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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby mcruic » Sun, 30 Apr 2017, 16:42

Ghana 29-5 Benin at half-time in Regional Challenge, West 1

Full-time: Ghana 46-5 Benin.
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby mcruic » Wed, 03 May 2017, 15:19

Togo v Benin today in Ghana.

Togo favourites. They had a few close losses to Ghana in the last few years (10-5 and 17-0), while they beat Benin 63-0 in their last meeting (in 2013).
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Thomas » Wed, 03 May 2017, 15:30

Are these official matches? there is nothing on the WR Site the first match scheduled is the Japan v HK.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Wed, 03 May 2017, 15:32

A short report about Ghana vs Benin: http://starrfmonline.com/2017/05/01/gha ... ver-benin/

Thomas wrote:Are these official matches? there is nothing on the WR Site the first match scheduled is the Japan v HK.


I would think that they are recognised by RugbyAfrique as official and therefore should be by WR although the teams may not all qualify for ranking?

At halftime: Benin 7 - 7 Togo

mcruic wrote:Togo v Benin today in Ghana.

Togo favourites. They had a few close losses to Ghana in the last few years (10-5 and 17-0), while they beat Benin 63-0 in their last meeting (in 2013).


Well then, we may consider it a surprise that Benin won the game 14 - 12.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby mcruic » Wed, 03 May 2017, 16:57

Yes - hard to gauge "surprises" in this zone, as teams may play only 1 match every 2 or 3 years...

Ghana and Togo are associate World Rugby members, Benin is not a member. So only the Ghana v Togo match would be eligible for the ranking...

It seems a bit pointless to me. You are the world governing body of rugby - what other organisation are Benin going to join? You might as well rank them if they are playing internationals against your members...
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Wed, 03 May 2017, 17:00

mcruic wrote:
It seems a bit pointless to me. You are the world governing body of rugby - what other organisation are Benin going to join? You might as well rank them if they are playing internationals against your members...

Agreed, at the very least give them a provisional ranking status that counts toward "official" ranking once the team is fully eligible.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Wed, 03 May 2017, 21:15

Unfortunately almost no spectators in the great Accra stadium. Even for the first match, involving Ghana, they seemed less than 100

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby antlat » Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:25

Only full members are ranked therefore none of the matches between Ghana, Togo and Benin will count towards ranking

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby getienne » Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:54

A short report about Ghana vs Benin: http://starrfmonline.com/2017/05/01/gha ... ver-benin/

Match sheet on line : http://www.rugbyafrique.com/feuilles-de-match-2017/

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby mcruic » Fri, 05 May 2017, 17:13

Haven't seen any news about the Bronze Cup North (Cameroon, Algeria, Nigeria) that's meant to be 6-13 May. Assuming the start is delayed, as neither Algeria nor Nigeria federations have any news about going to Cameroon on their Facebook pages...

EDIT - Postponed AGAIN - 26 June to 1st July

http://rugby-kwata.blogspot.co.uk/2017/ ... an-de.html
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby mcruic » Fri, 05 May 2017, 21:04

http://connachttribune.ie/globe-trotter ... attle-555/

Interesting story about an Irishman who captained Brazil and LIBERIA.

Some footage of a Liberia v Sierra Leone international match on 23.08.1969 can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVWScuteF2s
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby mcruic » Fri, 05 May 2017, 21:11

27th April: Guinea 0-11 Sierra Leone in Conakry

Return match in Freetown in December.

http://guineenews.org/rugby-guinee-etri ... contre-11/
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 06 May 2017, 22:36

What about Ghana vs Togo?
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Sun, 07 May 2017, 00:42

victorsra wrote:What about Ghana vs Togo?

It is today (sunday) and not yesterday as we thought

mcruic wrote:27th April: Guinea 0-11 Sierra Leone in Conakry

Return match in Freetown in December.

http://guineenews.org/rugby-guinee-etri ... contre-11/

Good discovering! So two new nations debuting, if the match has been played 15 vs 15 in 80'
Surprising also that the president of the guinean federation is a woman
Some more photos here and yes, they were surely 15 vs 15; but there was also a third team, so maybe it was not an 80' match https://www.facebook.com/pg/Conakryka-R ... 8393865929

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby RugInt » Sun, 07 May 2017, 01:33

27th April: Guinea 0-11 Sierra Leone in Conakry
Return match in Freetown in December.
http://guineenews.org/rugby-guinee-etri ... contre-11/


Fascinating article thanks mcruic. Although the match was played in September (2016 I presume) the article is dated 27 April 2017. A very good find! Interesting comment that followed calculates the score to have been 20-0.

Now to see if a match data report can be found. Are either of these nations affiliated to Rugby Africa?

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby RugInt » Sun, 07 May 2017, 01:43

As part of the relaunch of its activities and to meet the requirements of the International Rugby Federation (FIR), the Guinean Federation of Rugby (FGR) since its creation in 2007,
Hosted an international friendly against Sierra Leone on 28 September in Conakry.
The friendly match between Guinea and Sierra Leone resulted in a score of 8-0 in favor of the visitors. And as for the return match, it is scheduled for December 2017 in Fretawoon.


http://www.bcmedia.org/2017/04/28/sport ... mical-8-0/

Well, having browsed the Conkary Rugby Club's facebook page I found above but now I'm confused.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Sun, 07 May 2017, 04:46

"28 september" is just the name of the stadium, not the date of the event which has effectively been played on april 2017. In september 28 2009, wikipedia says, a military junta which had taken the power with a golpe opened the fire against an unarmed protesting rally in the stadium itself, killing more than 100 people and using violence to many others, specially women

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby mcruic » Sun, 07 May 2017, 12:05

Yes, the Conakry Rugby page seems to suggest a try and a penalty only (0-8).

The Guinean news report mentioned above mentions 2 conversions (but no tries!?!?), a penalty and a drop goal.

Nothing from Sierra Leone on the match...

I'm not sure why the article would mention a penalty and a drop goal if these weren't scored. The 2 conversions bit is odd though.

I still think the score could have been 0-11.
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby mcruic » Sun, 07 May 2017, 14:53

So, 27th April: Guinea 0-8 Sierra Leone

Response from the Guineans:

"bonjour, en faite le score c'est 0-8 1 essai et 1 pénalité, le match était plutôt équilibré, la Sierra Léone évolue depuis quelques années avec les mêmes joueurs, un peu plus d'expérience que nous, nos jeunes ont un peu trop fait de faute individuelle ou le collectif aurait permis de les mettre en difficulté. nous somme quand même content de ce match, notre pack a pris le dessus sur l'ensemble des mêlées, il nous manque de l’expérience pour profiter de nos temps forts, match retour très attendu ....."
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 07 May 2017, 15:39

The match Ghana v Togo appears to have been in some doubt earlier due to heavy rain saturating the pitch, but it eased and the game is underway.

Ghana lead Togo 5 - 0 ( and that stayed so to halftime)

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 07 May 2017, 16:24

2nd half, an unconverted try for Ghana so should be 10 - 0 now.

Final score was 10 - 0 so Ghana win the tournament.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Tue, 09 May 2017, 20:36

If Guinea Conakry v Sierra Leone was a test match, the list of nations that have never played a test becomes a little shorter

ASIA: Bangladesh, Vietnam, Myanmar, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nepal, North Korea, Yemen, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Kuwait, Oman, Palestine, Bahrain, Bhutan, Timor, Maldives.

AFRICA: Ethiopia, Sudan, Mozambique, Angola, South Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea, Liberia, Central Africa, Cape Verde, Comoros, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, Guinea-Bissau, Seychelles, São Tomé & Príncipe.

NORTH AMERICA: Cuba, Haiti, Puerto Rico, Antigua & Barbuda, Belize, Dominica, Saint Kitts & Nevis.

SOUTH AMERICA: Bolivia, Suriname.

EUROPE: Albania, Macedonia, Iceland, Liechtenstein, San Marino, Vaticano.

OCEANIA: Kiribati, Micronesia, Nauru, Northern Mariana, Palau, Tuvalu.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby getienne » Sat, 13 May 2017, 07:30

So, 27th April: Guinea 0-8 Sierra Leone

Response from the Guineans:

"bonjour, en faite le score c'est 0-8 1 essai et 1 pénalité, le match était plutôt équilibré, la Sierra Léone évolue depuis quelques années avec les mêmes joueurs, un peu plus d'expérience que nous, nos jeunes ont un peu trop fait de faute individuelle ou le collectif aurait permis de les mettre en difficulté. nous somme quand même content de ce match, notre pack a pris le dessus sur l'ensemble des mêlées, il nous manque de l’expérience pour profiter de nos temps forts, match retour très attendu ....."


Scorers for Sierra Leone : Try : Mamoud O. Kamara ; Pen : Mohamed Yansaneh
"Actually the scores was 8 - 0 against Guinea. A TRY was sored and a PENALTY also was scored by Sierra Leone. The Guinean side was favored with 4 penalties but missed all of them while Sierra Leone have two PENALTIES they scored 1 and missed the other one. The CONVERSION kick was also missed after A TRY was scored."
By courtesy of Jeremiah M Pratt,

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby mcruic » Sat, 13 May 2017, 09:21

Canalina wrote:If Guinea Conakry v Sierra Leone was a test match, the list of nations that have never played a test becomes a little shorter

ASIA: Bangladesh, Vietnam, Myanmar, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nepal, North Korea, Yemen, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Kuwait, Oman, Palestine, Bahrain, Bhutan, Timor, Maldives.

AFRICA: Ethiopia, Sudan, Mozambique, Angola, South Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea, Liberia, Central Africa, Cape Verde, Comoros, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, Guinea-Bissau, Seychelles, São Tomé & Príncipe.

NORTH AMERICA: Cuba, Haiti, Puerto Rico, Antigua & Barbuda, Belize, Dominica, Saint Kitts & Nevis.

SOUTH AMERICA: Bolivia, Suriname.

EUROPE: Albania, Macedonia, Iceland, Liechtenstein, San Marino, Vaticano.

OCEANIA: Kiribati, Micronesia, Nauru, Northern Mariana, Palau, Tuvalu.


Timor should of course be East Timor (West Timor is part of Indonesia).

Liberia seems to have played (see this video - Liberia v Sierra Leone from 1969) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVWScuteF2s

If you are only including independent countries, Northern Mariana Islands should not be on the list (they are a US territory). Also, they have played many times against Guam in the past (labelled as "Saipan").
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Mon, 15 May 2017, 22:01

From this thursday to next wednesday Niamey hosts the Africa Cup regional level West II

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The aim should be to conquer more points than Ghana, which finished pool West I with 9 points and +51 as difference
The promotion to Africa Cup Bronze should indeed be reserved to the best of the four regional pools' winners.
Pool Centre and Pool South have yet to be played

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