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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Sun, 16 Apr 2017, 14:07

My point being none of them are really going too impress. It jyst feels a little half cocked.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby victorsra » Sun, 16 Apr 2017, 16:43

Wow! Congrats Canada! I am really happy to see the Canucks winning in sevens!
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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby amz » Sun, 16 Apr 2017, 22:30

Big congrats, well deserved!

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Working Class Rugger » Sat, 22 Apr 2017, 02:06

Over on the MLR reddit there has been mention that the MLR has recieved interest from groups out of Atlanta, Boston, San Diego, Miami and Vancouver.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby grande » Sat, 29 Apr 2017, 13:46

Ontario Blues vs NY Old Blue today at 2:30EST. No live stream, unfortunately. They'll be updating their twitter.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby grande » Sat, 29 Apr 2017, 21:01

Ontario wins! 34-31, close game. Wish I could've seen it... Looking forward to next month's game vs Glendale.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby grande » Mon, 01 May 2017, 23:25

1. Jake Ilnicki helped the Northampton Saints win the Aviva A-League title. https://twitter.com/Ilnix/status/859102713078001664
2. Check out this dope try DTH scored for the Scarlets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dfA1qzhRgQ

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Tue, 02 May 2017, 13:38

Worcester Warriors announced Connor Braid is leaving the club at the end of the season.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby snapper37 » Tue, 02 May 2017, 16:18

ruckovercdn wrote:Worcester Warriors announced Connor Braid is leaving the club at the end of the season.



Hopefully he'll play domestically next year.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Buffalo » Tue, 02 May 2017, 16:24

snapper37 wrote:
ruckovercdn wrote:Worcester Warriors announced Connor Braid is leaving the club at the end of the season.



Hopefully he'll play domestically next year.


Hopefully if he's still interested in rugby he'll play Pro D2 or RFU Championship where the standard is world's better than Island Premier and CDI Premier.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Tue, 02 May 2017, 16:26

snapper37 wrote:
ruckovercdn wrote:Worcester Warriors announced Connor Braid is leaving the club at the end of the season.


Why? One guy isn't going to fix the system. Half our overseas professionals aren't from BC anymore so the idea they'll all come back an play for free is beyond stupid.

Hopefully he'll play domestically next year.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby grande » Tue, 02 May 2017, 17:24

Hopefully MLR is up and running and he can play there :)

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby snapper37 » Sat, 06 May 2017, 17:01

ruckovercdn wrote:
snapper37 wrote:
ruckovercdn wrote:Worcester Warriors announced Connor Braid is leaving the club at the end of the season.


Why? One guy isn't going to fix the system. Half our overseas professionals aren't from BC anymore so the idea they'll all come back an play for free is beyond stupid.

Hopefully he'll play domestically next year.


you're an idiot. Having ex national players playing in our domestic leagues enhances rugby locally... It drives younger players,.....

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Canadian_Rugger » Sun, 07 May 2017, 03:41

So I volunteered to coach this summer. Well no good deed goes unpunished.

Police Background Check - $30
Cost to Register for Rugby Canada Coach site - $25 (they charge you to sign up to there site to look at courses fucking ridiculous!)
Cost of Coaching Clinic - $250 (more expensive than my Hockey Canada cert and we don't even have to rent ice???)
Requirement to take Making Ethical Decisions Exam - $85 (note you need to buy the study package)
Cost of Study Package - $75

Yes I'm at $465 dollars and I haven't even done anything yet. I'm supposed to apply for some bursary to cover this partially and the club will supposedly cover the rest, this is of course an email promise so sure :lol: .

If I was playing still, dues would be another $450 although I'm not sure if the club gives coaches a discount. Needless to say, this sport has priced itself out of the market for what's supposed to be a cheap sport that can be played anywhere.

I've gotten back in to Brazilian Jim Jitsu again for $70 bucks a month, I can train everyday and don't need to worry about games getting cancelled (happened 3 times last year), getting injured needlessly and I can get in better shape. Yah I'd say it's about time I put this sport behind.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby mb.rugger89 » Sun, 07 May 2017, 03:52

Do we know what rugby canada does with all the player fees? Whats the break down of the cost?

We have that issue every year with players, its too espensive for some of them. And we only charge $265 in total. Also we have issues registering people since it went to online service but thats another matter....

I did some price digging in my area and we are tye most expensive sport for adults!

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Canadian_Rugger » Sun, 07 May 2017, 04:10

mb.rugger89 wrote:Do we know what rugby canada does with all the player fees? Whats the break down of the cost?

We have that issue every year with players, its too espensive for some of them. And we only charge $265 in total. Also we have issues registering people since it went to online service but thats another matter....

I did some price digging in my area and we are tye most expensive sport for adults!


They fund their "elite" programs with the money/pay for cucumber sandwiches for the VVIPs. I'll try and dig up the link but Rugby Canada made almost $1 million in profit after expenses off registrations last year which they reallocated elsewhere. It's pretty much criminal what they're doing.

All total, if I were to coach and play this year, it would cost me well over $900 in sunken costs, for what amounts to three months of the year.

I make a very good living and am having a hard time justifying spending that kind of money on a sport that runs for three months where you get two practices a week and a game (if you're lucky). I also golf, my membership to my golf club is $900 for the year, course opened up 1st April and will be open probably until end of October. I get access to social events, can play everyday if I want and I also get access to the Curling Club partnered with the Golf Course.

Is Rugby really more expensive than Golf?

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Sun, 07 May 2017, 15:37

Well no in equipment costs at least.

Rugby Canada had a 900 000 dollar profit off insurance costs. It's ridiculous that they can see that they're suffocating their base by doing that.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 07 May 2017, 16:22

Well at least Rugby Canada is financially ok...we're running huge deficits year on year.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby snapper37 » Sun, 07 May 2017, 18:00

TheStroBro wrote:Well at least Rugby Canada is financially ok...we're running huge deficits year on year.



But Rugby in the USA is growing, here in Canada it's slowly dying, Fewer players playing, club participation is down, The standard at the clubs is below that of 20 years ago, Representative (regions and provincial) is near non exinsistant and high school rugby is almost gone unless it's at a Private schools (which recruit players nationally)
The positive is the women's game.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby jonny24 » Sun, 07 May 2017, 19:35

Anyone make it out to the Wolfpack game? Looks like a decent crowd especially for the weather. I'm torn on how I feel about it... if only it was union.
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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Canadian_Rugger » Sun, 07 May 2017, 20:03

I watched it on tv. Official attendance was 6300. Considering the crap weather, that's amazing.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby iul » Sun, 07 May 2017, 20:50

Maybe Canada Rugby will learn something from this regarding professional clubs.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby victorsra » Sun, 07 May 2017, 22:01

Really embarassing for Rugby Canada.
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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby grande » Mon, 08 May 2017, 13:01

I'm really surprised with how successful the Wolfpack have been, but they've been doing a lot of things right.

- Slick branding
- Big social media presence
- Lots of newspaper coverage
- Got ALL of their games of TV
- Made it easy to by their merch
- Reasonably priced tickets

How many of those things have Rugby Canada got right?

Speaking of, anyone know how ticket sales are going for the RWC Qualifier?

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Tue, 09 May 2017, 12:28

Well given that they're having it at "stadiums" that can't even host 3000 people, we'll be lucky if both matches hit that. League did a ton of things right with the Wolfpack, from branding down to getting a ton of articles posted about the "cool new league" (excuse the pun). They were all over facebook, set up their own sub reddit, and got their name onto established media as well. What has Rugby Canada done? Well they put up a couple banners at local Rugby clubs in Edmonton, but I haven't heard a damned thing on the news about it.


In other news Tyler Ardron will leabe Ospreys this summer. I expect he'll land on his feed somewhere in France as he's only 25 and is still very much a quality back 5 forward. http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/39846484

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