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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby sk 88 » Mon, 26 Feb 2018, 19:25

The middle of the ARC seems a rather odd time to do it.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby 4N » Mon, 26 Feb 2018, 19:30

Done with the Vancouver 7s and merch sales in mind is my guess.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Mon, 26 Feb 2018, 19:33

4N wrote:Done with the Vancouver 7s and merch sales in mind is my guess.


Best chance to sell / advertise new merch

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby grande » Wed, 28 Feb 2018, 18:14

Ontario Arrows roster released.

http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2018/0 ... ats-match/

FORWARDS
Rob Brouwer (Lindsay), Tom Dolezel (London St. George’s), Pat Lynott (Bytown Blues), Mike Smith (Toronto Scottish), Jack McRogers (Aurora Barbarians), AJ Quattrin (Aurora Barbarians), Paul Ciulini (Aurora Barbarians), Mike Sheppard (capt., Stoney Creek Camels), Josh van Horne (Brantford Harlequins), Kolby Francis (Brantford Harlequins), Peter Milazzo (Toronto Saracens), Marcello Wainwright (Toronto Saracens), Andrew Wilson (Oakville Crusaders)

BACKS
Alex Gliksten (Saracens, UK), Mario van der Westhuizen (Guelph Redcoats), Will Kelly (Brantford Harlequins), Cooper Coats (Halifax Tars), Shawn Windsor (Stoney Creek Camels), Jamie Leveridge (Oakville Crusaders), Mitch Richardson (Stoney Creek Camels), Johnny Sheridan (Markham Irish), Jon West (Oakville Crusaders), Aaron McLelland (UBCOB Ravens)

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby jonny24 » Sat, 03 Mar 2018, 17:52

How do you think they'll do against Houston? I haven't been able to watch any of their games and have something on tonight. Which sucks cus I'm really looking forward to the Arrows.
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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby grande » Sat, 03 Mar 2018, 17:57

There's no way to watch the game tonight, unfortunately. You can listen on Houston radio (Arrows posted a link on Twitter) or follow live updates online.

I was really hoping to be able to watch this one. Maybe there will be highlights after the fact.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Buffalo » Sun, 04 Mar 2018, 05:02

http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/for ... 1.23188068

The City of Langford is looking to expand Westhills from the near 1800 seat venue to an 8000 seater. If they can get that done it would be great for rugby here. We desperately need a good midsized venue for tests when none really exist. You either have the small rugby parks like Ellerslie, Swangard and Twin Oaks or the big yet expensive venues in BMO Field and BC Place.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sun, 04 Mar 2018, 05:30

Nice!

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Sun, 04 Mar 2018, 07:15

Buffalo wrote:http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/for-langford-it-s-game-on-for-stadium-with-8-000-seats-1.23188068

The City of Langford is looking to expand Westhills from the near 1800 seat venue to an 8000 seater. If they can get that done it would be great for rugby here. We desperately need a good midsized venue for tests when none really exist. You either have the small rugby parks like Ellerslie, Swangard and Twin Oaks or the big yet expensive venues in BMO Field and BC Place.


Still though, who is going to Langford for a test?

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Working Class Rugger » Sun, 04 Mar 2018, 09:09

Buffalo wrote:http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/for-langford-it-s-game-on-for-stadium-with-8-000-seats-1.23188068

The City of Langford is looking to expand Westhills from the near 1800 seat venue to an 8000 seater. If they can get that done it would be great for rugby here. We desperately need a good midsized venue for tests when none really exist. You either have the small rugby parks like Ellerslie, Swangard and Twin Oaks or the big yet expensive venues in BMO Field and BC Place.


Would be an almost perfect fit for a Vancouver Island MLR team to be based out of.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 04 Mar 2018, 15:45

ruckovercdn wrote:
Buffalo wrote:http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/for-langford-it-s-game-on-for-stadium-with-8-000-seats-1.23188068

The City of Langford is looking to expand Westhills from the near 1800 seat venue to an 8000 seater. If they can get that done it would be great for rugby here. We desperately need a good midsized venue for tests when none really exist. You either have the small rugby parks like Ellerslie, Swangard and Twin Oaks or the big yet expensive venues in BMO Field and BC Place.


Still though, who is going to Langford for a test?


Plenty have, bad question.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Sun, 04 Mar 2018, 16:42

No it's really not. You're talking about the outskorts of a town that doesn't have great demographics for sport, and is very isolated for travel. Its not like they sell out every game there for thr ARC either. So if they cant sell out a 1500 person stadium why build an 8 000 person one ? A bwtter solution would be to partner with UBC and play those tests at in Vancouver at Thunderbird Stadium, or if ypu want to stay on the island at Royal Athletic Park or Centenial Stadium. All have a 3000 capacity.
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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 04 Mar 2018, 16:45

ruckovercdn wrote:No it's really not. You're talking about the outskorts of a town that doesn't have great demographics for sport, and is very isolated for travel. Its not like they sell out every game there for thr ARC either. So if they cant sell out a 1500 person stadium why build an 8 000 person one ? A bwtter solution would be to partner with UBC and play those tests at Thunderbird Stadium, or if ypu want to stay on the island at Centenial Stadium. Both have a 3000 capacity.


Dude, when did a 20 minute drive to a suburb become a hardship? Are islanders still rolling in horse drawn hand baskets?

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Sun, 04 Mar 2018, 16:48

TheStroBro wrote:
ruckovercdn wrote:No it's really not. You're talking about the outskorts of a town that doesn't have great demographics for sport, and is very isolated for travel. Its not like they sell out every game there for thr ARC either. So if they cant sell out a 1500 person stadium why build an 8 000 person one ? A bwtter solution would be to partner with UBC and play those tests at Thunderbird Stadium, or if ypu want to stay on the island at Centenial Stadium. Both have a 3000 capacity.


Dude, when did a 20 minute drive to a suburb become a hardship? Are islanders still rolling in horse drawn hand baskets?


Well on Saltspring probably.

Victoria is known as a town for newly weds and nearly deads. Its realtively small, and is a 2 hour ferry or drive from anywhere else. They cant hold onto major junior or ahl hockey teams so i very much doubt this will be much of a success.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby marvinparsons » Sun, 04 Mar 2018, 18:06

As noted Victoria is a horrible sports town. It also only has a population of 350,000, 15th largest in Canada. And is too far away to attract Vancouverites. And doesn't draw fans to rugby currently. And the stadium is 20 mins away from city centre. Doesn't sound like a recipe for success

I can't even think of a US equivalent to Victoria/ Van Island. Maybe Hawaii?

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Canadian_Rugger » Sun, 04 Mar 2018, 20:48

marvinparsons wrote:As noted Victoria is a horrible sports town. It also only has a population of 350,000, 15th largest in Canada. And is too far away to attract Vancouverites. And doesn't draw fans to rugby currently. And the stadium is 20 mins away from city centre. Doesn't sound like a recipe for success

I can't even think of a US equivalent to Victoria/ Van Island. Maybe Hawaii?


Nope, not even close to Hawaii. Oahu is only 1,500 sq km and has close to a million people on the island. The Island is also very young, I've been there and it's way different from Victoria. There is an actual economy there as opposed to Victoria which doesn't have much other than the Navy and Government. Victoria reminds me of a bigger version of Cape Cod.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Used2BwithIt » Mon, 05 Mar 2018, 03:14

TheStroBro wrote:
ruckovercdn wrote:No it's really not. You're talking about the outskorts of a town that doesn't have great demographics for sport, and is very isolated for travel. Its not like they sell out every game there for thr ARC either. So if they cant sell out a 1500 person stadium why build an 8 000 person one ? A bwtter solution would be to partner with UBC and play those tests at Thunderbird Stadium, or if ypu want to stay on the island at Centenial Stadium. Both have a 3000 capacity.


Dude, when did a 20 minute drive to a suburb become a hardship? Are islanders still rolling in horse drawn hand baskets?



Along the Colwood Crawl? Horse drawn cart on the bike path would be quicker when traffic is bad.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby snapper37 » Mon, 05 Mar 2018, 19:06

ruckovercdn wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:
ruckovercdn wrote:No it's really not. You're talking about the outskorts of a town that doesn't have great demographics for sport, and is very isolated for travel. Its not like they sell out every game there for thr ARC either. So if they cant sell out a 1500 person stadium why build an 8 000 person one ? A bwtter solution would be to partner with UBC and play those tests at Thunderbird Stadium, or if ypu want to stay on the island at Centenial Stadium. Both have a 3000 capacity.


Dude, when did a 20 minute drive to a suburb become a hardship? Are islanders still rolling in horse drawn hand baskets?


Well on Saltspring probably.

Victoria is known as a town for newly weds and nearly deads. Its realtively small, and is a 2 hour ferry or drive from anywhere else. They cant hold onto major junior or ahl hockey teams so i very much doubt this will be much of a success.




We can't hold Major Junior hockey??? what do you call the Royals??? The old Cougars team that was here played out of a 100 year old arena and were the worst team in the league for 10 plus years.

Centennial stadium is a terrible stadium as there is a running track around it. (have to sit so far back)

Then thing about Victoria is people will watch GOOD sport. Our major junior hockey team is successful, so people attend. When the rugby is good people will watch, I remember playing club games in front of 500 plus fans, club rugby is terrible now and the result is people will find other things they can do. We currently had brazil playing here and we can all agree the level of Rugby from both nations is hardly top notch. When the Womens 7's is here in May expect the stadium to full, (extra seating is brought in for those days)

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Mon, 05 Mar 2018, 22:15

Cougars, Salmon Kings ...

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby 4N » Mon, 05 Mar 2018, 22:23

Yeah isn't Victoria Canada's retirement capital? Milder weather, nice scenery etc.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Used2BwithIt » Mon, 05 Mar 2018, 22:47

4N wrote:Yeah isn't Victoria Canada's retirement capital? Milder weather, nice scenery etc.


Not to mention 'retiring' people as well ... when jobs go up, young people have to compete against those from elsewhere in the country who've got 10+ years of experience.

Always seems to be a struggle for hopefuls who move out there to catch the eyes of selectors. Imagine if they could stay at home, not have to leave their job and still be considered.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby LittleGuy » Tue, 06 Mar 2018, 04:42

If anyone wants a giggle, Chile was claiming 1,000 attendance for the Canada game. There is NO way it was that large, 500 was pushing it. 600 if you included all the "personnel" involved in putting on or actually playing the game.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 06 Mar 2018, 07:27

LittleGuy wrote:If anyone wants a giggle, Chile was claiming 1,000 attendance for the Canada game. There is NO way it was that large, 500 was pushing it. 600 if you included all the "personnel" involved in putting on or actually playing the game.


So? 600 is a rounded 1000. Nobody is hurt if it is 600 or 1000 and it sounds better for sponsors. More successful marginal sports do that all the time.
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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby ruckovercdn » Tue, 06 Mar 2018, 13:45

Well you can round 15.6 to 16 sure, but to call 600 1000 is basically doubling the numbers. Anyone who saw that game know it was a stretch to even call it 600.

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Re: Canadian rugby

Postby Bogdan_DC » Tue, 06 Mar 2018, 13:47

ruckovercdn wrote:Cougars

This sounds interesting...

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