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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 14 Jun 2018, 15:25

Some sweet fake news traveling around: "Morocco voted against South Africa for the RWC..." Ugh ok shipwreck, Morocco doesn't have a vote at the WR Council.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby jameszw » Thu, 14 Jun 2018, 16:06

JLJordaan wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:I believe there were streams last year so I'd imagine it's the same this time around. Lets hope for a competitive qualifying series. No offence to Namibian supporters, but I really hope someone else qualifies this time around.


None taken. In order for Rugby to grow in Africa it is necessary for a new nation to qualify. I really want Namibia to qualify, but otherwise I'd be happy with a big Kenyan team at Japan.

Besides, we may even see three African teams in Japan because the Repechage tournament is setting up to be a tightly contested affair. I rate we can scratch a win against Canada at the moment.



Joordan i agree it would be great if zim won it and Nam came through the repachage. After 2014 when we just missed out the game went into decline we really need this.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby olivier » Thu, 14 Jun 2018, 17:16

Blurandski wrote:Sounds like either the KRU, or Kenyan ministry of sports is corrupt, or both.

It demonstrates ministry of sport don't want to pay instead of Sportpesa. So KRU is bankrolled.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Neptune » Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 05:14

olivier wrote:Wokorach and Okorach missing...


They are concentrating on the 7s in San Fran.....

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby JLJordaan » Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 08:12

Raven wrote: We´ve heard quite a bit of Zimbabwe and Kenya for this tourney, but how has Namibia prepared? do they have a "complete" squad released for the Gold Cup?


Yes, they have announced a team on facebook yesterday that'll face Uganda. Decent squad with players from the European leagues and the Currie cup. https://www.facebook.com/NamibiaRugbyUnion/

jameszw wrote:After 2014 when we just missed out the game went into decline we really need this.


Yeah it's sad how the sport declined in Zim, hopefully you guys can make it as you have a good squad for the GC. You have a good schedule as well, will be watching the Morocco game this weekend.
I really want the African teams to improve, but I guess most countries will focus on 7's. We need to get results against the Euro and Americas teams.

TheStroBro wrote:Some sweet fake news traveling around: "Morocco voted against South Africa for the RWC..." Ugh ok shipwreck, Morocco doesn't have a vote at the WR Council.


True, but the president, Abdelaziz Bougja, is Moroccan. With the amount of West African players playing in France I am not surprised that they voted for them since France provides so many opportunities for the African Francophone nations, whilst South Africa is not doing much.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 08:23

JLJordaan wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:Some sweet fake news traveling around: "Morocco voted against South Africa for the RWC..." Ugh ok shipwreck, Morocco doesn't have a vote at the WR Council.


True, but the president edit: of Rugby Africa , Abdelaziz Bougja, is Moroccan. With the amount of West African players playing in France I am not surprised that they voted for them since France provides so many opportunities for the African Francophone nations, whilst South Africa is not doing much.


Second that. Would have made no sense for Rugby Africa to vote for South Africa. So no Strobro, no fake news.
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby JLJordaan » Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 08:40

RugbyLiebe wrote:Would have made no sense for Rugby Africa to vote for South Africa.


Exactly, and that is actually so sad. I guess it is because SARU is so focused on growing the game within South Africa into other communities. SARU is neglecting the rest of Africa, except for Nam I guess.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Neptune » Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 13:27

JLJordaan wrote:
RugbyLiebe wrote:Would have made no sense for Rugby Africa to vote for South Africa.


Exactly, and that is actually so sad. I guess it is because SARU is so focused on growing the game within South Africa into other communities. SARU is neglecting the rest of Africa, except for Nam I guess.


To play devil's advocate, SARU at least gave the Simbas and the Welschwistas a chance to play in the vodacom cup. Only problem is that now they have shifted it from January to April, which makes it difficult for other African teams to participate, as the season carries on up to June. I wonder if this was a deliberate move to lock out African teams. They also have a quota saying at least 30% of players in the Vodacom cup should be people of colour, I wonder if this applies to the whole of Africa, or just citizens within South Africa.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby victorsra » Mon, 18 Jun 2018, 12:59

Well, to be fair the only T1s that have done something for T2s are Argentina (present in all South American competitions), France (since FIRA times and still playing youth competitions), Italy (Continental Shield for clubs, but nothing on the national teams level) and South Africa (Vodacom Cup/Super Challenge, but they could do much more). Maybe Australian now with the Fijian Drua in NRC (only now and still very few). The rest do NOTHING.
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby JLJordaan » Thu, 21 Jun 2018, 10:06

True, and to be fair, I have forgotten about the Craven week where Nam and Zim schoolboy teams come and play.

I just think a domestic competition with the sub Saharan African teams will really help grow the depth of the teams.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Fri, 22 Jun 2018, 07:45

Rugby in Morocco is in trouble again, the Ministry of Sport has refused to validate the financial audit of the FRMR, which owes sums of money to various people and organisations as well as some undeclared taxable income. It's not the only sport that is in this situation (e.g. badminton, basketball ice hockey etc), it seems that incompetence/corruption in sports administration is rife and some individuals may well be taken to court to account for it.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Sat, 23 Jun 2018, 19:51

La Reunion (or just the club of St.Pierre?) won the title of Champion de France Federale 7s. I don't know how high the level of the competition was but is seems a great achievement

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:Rugby in Morocco is in trouble again, the Ministry of Sport has refused to validate the financial audit of the FRMR, which owes sums of money to various people and organisations as well as some undeclared taxable income. It's not the only sport that is in this situation (e.g. badminton, basketball ice hockey etc), it seems that incompetence/corruption in sports administration is rife and some individuals may well be taken to court to account for it.

This, plus the payments querelle in Kenya: unfortunately african rugby seems unable to escape from these frequent and recurrent problems

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Wed, 27 Jun 2018, 21:01

The Mozambique team losing two months ago against Belsize Park (Eng), 5-17
Maybe the first ever Mozambique XV national team

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby dwpeate » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 16:57

I'm sure this has been asked before but - does anyone know why the Gold Cup isn't played on 5 match weekends a la 6 nations?

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 17:14

Well, it looks clear that the pause in the competition during July is to allow Kenya, Uganda and Zimbabwe to use players in both the Africa Cup and the Rugby World Cup Sevens.
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby dwpeate » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 17:52

Hmm. It was the same last season as well if I remember correctly.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Trendsetta » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 18:05

victorsra wrote:Well, it looks clear that the pause in the competition during July is to allow Kenya, Uganda and Zimbabwe to use players in both the Africa Cup and the Rugby World Cup Sevens.


Kenya stopped sharing sevens and fifteens players around 2010. Only in the 2014 world cup qualifiers, did the sevens players get called up after the series.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 21:16

So if not this why the pause?
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby eal22 » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 23:22

Canalina wrote:La Reunion (or just the club of St.Pierre?) won the title of Champion de France Federale 7s. I don't know how high the level of the competition was but is seems a great achievement

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:Rugby in Morocco is in trouble again, the Ministry of Sport has refused to validate the financial audit of the FRMR, which owes sums of money to various people and organisations as well as some undeclared taxable income. It's not the only sport that is in this situation (e.g. badminton, basketball ice hockey etc), it seems that incompetence/corruption in sports administration is rife and some individuals may well be taken to court to account for it.

This, plus the payments querelle in Kenya: unfortunately african rugby seems unable to escape from these frequent and recurrent problems


I doubt there is any aspect of African society that is free of mass corruption.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Trendsetta » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 23:35

victorsra wrote:So if not this why the pause?


No, I was not denying the cause of the pause. I was just saying your statement should not include Kenya as the beneficiary of the pause. :D

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 29 Jun 2018, 00:41

Oh, ok! But no chance of seeing big sevens names playing for Kenya against Namibia?
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Neptune » Fri, 29 Jun 2018, 02:58

victorsra wrote:Oh, ok! But no chance of seeing big sevens names playing for Kenya against Namibia?


None at all.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby dwpeate » Fri, 29 Jun 2018, 11:41

dwpeate wrote:Hmm. It was the same last season as well if I remember correctly.


The same last season with the games played over 7 rounds but not with a break

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Sun, 01 Jul 2018, 03:47

Africa Cup Silver northern pool, organized by Algeria, will be played in Toulouse, France. It's a bit disappointing

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Buffalo » Sun, 01 Jul 2018, 16:36

Canalina wrote:Africa Cup Silver northern pool, organized by Algeria, will be played in Toulouse, France. It's a bit disappointing

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Well Algeria, Senegal and Côte D'Ivoire are all well known former French colonies so I kinda get the decision. They might get better crowds, access to heritage players and make a little money hosting it in France. Then again it doesn't do anything to really help grow the game locally so it definitely has its downside.

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