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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 02 Aug 2019, 06:51

I thought, wow, 50 Dollar sounds like a lot of money. Then I googled it and the 50 ZBW for V.I.P entry are actually 0,12 €. Amazing that they manage to play international rugby, when the whole attendance fee probably doesn't even cover the flight of the coach.
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Edgar » Fri, 02 Aug 2019, 12:17

The Southern Kings have added Namibia to their preparations for the upcoming PRO14 season, which begins in September. Earlier this week the Kings announced they would take on Georgia in a warm-up match in Tbilisi on August 27.

Meanwhile, Lesotho, Botswana and Malawi to be represented at the Zambia 7s next month:

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 02 Aug 2019, 18:47

That's the first time I saw Malawi's badge... but that's only for sevens.
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby dwpeate » Fri, 02 Aug 2019, 22:48

The dates of the above mentioned Southern Kings v Namibia series are August 31st and September 7th.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Blurandski » Fri, 02 Aug 2019, 23:22

Edgar wrote:The Southern Kings have added Namibia to their preparations for the upcoming PRO14 season, which begins in September. Earlier this week the Kings announced they would take on Georgia in a warm-up match in Tbilisi on August 27.


Will this make Kings the side defeated by teams from more nations than any other? By my count NZ, Aus, SA, Argentina, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Italy are already done.

If they get included in the European Cup they'll tick off England and France. Have already lost to the BIL Lions in 2009. If they lose vs Namibia and Georgia they'll tick off 10 different nations that they've lost to teams from.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Tobar » Sat, 03 Aug 2019, 00:09

RugbyLiebe wrote:I thought, wow, 50 Dollar sounds like a lot of money. Then I googled it and the 50 ZBW for V.I.P entry are actually 0,12 €. Amazing that they manage to play international rugby, when the whole attendance fee probably doesn't even cover the flight of the coach.


In Colombia they charge 3000 COP which is equivalent to $1 (and a little more than 1 beer). But there’s no chance that games at this level are moneymakers anyway so charging too much is shooting yourself in the foot. Sometimes you just have to charge something so they feel invested.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 03 Aug 2019, 07:25

Zimbabwe vs Kenya will be live streamed by Next level Sports TV

I don't know if it will be geo blocked / subscription / free to all but there may be more later at their face book page later today (URL edited ) https://www.facebook.com/nextlevelsportstv/

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby dwpeate » Sat, 03 Aug 2019, 12:54

West Africa Rugby Series
Ghana 12-22 Ivory Coast
Nigeria 14-15 Ivory Coast
Ghana 12-14 Nigeria

Standings
Ivory Coast W2 L0 PD+11
Nigeria W1 L2 PD+1
Ghana W0 L2 PD-12

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby 4N » Sat, 03 Aug 2019, 12:59

Blurandski wrote:
Edgar wrote:The Southern Kings have added Namibia to their preparations for the upcoming PRO14 season, which begins in September. Earlier this week the Kings announced they would take on Georgia in a warm-up match in Tbilisi on August 27.


Will this make Kings the side defeated by teams from more nations than any other? By my count NZ, Aus, SA, Argentina, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Italy are already done.

If they get included in the European Cup they'll tick off England and France. Have already lost to the BIL Lions in 2009. If they lose vs Namibia and Georgia they'll tick off 10 different nations that they've lost to teams from.


What a farce of a franchise.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Edgar » Sat, 03 Aug 2019, 13:55

Kenya leading Zimbabwe 17-17 early second half LIVE ?? Didn't even know this was on. :shock: Updates to follow:

Zimbabwe just scored down the left wing. Conversion makes it 24-22 Zimbabwe midway 2nd half. Venue is Bulawayo, Zimbabwe.
Kenya hit straight back, breakaway try by one of the forwards. 24-29 Kenya. Exciting game!
Zimbabwe lead 30-29, on attack, closing minutes. Upset coming??

Fulltime Zimbabwe 30 Kenya 29 !!

Full match report including scorers: http://www.scrummage.co.ke/2019/08/03/k ... YN5atoX--s

Ghana 12 Nigeria 14

Nigeria did very well to finish second in the series. Ghana came last. Ivory Coast winners. Seemed like a good competitive tournament and hopefully it will become an annual affair. If the African Championships are not back up and running next year, they should try and attract more teams, starting with Senegal.

In Potchefstoom, the Jaguares XV thrashed SWD Eagles 83-3 (halftime 38-3) in another one-sided fixture at Fanie du Toit Stadium. They are now 5-0, top of the table. Report here: https://www.supersport.com/rugby/currie ... SWD_Eagles
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 03 Aug 2019, 14:05

Zimbabwe were off to a great start at 17 - 5 ahead in 20 mins, then an error in attack and Kenya break out for a try on the counter-attack. 17 - 10 on the half-hour. Kenya look a bit vulnerable in defence but quite sharp with the ball in hand on attack.

Stream broke for me with Kenya leading 27 - 24 in the second half...TV screen scoreboard may not have been updated with the conversion so could be 29 - 24 as above.

Oh we have a score update to Zimbabwe 30 - 29 Kenya but the stream is atrocious

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Edgar » Sun, 04 Aug 2019, 08:29

If a silver lining is to emerge from the current shambles of African rugby it will be the revival of the Victoria Cup and creation of the inaugural West African (WAR) series. But factionalizing competition is not the answer for African rugby and these mini-competitions should run alongside the open regional championships rather than in place of them. At the moment we have the number 2 team on the continent, Namibia, sitting idle, along with Madagascar, the second biggest rugby-playing nation on the continent in terms of player numbers, and Senegal, a first division competitor as recently as two years ago. Not to mention the North African trio. A lot has been done to help support the game in other regions lately, notably the Pacific and the Americas, and now it's time for World Rugby to turn its attention to Africa. We can see from Kenya's results against European opposition that rugby on the continent had been falling behind the rest of the world, even before the cancellation of the African championships. But the Simba Cubs (Chipu) showed at the recent world junior championships that the raw potential is certainly there. The international governing body needs to make an investment in the continent, help get the open regional championships back on its feet, and look at ways to integrate African rugby into the international community - and not just Namibia.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 04 Aug 2019, 11:31

An news report for Zimbabwe vs Kenya, to fill in the gaps of the awful live streaming here https://www.sundaynews.co.zw/sables-bea ... toria-cup/

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby dwpeate » Sun, 04 Aug 2019, 11:42

An unofficial sort of table for the Victoria Cup

Zimbabwe P3 W3 L0 PD+35 | 2BP | 14 Pts
Kenya P4 W2 L2 PD+27 | 4BP | 12 Pts
Uganda P3 W1 L2 PD-13 | 1BP | 5 Pts
Zambia P2 W0 L2 PD-49 | 0BP | 0 Pts

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Edgar » Sun, 04 Aug 2019, 14:34

It was Zimbabwe's first win over Kenya in four years. As recently as two years ago Simbas crushed the Sables 61-15 in the Zimbabwean capital. But we have got to be honest and say this was a somewhat fortuitous victory for the home-team. The match was hastily rescheduled after Kenya decided it needed to focus more on retaining the Elgon Cup against Uganda - which it ultimately achieved - and the return leg in Kenya is likely to be a very different affair. As a matter of fact I had tipped Zimbabwe to win but that outcome appeared unlikely in the second half as the visitors' bulkier, more mobile forwards gained the upper hand and tenacious defense kept the home-team on the back foot. Handling errors proved costly for Kenya, one try went begging and a late attacking chance ended with a knock-on. Nonetheless, Zimbabwe deserved its victory, and with the Simbas having also dropped a match against Uganda, the Sables' fate will be in its own hands even if it does go down in the return leg. The key match-up will be in 3 weeks when Sables host Uganda's Cranes. Victory there should clinch the title. Zimbabwe are defending champions, incidentally, having cruised to the title in the previous installment eight years ago. Kenya had won the inaugural tournament the year before that. Uganda were also involved in those two competitions, while Zambia are debuting this year.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Edgar » Mon, 05 Aug 2019, 22:17

Southern Kings are taking on the appearance of a rent-a-World Cup warmup opponent as they are now scheduled for three such fixtures over the next month. Following their trip to Tbilisi for a match against the Georgian national team on August 27, the Port Elizabeth-based franchise will face Namibia twice. The first match will take place on Saturday, the 31st of August at the Hage Geingob Stadium in Windhoek. The second is to take place in the coastal town of Walvis Bay at the Walvis Bay High School Stadium on Saturday the 7th of September.

Meanwhile, in Namibia club rugby at the weekend, Wanderers beat Unam 24-21 in a tough encounter at the Wanderers field. Elsewhere, Kudus gave an inspired performance to hold United to a 38-38 draw after trailing 38-24 with five minutes to go, and Rehoboth secured the final playoff spot with a comprehensive 57-14 victory over Reho Falcon in Rehoboth. https://allafrica.com/stories/201908050466.html

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Tue, 06 Aug 2019, 09:44

Don't know if this was already known: a central Africa 7s tournament in Lesotho, with Lesotho, the two Congos, Gabon and Burundi. I suppose this replaces the homologue XV tournament, for this year.
I would have liked the presence of the relatively near Swaziland and Mozambique but nothing to do, this time

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Fri, 09 Aug 2019, 18:19

Canalina wrote:Don't know if this was already known: a central Africa 7s tournament in Lesotho, with Lesotho, the two Congos, Gabon and Burundi. I suppose this replaces the homologue XV tournament, for this year.
I would have liked the presence of the relatively near Swaziland and Mozambique but nothing to do, this time

https://i.postimg.cc/XY8BZ71V/afr-7s.jpg

Very kindly, Lesotho Federation decided to please me inserting Swaziland and Mozambique between the participating nations :) .
Unfortunately it seems they took the place of Congo Kinshasa and Gabon.
Would it be the debut for Mozambique? It's the debuts moment!

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Edgar » Sat, 10 Aug 2019, 13:37

Glad to see it's been re-branded as a Southern African regional competition, rather than Central African, as Lesotho is completely surrounded by South Africa, so that makes more sense. Gabon is West Africa and the Congos are Central, but Lesotho, Swaziland and Mozambique are definitely south.

Mozambique has certainly played at XVs level, but no test matches as such. Earlier this year they defeated Swaziland's Mbabane Cheetahs 48-7 and 69-0. They also played the touring Belsize club from Britain last year, losing 5-17. Here they are ranked the 9th-equal largest nation in the world never to have played a test match. https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/07/20/l ... est-rugby/

As far as 7s goes, they appear to have been involved in a number of informal tournaments in Africa down the years, including this one in Zambia in 2018. No results given, but confirmation the event did take place: http://www.rugbyafrique.com/zambia-rugb ... k-of-2018/ They've also played at the Afrasia 7s in Mauritius, and while this is only an U18 event, it does provide some indication of Mozambique's standing in the game:

Oct 2014 'AfrAsian' 7s tournament hosted by Mauritius.

Time Team 1 vs Team 2
10.40 Mauritius 17 vs 5 Vikings
11.00 Wolves 0 vs 43 Reunion
11.20 Vikings 14 vs 38 Mozambique
11.40 Mauritius 39 vs 12 Wolves
12.00 Reunion 21 vs 7 Mozambique

NB: Reunion v Mozambique would be regarded as a 7s (age-grade) international.


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Meanwhile, the Jaguares XV defeated Valke by 122-19 and remains undefeated in the Currie Cup First Division. :!: :!:

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Edgar » Sun, 11 Aug 2019, 15:35

Kenya: Nairobi's KCB outplayed Menengai Oilers for a 32-5 victory in Dala 7s final at Mamboleo Grounds on Sunday 11 August. Both sides were making the second final appearance and Oilers were in the second straight final having played in the Kabeberi 7s final a fortnight ago.

Finals
Oilers 5-32 KCB

Bronze
Nakuru 0-36 Impala

Fifth place finals
Homeboyz 19-10 Nondies

Challenge Trophy
Mwamba 19-15 Kabras

13th place
Machine 19-17 Kisumu

Main Cup semis
Impala7-31 KCB
Oilers 22-12 Nakuru

Challenge Trophy
Mwamba 36-0 Blak Blad
Kabras 19-14 Western Bulls



More here: https://www.scrummage.co.ke/2019/08/11/ ... -7s-title/

Meanwhile, the sentencing of former Kenyan 7s players Alex Olaba and Frank Wanyama for gang rape has been postponed to August 16 due to extenuating circumstances. Story here: https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2019/0 ... to-aug-16/

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Edgar » Mon, 12 Aug 2019, 15:53

& here is the draw for the Prinsloo leg of the Kenyan circuit.

Prinsloo 7s
Pool A: KCB, Northern Suburbs, Mwamba, Mombasa
Pool B: Oilers, MMUST, Kabras, Egerton Wasps
Pool C: Impala, Nondies, Western Bulls, Strathmore
Pool D: Nakuru, Homeboyz, Blak Blad, Quins

There are no foreign teams, unlike last year when entries from Russia, SA & Uganda were accepted. However, a number of foreign players are involved, including Fijian Timoci Sinaite and SA's Ntabani Dukisa, both with Kabras. Series leaders KCB, from the capital Nairobi, have two Kenyan XVs stars and former national 7s captains in their squad; namely Jacob Ojee and Andrew Amonde. The Prinsloo 7s is slated for 17 and 18th August at Nakuru Athletic Club. Nakuru is the fourth largest city in Kenya, about an hour's drive north-west of the capital.

http://www.scrummage.co.ke/2019/08/12/p ... 7699764311

:!: Update: This press release from the Zambia RU confirms the Victoria Cup match against the Cranes in Kampala will go ahead on Saturday. There has been a lot of confusion over the schedule, due mostly to Kenyan commitments. Zimbabwe currently lead the series which first leg wins against each of its rivals.

LUSAKA, Zambia, August 12, 2019/ -- As the Victoria Cup progresses, Zambia is this weekend set to face off with Uganda in a game to be played at the Kyadondo Grounds in Kampala.
The National Rugby Team which regrouped on Thursday 8th August, 2019 in Lusaka has been training from Lusaka Rugby Club in the Showgrounds Main Arena. All the summoned 30 players have since reported for residential camp and the morale is high. Zambia is yet to record a win after losing all her games played so far (39-10 to Zimbabwe and 43-23 to Kenya). The team departs for Kampala on Wednesday 14th before playing their hosts on Saturday 17th August, 2019 in the East Africa Country.
Back home, rugby fanatics will be watching the ROAN 7s Tournament to be hosted by Roan Rugby Club in Luanshya on the Copperbelt Province. This is the 2nd Tournament in the Zambia Rugby 7s series (the first being the Muf 7s hosted and won by Mufulira Leopards / Mufulira Leopardess Rugby Teams) on Saturday 3rd August in the border town.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Edgar » Tue, 13 Aug 2019, 16:26

Interesting story from the Eaglets to Eagles fb page. I also spent my first years in Paekakariki (where the boys are cheeky, as the local nursery rhyme goes...) :thumbup: ;)

Introducing Ishmael Perkins Bansé, a Ghanaian player in New Zealand
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Ishmael is 19 years old and was born and raised in New Zealand through his mother being a kiwi and his father hailing from Ghana.

Graduating from Wellington College after spending 3 years with their 1st XV and captaining the side in his final year of high school, he was awarded a Rugby Scholarship to Lincoln University in Christchurch - where he currently plays for their Premier Men's team and Premier Colts team.

Ishmael started playing rugby when he was 10 and was born in a small town called Paekakariki - the same town All Blacks great Christian Cullen is from. Ish has played representative Rugby for the Wellington U16, Wellington U18 Centurions and has attended the Hurricanes U17 camp.

Ish is 1.78m tall, 85 kilograms and is a versatility back playing anywhere but the midfield.


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:geek: NB: To my knowledge only two players of African ethnicity have represented the All Blacks. The most recent was Alan Blake, of partial African-American ancestry, who got a run for the All Blacks against Australia in 1949 while the main team was touring SA. The other was Nathaniel Arthur Wilson of Afro-Caribbean ancestry, whose career was considerably more illustrious. "Ranji" made his international debut against the touring Anglo-Welsh side of 1908 and played 10 tests in total. Rated the best loose-forward of his era, he would surely have played in more Tests had war not broken out on the other side of the world. Wilson became a sergeant in the New Zealand forces and was one of the stars of the ‘Trench Blacks’ army team which played a series of fixtures in Europe. This culminated in the Kings Cup tournament in 1919, involving national teams from within the British Empire, and was duly won by the Kiwis. Although he had played against South Africa in that tournament, Wilson was omitted from the New Zealand army team which toured South Africa directly after the war. He was prevented from playing in the US on racial grounds as well. Thus he hung up his boots, but remained involved with the game as a coach and administrator, and served on the All Blacks selection panel. https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/03/22/t ... ll-blacks/

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Neptune » Tue, 13 Aug 2019, 19:02

Edgar wrote:& here is the draw for the Prinsloo leg of the Kenyan circuit.

Prinsloo 7s
Pool A: KCB, Northern Suburbs, Mwamba, Mombasa
Pool B: Oilers, MMUST, Kabras, Egerton Wasps
Pool C: Impala, Nondies, Western Bulls, Strathmore
Pool D: Nakuru, Homeboyz, Blak Blad, Quins

There are no foreign teams, unlike last year when entries from Russia, SA & Uganda were accepted. However, a number of foreign players are involved, including Fijian Timoci Sinaite and SA's Ntabani Dukisa, both with Kabras. Series leaders KCB, from the capital Nairobi, have two Kenyan XVs stars and former national 7s captains in their squad; namely Jacob Ojee and Andrew Amonde. The Prinsloo 7s is slated for 17 and 18th August at Nakuru Athletic Club. Nakuru is the fourth largest city in Kenya, about an hour's drive north-west of the capital.

http://www.scrummage.co.ke/2019/08/12/p ... 7699764311

:!: Update: This press release from the Zambia RU confirms the Victoria Cup match against the Cranes in Kampala will go ahead on Saturday. There has been a lot of confusion over the schedule, due mostly to Kenyan commitments. Zimbabwe currently lead the series which first leg wins against each of its rivals.

LUSAKA, Zambia, August 12, 2019/ -- As the Victoria Cup progresses, Zambia is this weekend set to face off with Uganda in a game to be played at the Kyadondo Grounds in Kampala.
The National Rugby Team which regrouped on Thursday 8th August, 2019 in Lusaka has been training from Lusaka Rugby Club in the Showgrounds Main Arena. All the summoned 30 players have since reported for residential camp and the morale is high. Zambia is yet to record a win after losing all her games played so far (39-10 to Zimbabwe and 43-23 to Kenya). The team departs for Kampala on Wednesday 14th before playing their hosts on Saturday 17th August, 2019 in the East Africa Country.
Back home, rugby fanatics will be watching the ROAN 7s Tournament to be hosted by Roan Rugby Club in Luanshya on the Copperbelt Province. This is the 2nd Tournament in the Zambia Rugby 7s series (the first being the Muf 7s hosted and won by Mufulira Leopards / Mufulira Leopardess Rugby Teams) on Saturday 3rd August in the border town.


Hehehe :lol: , i like it Edgar, the way you are more informed than me, yet im in the country.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Tue, 13 Aug 2019, 20:12

Do you know if Uganda v Zambia will be live and free somewhere?

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Neptune » Tue, 13 Aug 2019, 23:11

Canalina wrote:Do you know if Uganda v Zambia will be live and free somewhere?


It should be on the Kwese website

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