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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby rey200 » Mon, 20 Aug 2018, 16:35

so the silver cup final is postponed? Will Ghana be promoted?
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Tobar » Mon, 20 Aug 2018, 17:54

Former Namibian international Kees Lensing signed as Forwards coach for Rugby United New York.

http://www.rugbyunitedny.com/news/rugby ... es-lensing

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby dwpeate » Mon, 20 Aug 2018, 20:22

rey200 wrote:so the silver cup final is postponed? Will Ghana be promoted?


Yes - I think the same thing happened last season though with the silver cup final

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 21:50

Zambia 7s in Lusaka, this weekend, with Zambia A and B, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Lesotho and Malawi (first ever tournament for this last nation, they say), plus some southafrican sides
https://twitter.com/zambiasevens

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Sat, 01 Sep 2018, 06:13

Sierra Leone and Togo forfeited from Regional 7s tournament in Ivory Coast; 8 teams confirmed, included the almost debutant Guinea

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Tue, 04 Sep 2018, 05:05

I don't know if this was already known on the forum: Namibia Welwitschias risk to withdraw from Currie Cup

https://allafrica.com/stories/201808240511.html

https://allafrica.com/stories/201808280225.html

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Sables4EVA » Tue, 04 Sep 2018, 05:50

There is no risk, they have withdrawn, new regulations on professional rugby have frced them to pull out as they cannot afford to host and pay the travel costs of the visiting South African teams as per the new requirements. This may open the door for Zimbabwe as the funding is here.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Neptune » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 03:37

Sables4EVA wrote:There is no risk, they have withdrawn, new regulations on professional rugby have frced them to pull out as they cannot afford to host and pay the travel costs of the visiting South African teams as per the new requirements. This may open the door for Zimbabwe as the funding is here.


The Simbas can also jump in, coz they play all their games in Western Province.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby JLJordaan » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 08:28

I wish Namibia could still be part of the Currie Cup, it's the reason why we've improved over the last couple of years and increased our depth. It would be great if the Sables and Simbas could join as well, it would provide more opportunities for the players to play against quality opposition.

Another solution can be that SARU allows the CC teams to sign more players from these other African countries, but from what I've heard they are financially in quite a pickle.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Figaro » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 11:11

I read somewhere that the SARU want to greatly reduce the number of players on Professional contracts. Could spur a new player drain of lower-level SA players to lower Tier 1 and Tier 2 leagues; which would lower the standard of the lower levels of SA rugby.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby JLJordaan » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 11:53

If that is the case, then the European leagues will be licking their lips. I think MLR would also try and get some contracts.

If SARU decides to do that then I'm afraid that will be the final nail in SA rugby's coffin.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Sables4EVA » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 15:49

We have also lost the SARU Gold Cup for clubs which will mean Zimbabwean and Namibian clubs are no longer getting top level experience.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Figaro » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 11:29

JLJordaan wrote:If that is the case, then the European leagues will be licking their lips. I think MLR would also try and get some contracts.

If SARU decides to do that then I'm afraid that will be the final nail in SA rugby's coffin.


https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/sa-rugb ... l-20180806
https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/sa-contemp ... act-model/

The idea seems to be to free up money to pay the best players more by contracting fewer lower-level players. 950 pro players is huge compared to the other Super Rugby / Pro14 unions:

"According to Rapport newspaper, there are 989 professional players in South Africa, resulting in R480-million spent on salaries per year. The new contracting system is aimed at reducing salary costs by at least R75-million and the contracted player pool to 459, which will include the national men’s and women’s sevens teams.

This would put South Africa on par with New Zealand, who has between 440 and 500 players on its books, Australia (225) and Ireland (between 180 and 200). Only England has more than 900 contracted players.


Because the focus is meant to be on maintaining the competitiveness of their top sides I would imagine if anything this will lead to fewer top-level South Africans in the top European leagues. But it could certainly lead to there being far more in the Tier 2 leagues e.g. the Italian Excellenza, MLR, Japanese Top League etc.

As the residency period is now 5 years it might be a while before they start showing up in other national sides though.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Tobar » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 12:12

Under this new policy, this will still allow 40-50 fullyprofessional players per team. I don’t know exactly how these squads and academies work so forgive my ignorance but it sounds like you have your Super rugby side plus around 20 who likely wouldn’t make the cut. I guess these players would either be in the academies or Currie Cup.

But as Fígaro said above, I also believe this will only change the quality of the lower levels and not lose as many of the best. From the looks of it these guys just want to get out of South Africa and will take any opportunity they can to play overseas.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby dwpeate » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 12:34

Apparently Kenya have asked to play Namibia for some Repechage warm ups in Nairobi

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Neptune » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 16:14

dwpeate wrote:Apparently Kenya have asked to play Namibia for some Repechage warm ups in Nairobi


Yes, that is correct.

http://ragahouse.com/news/item/kenya-pl ... pean-sides

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 16:23

If Kenya eyes games v Namibia on October 21 and 28, Portugal can't be a sparring: they face Romania the following weekend. And unfortunately I doubt we have the capability to field a side on that date either. Let's hope so.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 19:08

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 12:18

Article from May 2018 about rugby in DR Congo, in French but a lot of information including the introduction, history and development of the domestic game; existing clubs (30) in their championship and a list of Congolais players in France.

http://www.congo-autrement.com/page/con ... congo.html

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 16:03

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:...about rugby in DR Congo ... existing clubs (30) ...

hmm, some doubts about

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Just an other photo of rugby in Madagascar, taken from a match of the maximum championship played this last weekend. All the stands were full, the article says
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby qwerty » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 16:31

Canalina wrote:
Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:...about rugby in DR Congo ... existing clubs (30) ...

hmm, some doubts about

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Just an other photo of rugby in Madagascar, taken from a match of the maximum championship played this last weekend. All the stands were full, the article says
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Madagascar has so much potential to be a beautiful rugby country, it pains me to see them perform so low.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 16:58

Canalina wrote:
Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:...about rugby in DR Congo ... existing clubs (30) ...

hmm, some doubts about

Well they are all listed:

1. SAINT JOSEPH LUKUNGA
2. ETOILES DE LA GOMBE
3. PANTHERES
4. RAC 1
5. ACADEMIE CLUB
6. LES CASQUES BLEUS
7. CORIACES DE L’UNIKIN 4
8. RC TEMBO
9. LES CROQUES-MORTS
10. LES DURS DE PANDA
11. NEW KRAC 2
12. MAMBAS PERENCO
13. ETOILES DE MATADI
14. OKAPI
15. JAGUARS
16. KOKOLO
17. RENAISSANCE
18. LES ELUS
19. NGANTSHIES
20. NEW LIONS
21. TONNERRE
22. BANDAL
23. UPN 3
24. BAC EVOLUTION
25. RC ECLIPSE
26. POLICE NATIONALE
27. GARDE REPUBLICAINE
28. SCORPION DE NDJILI
29. RUGBY CLUB KIKWIT
30. KWILU ATHLETIC


It's a huge country, I don't see why it can't be true. It's only unfortunate that they seem to be unable/unwilling to participate more often in internationals but then maybe it's the logistics of getting players together. They should be at least at Silver Cup level.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby victorsra » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 18:50

qwerty wrote:
Canalina wrote:
Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:...about rugby in DR Congo ... existing clubs (30) ...

hmm, some doubts about

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Just an other photo of rugby in Madagascar, taken from a match of the maximum championship played this last weekend. All the stands were full, the article says
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Madagascar has so much potential to be a beautiful rugby country, it pains me to see them perform so low.


This article claims 164 clubs only in Madagascar's capital Antananarivo https://www.rugbypass.com/news/22000-pl ... pt-secret/
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby rey200 » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 19:51

well, that's the point, in Madagascar it can't possibly be lack of talent. It has to be lack of organisation and lack of high performance structures (selection etc)

DR Congo is huge and unstable. Both really, really poor.
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby qwerty » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 20:11

rey200 wrote:well, that's the point, in Madagascar it can't possibly be lack of talent. It has to be lack of organisation and lack of high performance structures (selection etc)

DR Congo is huge and unstable. Both really, really poor.


Tonga has only 100000 inhabitants. Maybe not as poor as Madagascar, but Madagascar surely has more gross resources than Tonga.

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