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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby ihateblazers » Fri, 04 Aug 2017, 08:13

To be honest foreign pro coaches are useless for nations that dont have a domestic pro set up and just not worth the money.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby grande » Fri, 04 Aug 2017, 13:57

Linked from that Province article: http://www.newshub.co.nz/sport/racist-t ... 2012051717 Yowza.

Some people on Facebook are pushing for Cudmore as coach... Sure, let's throw a guy who's new to coaching at the national team. Come on.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Used2BwithIt » Fri, 04 Aug 2017, 18:36

Interesting to read that the players wanted his resignation.



Boo hoo ... can't take being told they're not fit / talented enough?

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby grande » Sat, 05 Aug 2017, 22:41

Recommendations from the review: http://www.rugbycanada.ca/leagues/newsl ... age=100839

Several of the recommendations are "hire more people," including a High Performance Director, a full-time coach to stay in Langford (not the Head Coach for some reason), a sport psychologist, and more technical coaches (scrums/forwards & defence).

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby rugby.change » Sun, 06 Aug 2017, 00:41

grande wrote:Some people on Facebook are pushing for Cudmore as coach... Sure, let's throw a guy who's new to coaching at the national team. Come on.


England did twice, Martin Johnson and Stuart Lancaster!!

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Was_a_Kat » Sun, 06 Aug 2017, 01:08

grande wrote:Linked from that Province article: http://www.newshub.co.nz/sport/racist-t ... 2012051717 Yowza.

Some people on Facebook are pushing for Cudmore as coach... Sure, let's throw a guy who's new to coaching at the national team. Come on.


I've seen suggestions of Charron. Great guy, but no experience. Pals with Powers and seems like a bit of a hanger on with the current regime.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Canadian_Rugger » Mon, 07 Aug 2017, 11:57

Jebb Sinclair appears to have retired and has been released by London Irish.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Used2BwithIt » Wed, 09 Aug 2017, 16:10

rugby.change wrote:
grande wrote:Some people on Facebook are pushing for Cudmore as coach... Sure, let's throw a guy who's new to coaching at the national team. Come on.


England did twice, Martin Johnson and Stuart Lancaster!!



To be fair to Lancaster, he had four years at Leeds academy (which produced a lot of pros for other clubs), two years as director at Leeds Carnegie, director of elite rugby player pathway for the RFU and several years coaching England Saxons (i.e. their 'A' team). I believe his 'failure' in the World Cup was playing conservatively compared to how they'd played up to the tournament, and that he possibly had some insecurity issues about not having played / coached at the highest level yet that he listened to his assistants too much.

Johnson was a boneheaded decision, as it will be if Canada choose someone like Charron or Cudmore. Coaching is more subtle than saying 'Do what I say, based on these things that I did when I was an elite player.' Somehow, owners of big sports teams don't get that.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby grande » Fri, 11 Aug 2017, 11:57

Do we have an interim coach? Or is the goal to have a new HC in place before the November tests?

(Also, the only good thing about the Māori game is we can't lose ranking points from it)

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby north walian » Mon, 14 Aug 2017, 21:13

Dustice Sears-Duru signed for Ealing Trailfinders?

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby tryman » Tue, 15 Aug 2017, 17:58

19,000 tickets already sold for the Maori game already, looks like it'll break records.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby rusty_lock » Tue, 15 Aug 2017, 19:50

tryman wrote:19,000 tickets already sold for the Maori game already, looks like it'll break records.


It really make you wonder if we could possibly host a Super Rugby franchise. The appetite for top flight rugby seems to be there. When you see this and the result of the Vancouver 7's it gives you a little hope.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Tue, 15 Aug 2017, 21:15

rusty_lock wrote:
tryman wrote:19,000 tickets already sold for the Maori game already, looks like it'll break records.


It really make you wonder if we could possibly host a Super Rugby franchise. The appetite for top flight rugby seems to be there. When you see this and the result of the Vancouver 7's it gives you a little hope.


There's also something to be said for venue choice. Playing in a professional, modern venue like BC Place is going to be a lot more appealing to casual fans than at Thunderbird Stadium.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Buffalo » Wed, 16 Aug 2017, 01:21

Coloradoan wrote:
rusty_lock wrote:
tryman wrote:19,000 tickets already sold for the Maori game already, looks like it'll break records.


It really make you wonder if we could possibly host a Super Rugby franchise. The appetite for top flight rugby seems to be there. When you see this and the result of the Vancouver 7's it gives you a little hope.


There's also something to be said for venue choice. Playing in a professional, modern venue like BC Place is going to be a lot more appealing to casual fans than at Thunderbird Stadium.


BC Place didn't fill up when Canada hosted Japan so it ain't just choice of venue. Vancouver 7s is a fun event that is helped out by drawing fans from not only across Canada but also internationals. And the All Black name is prestigious, even when it's "only" the Maori. I know people who know nothing about rugby but know about the All Blacks brand and dominance. But it's nice to see such good ticket sales, especially this far out.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby snapper37 » Wed, 16 Aug 2017, 03:34

Buffalo wrote:
Coloradoan wrote:
rusty_lock wrote:
tryman wrote:19,000 tickets already sold for the Maori game already, looks like it'll break records.


It really make you wonder if we could possibly host a Super Rugby franchise. The appetite for top flight rugby seems to be there. When you see this and the result of the Vancouver 7's it gives you a little hope.


There's also something to be said for venue choice. Playing in a professional, modern venue like BC Place is going to be a lot more appealing to casual fans than at Thunderbird Stadium.


BC Place didn't fill up when Canada hosted Japan so it ain't just choice of venue. Vancouver 7s is a fun event that is helped out by drawing fans from not only across Canada but also internationals. And the All Black name is prestigious, even when it's "only" the Maori. I know people who know nothing about rugby but know about the All Blacks brand and dominance. But it's nice to see such good ticket sales, especially this far out.



Not interested.....

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 16 Aug 2017, 04:04

I mean...when you're going to have a non-test side put 100 on you I'm not sure it would be appealing.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Buffalo » Wed, 16 Aug 2017, 04:21

I dunno, I kinda want to drive/fly down just to watch a side as class as the Maori perform. Even if they are putting boots to Canadian asses while doing so. Ultimately I won't because that's a lot of money to spend on going to a city I hate but still. In fact I'm guessing almost all tickets sold are to people who specifically want to see the Maori ABs because of the brand and don't care what Canada does.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby marvinparsons » Wed, 16 Aug 2017, 14:18

At this stage I'd watch a Canada game if in town and fits my schedule, but I honestly don't care. It's too depressing. I'd rather go watch a club or uni game for free.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Wed, 16 Aug 2017, 17:34

Buffalo wrote:
Coloradoan wrote:
rusty_lock wrote:
tryman wrote:19,000 tickets already sold for the Maori game already, looks like it'll break records.


It really make you wonder if we could possibly host a Super Rugby franchise. The appetite for top flight rugby seems to be there. When you see this and the result of the Vancouver 7's it gives you a little hope.


There's also something to be said for venue choice. Playing in a professional, modern venue like BC Place is going to be a lot more appealing to casual fans than at Thunderbird Stadium.


BC Place didn't fill up when Canada hosted Japan so it ain't just choice of venue. Vancouver 7s is a fun event that is helped out by drawing fans from not only across Canada but also internationals. And the All Black name is prestigious, even when it's "only" the Maori. I know people who know nothing about rugby but know about the All Blacks brand and dominance. But it's nice to see such good ticket sales, especially this far out.


They did draw over 10k against Japan at BC Place though. Compare that to what they got at Swangard for similar opponents in the PNC.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby 4N » Fri, 18 Aug 2017, 05:23

Adam Zaruba had his first preseason catch for Philadelphia:
https://mobile.twitter.com/AdrianFedkiw ... 00/video/1

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby snapper37 » Fri, 18 Aug 2017, 17:21

marvinparsons wrote:At this stage I'd watch a Canada game if in town and fits my schedule, but I honestly don't care. It's too depressing. I'd rather go watch a club or uni game for free.



100% agree.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby jonny24 » Mon, 28 Aug 2017, 03:07

Norfolk Harvesters RFC 10-0-0 NRU "B" Division Champions

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Working Class Rugger » Mon, 28 Aug 2017, 06:09

jonny24 wrote:Anyone know any more about this?

http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2017/0 ... september/


Heavily hinted at during a RugbyWrapUp panel discussion featuring Mark Winkour and Jamie Kennedy who recently announced RC New York. The panelists even had a bit of a smug 'we know something you don't' chuckle during the show. Kennedy was the most revealing mentioning a series of games to be scheduled likely next year featuring squads from NY, Boston, Chicago and potentially Ontario. I'd say more than likely Ontario now.

There's also the belief that at least three of the four above will be targeting MLR from 2019. Going from what we know. The one not known is Boston. But wouldn't be surprising if they did look to come on board.

MLR is looking at being quite an interesting proposition. Dallas is out failing to meet their financial commitments. While the group behind the suggested Minnesota team has since morphed into San Diego who will from all suggestions feature next year. So 8 teams in MLR 1. Apparently, there's a group in San Francisco targeting 2019 as well alongside Sacramento. Then there's RC NY who seem very likely. Chicago is already committed to 2019. Some are willing to bet Ontario are strong odds from 2019 as well. If Boston emerges then they could be an option as well.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Suiram » Tue, 05 Sep 2017, 14:18

Working Class Rugger wrote:
jonny24 wrote:Anyone know any more about this?

http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2017/0 ... september/


Heavily hinted at during a RugbyWrapUp panel discussion featuring Mark Winkour and Jamie Kennedy who recently announced RC New York. The panelists even had a bit of a smug 'we know something you don't' chuckle during the show. Kennedy was the most revealing mentioning a series of games to be scheduled likely next year featuring squads from NY, Boston, Chicago and potentially Ontario. I'd say more than likely Ontario now.

There's also the belief that at least three of the four above will be targeting MLR from 2019. Going from what we know. The one not known is Boston. But wouldn't be surprising if they did look to come on board.

MLR is looking at being quite an interesting proposition. Dallas is out failing to meet their financial commitments. While the group behind the suggested Minnesota team has since morphed into San Diego who will from all suggestions feature next year. So 8 teams in MLR 1. Apparently, there's a group in San Francisco targeting 2019 as well alongside Sacramento. Then there's RC NY who seem very likely. Chicago is already committed to 2019. Some are willing to bet Ontario are strong odds from 2019 as well. If Boston emerges then they could be an option as well.


To be fair, no one has really confirmed that Minnesota morphed into San Diego (that I saw). Just that both supposedly had South African backing and people interpreted that. While I may be proven wrong, that strikes me as a bit simplistic/silly (like Americans assuming Canada is all about the same). Could easily be two different groups of South Africans, even with backing / links to two different regions.

Also the Ontario Arrows team seems quite exciting if we can get more sub-national team Can-Am clashes.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby sammo » Tue, 05 Sep 2017, 20:38

Japan beat Canada 50-12 in the U20 world Trophy, highlights here https://www.facebook.com/worldrugby/?hc ... dE&fref=nf

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