA/BC Bears) Victoria, BC
9. Phil Mack – Captain (James Bay AA/BC Bears) Victoria, BC
10. Shane O’Leary - (Ealing Trailfinders) Cork, Ireland
11. DTH van der Merwe – (Newcastle Falcons) Victoria, BC
12. Nick Blevins – (Calgary Hornets/Prairie Wolf Pack) Calgary, AB
13. Doug Fraser – (Castaway Wanderers/BC Bears) Ladysmith, BC
14. Cole Davis - (Calgary Saints/Prairie Wolf Pack) Calgary, AB
15. Patrick Parfrey – (Swilers RFC/Atlantic Rock) St. John’s, NL
16. Martial Lagain - Sherbrooke Abenakis/Atlantic Rock) Saint-Jean-de-Marsacq, France
17. Anthony Luca - (Burnaby Lake RFC/BC Bears) Burnaby, BC
18. Ryan Kotlewski – (Westshore RFC/Prairie Wolf Pack) Calgary, AB
19. Conor Keys - (UVIC Vikes/Atlantic Rock) Stittsville, ON
20. Cameron Polson – (Castaway Wanderers/BC Bears)
21. Andrew Ferguson – (Oakville Crusaders/Ontario Blues) Mississauga, ON
22. Guiseppe du Toit – (UVIC Vikes/BC Bears) Maple Ridge, BC
23. Brock Staller – (Meralomas RFC/BC Bears) Surrey, BC

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby 4N » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 18:25

RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:Canada made misstake to hire Kingsley Jones.

He is not even average coach. He said that his team (Team) almost beat Georgia when Russia lost 33-0.

Russiam team inder his coaching was weaker than today.

Better seek new coach and preferably from Southern hemisphere or French.

Canada has descent squad and as i oserved poor tactics and motivation.

Canada played vs Uruguay like they did not care at all. And Uruguay was playing with a goal to Qualify for RWC.

Anyways Canada must look forward Repechage tournament.


Yeah he wasn't a good hire. His father was Jonah Lomu's agent which is really why his name became known in the first place.

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby grande » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 19:15

That's a pretty rough squad for Canada... Hopefully some of the young guys can put in a solid day in the office.

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby ruckovercdn » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 20:36

I honestly expect us to go winless.

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby marvinparsons » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 21:08

I'd rather lose with some new faces in the lineup at least. I'm hoping these guys can put in a workmanlike effort, cut out all of the silly errors and maybe just maybe get a W. Losing to Brazil at home would be the cherry on top to make clear that we suck/aren't likely to win the repechage.

Must be hard for the guys with a ton of caps to basically have a 10% winning percentage, I have to imagine the team morale is low. Guys like DTH and Barkwill have lost A LOT of games.

Sidenote, does anyone know how team selection works in practice? Is it exclusively up to the coach or is it like North American sports where there's a GM of sorts that at least picks the general squad and the coach then picks starters/reserves?

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Re: ARC R3 - Canada vs Brazil - Feb 17th

Postby Was_a_Kat » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 23:25

Barkwill again. Unbelievable.

What happened to the young outside centre from Calgary who looked good in the first Uruguay game?

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