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ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby argie » Tue, 13 Feb 2018, 14:23

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby argie » Thu, 15 Feb 2018, 11:50

Any chance of a Chilean victory?.

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby 4N » Thu, 15 Feb 2018, 13:30

USA by 20+

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 15 Feb 2018, 14:53

When the USA Roster drops today I'll have more to say. But I don't see it being difficult, in fact we've never had a difficult match against Chile in this tournament.

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 15 Feb 2018, 22:46

I'm extremely excited about this roster: https://www.usarugby.org/2018/02/starte ... nst-chile/

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby Coloradoan » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 01:27

Most interested in seeing the bench, namely de Haas, Al-Jiboori and Lasike. Also of course looking forward to Whippy and Wooching's first starts.

And wow, it's not surprising that SD Legion are going to end up being good, but damn that's starting to look like it might be the best team in the league.

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby USA Rugby Fan » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 02:25

Coloradoan wrote:Most interested in seeing the bench, namely de Haas, Al-Jiboori and Lasike. Also of course looking forward to Whippy and Wooching's first starts.


Excited to see Wooching getting the start-lots of hype around him, wishing him the best. I must confess I know nothing about these three on the bench.
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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby argie » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 02:33

And the starting XV of Chile.

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby Suiram » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 03:09

Coloradoan wrote:Most interested in seeing the bench, namely de Haas, Al-Jiboori and Lasike. Also of course looking forward to Whippy and Wooching's first starts.

And wow, it's not surprising that SD Legion are going to end up being good, but damn that's starting to look like it might be the best team in the league.


Agree on all accounts. Still skeptical on Wooching but a chance to start will show whether he has made progress.

SD Legion has signed some great guys. But still waiting to see their depth. It would be great if MLR actually got more Eagles to play domestically.

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby Coloradoan » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 12:31

USA Rugby Fan wrote:
Coloradoan wrote:Most interested in seeing the bench, namely de Haas, Al-Jiboori and Lasike. Also of course looking forward to Whippy and Wooching's first starts.


Excited to see Wooching getting the start-lots of hype around him, wishing him the best. I must confess I know nothing about these three on the bench.


de Haas - young scrumhalf (u20 last year) who has most recently been with the Free State Academy in South Africa.
Al-Jiboori - young blindside/8 (u20 last year) who has 7s caps
Lasike - former BYU rugby star who pursued the NFL and had a cup of coffee with the Bears

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby TheStroBro » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 16:46

Your Preview of USA V. Chile

https://youtu.be/GmIYIYlDVz8

I have been very critical of our scrum-halves in the last year or so. I don't really care about Augspurger's athleticism. I think his instincts have him do things that scrum-halves don't do rather than what they're supposed to do. Get to the ruck, dig the ball out, and deliver the ball at speed to a forward or fly-half moving at pace. The balls float and against a legit opponent we will have issues. As we saw with Argentina XV, they played a Blitz Defense. Now I don't think Davies Ball Speed is awesome at the International level, but I think it's improved significantly, and it's much faster than Nate. Nate's a great athlete, but you have to do the Scrum-Half shit first.

Wooching will be interesting, there's like five guys in front of him who should probably be playing instead. He doesn't need a senior cap to earn a contract in France or the UK because of his Samoan passport as a Kolpak.

Al Jiboori is gonna be something else and he's played high level rugby for a long time. He came into the 7s program, I honestly think he'd get wasted for XVs if the Legion thing didn't pop up.

Lasike is gonna be something for about five years...I'd never seen Audsley play, but it appears the centers just got really crowded.

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby Suiram » Fri, 16 Feb 2018, 17:27

Good Stuff Stro, I would only say centers are not so much crowded as finally competitive. Center has always been one of the weakest positions for the Eagles. Other than Palamo, none have typically been professional players, and Palamo has always been a bit of hit and miss.

As much as Campbell is coming into his own, he is still 22, a year out of college rugby, and only playing domestically. Before Brache, his counterpart at 12/13 has been a bit of a revolving door. So hopefully what has been a real weakness can become more stable. I think the first step would be having real depth with 4-5 guys that can credibly be in the mix.

One clarification, on Colordoan's notes above. Both De Haas and Al-Jiboori were u20s last year, but De Haas I believe is still only 19.

Have to say I am pleasantly surprised by the ages of these guys. Really gives you some optimism for 2019 and beyond.

Very Young Eagles that already look credible (at the start of their career by any definition):
Lamositele, Malcolm, Germihuys, Teo, Campbell, Audsley, Cima, De Haas, Al-Jiboori (Arguably those last 3 are not yet proven at a capped international level)...can add Hooley to this group now

Slightly less young Eagles, still on the upswing of their playing career
Taufete'e, Waldren, Landry, Dolan, Peterson, Lamborn, Matyas, MacGinty, Magie

All of that first group could credibly be around for 3 more world cups. The second group should be around for at least 2.

Used this list for reference. http://www.americasrugbynews.com/player ... -pool-usa/ One thing I just noticed is that despite our depth in back row, really only Dolan, Lamborn and Germihuys could be called young. So there is maybe less depth than assumed going out a few years. Will need to rely on guys like Al Jiboori, Pinkelman, and Wooching taking a step up.

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby SDyeti » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 22:14

Kind of a light crowd here. Probably 1500-2000 max.

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby victorsra » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 22:18

Is it easy to go from LA main areas to Fullerton?
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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby 4N » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 22:36

LA is very spread out. It's like an hour from downtown but convenient to the rest of Orange County.

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby SDyeti » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 23:18

That first half was overall not that impressive from the Eagles. Definitely looks like a team that has new people in it and not everyone is on the same page at all times.

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby amz » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 23:21

Chile slightly stronger than I thought (first time when I watch them). USA gave away too many penalties in first half and handling was sloppy.

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Re: ARC R3 - USA vs Chile - Feb 17th

Postby Canadian_Rugger » Sat, 17 Feb 2018, 23:46

Chile have good skills but their amateurism is showing. The US players look like giants compared to the Chileans, some of whom look like they haven't seen a gym ever.

If they could get a similar setup to Uruguay they would see some benefits. There players need some size.

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