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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 01 Jul 2018, 16:44

And the other zone, in Zambia...the "Leopards Cage" is a great name for a venue!

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby eal22 » Sun, 01 Jul 2018, 19:15

Have Namibia got a lot better or is everyone else getting worse? I remember the days of traveling to Morocco being a tough assignment, thinking back to the 16-16 draw that deprived Namibia a place at the 1995 RWC. The Gold Cup seems very much to be a one-horse race this year.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Buffalo » Sun, 01 Jul 2018, 21:50

eal22 wrote:Have Namibia got a lot better or is everyone else getting worse? I remember the days of traveling to Morocco being a tough assignment, thinking back to the 16-16 draw that deprived Namibia a place at the 1995 RWC. The Gold Cup seems very much to be a one-horse race this year.


Namibia found the money to run a full time XVs team(Welwitschias) in the Currie Cup the last few years. Training in a pro environment and playing against South Africans on a regular basis seems to be doing wonders for them.

I'm sure the SARU would be open to the likes of Zimbabwe and Kenya competing if they had the money to participate, as they have in the past. Though the Kenyans would probably need to be based in South Africa as it's a bit of a trek.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Blurandski » Sun, 01 Jul 2018, 22:48

eal22 wrote:Have Namibia got a lot better or is everyone else getting worse? I remember the days of traveling to Morocco being a tough assignment, thinking back to the 16-16 draw that deprived Namibia a place at the 1995 RWC. The Gold Cup seems very much to be a one-horse race this year.



Namibia gets around £0.5m more per year for qualifying for the previous RWC. It's a vicious system, and my big hope post-2023 is that the 20 odd nations behind 6N+TRC get roughly equal funding.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Sick » Sun, 01 Jul 2018, 23:24

Blurandski wrote:Namibia gets around £0.5m more per year for qualifying for the previous RWC. It's a vicious system, and my big hope post-2023 is that the 20 odd nations behind 6N+TRC get roughly equal funding.


Sorry. I think if you would give twice that sum to other african countries for 5 years I think Namibia would still qualify easily.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Blurandski » Sun, 01 Jul 2018, 23:41

Sick wrote:
Blurandski wrote:Namibia gets around £0.5m more per year for qualifying for the previous RWC. It's a vicious system, and my big hope post-2023 is that the 20 odd nations behind 6N+TRC get roughly equal funding.


Sorry. I think if you would give twice that sum to other african countries for 5 years I think Namibia would still qualify easily.


5 years, yes. 20 years?

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby victorsra » Mon, 02 Jul 2018, 00:03

Are the Currie Cup/Super Challenge Welwitschias players semi-pros or something?
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Sick » Mon, 02 Jul 2018, 05:56

Blurandski wrote:5 years, yes. 20 years?


Doubtful. A lot of corruption in Africa. How I see it i think they are at least 10-15 years ahead. I think the countries with the most potential are the ex french colonies. Their players can quickly start playing at higher club level than the other african countries. Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco are full of federale players. They could use the extra money i think. They are so disorganised...

But hey, who knows what might happen in 10-20 years. Maybe they can jumpstart quality a youth program and grow from there.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Thu, 05 Jul 2018, 07:25

Algeria squad
from http://www.aps.dz/sport/75800-rugby-can ... a-surprise

Mamou Thomas, Benamor Nasser, Merabet Mehdi, Belhouari Bekkada, Chellat Sofiane, Saaidia Youssef, Youcef Sofiane, Djebbari Yakine, Abdelkader Sebastien, Medjebeur David, Best Jonathan, Hireche Said, Khalouchi Khaled, Cardon Remi, Meves Frédéric, Atmani Badereddine, Bouhraoua Boris, Maman Lucien, Saby Maubesy Yoan, Kralfa Enzo, Belguidoum Mohamed, Meneghini Maxim, Mouhoubi Mickeal, Chouchane Mehdi, Klouchi Sofiane, Amrani Zakaria, Elbarka Mehdi Abdelahak, Ouchen Djamel, Franquine Jonathan, Caminitai Julien.

Réservistes: Batchali Walid, Aib Djilali, Saieb Beranger.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Fri, 06 Jul 2018, 07:46

A little news about the Madagascar squad, they have 5 French based players:

Les expatriés appelés pour faire le déplacement en Zambie ont tous un gabarit impressionnant. Deux d’entre eux pèsent plus de 120kg entre autres le pilier gauche, Yorhann Ramon­jiarivony qui évolue à Toulouse et Ervard Arthur, pilier droit d’un club à Marseille. Le premier mesure 1,78m et pèse 123kg et l’autre 1,90m et pèse 125kg.

Un autre est encore très jeune, âgé seulement de 19 ans, Cotertin Delaune qui mesure 2 mètres et pèse 115kg, occupe le poste de deuxième ligne dans un club au Nord de la France. Et les deux autres assurent les postes de talonneur et 3e ligne, respectivement Coyande Maxim qui vient de Toulouse, 1,80m et 98kg, et Mamy Ratovoarison du RC Nimes, 1,83m et 98kg.


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No final squad list for Côte d’Ivoire in the norhtern section but this was the squad for preparation

NOM PRENOM POSTE CLUB

1ère ligne
: AKA STEPHANE , 1 , RIEUMES F2
: POUPEAU QUENTIN , 1 , BASSIN ARCACHON
: GARY  ADRIANO , 1-3 , (F1)
: SIDIBE MOHAMED , 1 , TA RC ( Abidjan)
: BROU KEVIN , 3 , NANTES F1
: GBAPO EMMANUEL , 3 , CAHORS
: BRUNERIE MAICOR , 1-2-3 , GENNEVILLIERS
: ADJE PAPE RAYMOND , 2 , RC Yopougon ( Abidjan)
: DOSSO YOUSSOUF , 2 , ORTHEZ
2ème et 3ème lignes
: GORI JEAN-PHILIPPE , 4-5 ,
: N'DA ROMEO , 4-5 , EPERNAY
: OULAI EVRARD , 4-6-8 , BAYONNE
: JOUVE SERGE , 6-7 , SAINT SULPICE
: DIALLO  PAUL , 6-7-8 , NANTES
: MEITE  BAKARIE , 7-8 , STADE Français 
: KOSSE DOV , 8 , NICE
: BARRO MOHAMED , 6-7-8 , TBO ( Abidjan)
Arriéres
: LO JONATHAN , 9-10 , EPERNAY
: COULIBALY ISSAC , 9 , ANGOULEME
: KOUHON DOUHO F. , 9 , RC Yopougon Abidjan
: LEPRI JACQUES LANDRY , 12-13 , RC Yopougon Abidjan
: LOHOURY PAUL , 12-14 , HOUILLES
: Floch Eric , 13-14 ,
: NGBALA FLORIAN , 11-14 , AGEN TOP 14 ESPOIR
: LASME OSCAR , 11 , LAVAUR
: TOURE SALIF , 11-15 , EPERNAY
: ZIE JAMES , 14-15 , CHARTRES
: KOSSE EZER , 15-12 , LORMONT
: KONE CHERIF , 15 , Abidjan
: TIAN SILVER , 15-14-11 , OYONAX

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Sat, 07 Jul 2018, 04:50

Zambia final selection. Apparently no live video for the Silver Cup, both north and south: just live comments on Rugby Afrique social media

1. Ali Bhika (captain)
2. Bertlock Sikaona
3. Oscar Bwalya
4. Edmond Hamayuwa
5. Fernando Kashimoto
6. Bruce Saimbunji
7. Patson Kasonde
8. Rodgers Mukupa
9. Fine Chinkumbe
10. Laston Mukosa
11. Israel Kalumba
12. Jubilee Chisenga
13. Dean Zulu
14. Gift Kabungo
15. Enock Mutembo
16. Patrick Lungu
17. Lawrence Kaushiku
18. Martin Chisanga
19. Jason Thole
20. Edward Mumba
21. Jeremy Badcock
22. Melvin Banda
23. Crispin Chola
24. Mphatso Mwashi
25. Stanley Kalasa

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby sk 88 » Sat, 07 Jul 2018, 10:00

victorsra wrote:Are the Currie Cup/Super Challenge Welwitschias players semi-pros or something?


So its more that these competitions are regularly scouted, as is Craven week which both Namibia and Zimbabwe are involved in, and this helps the Namibian players get into larger SA unions, which are professional or European teams. Lesley Kim at the Ospreys took this route via Doncaster in the RFU Championship.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Sun, 08 Jul 2018, 09:32

Algeria v Senegal (today 16.00 CET) should be live on https://www.facebook.com/LaGazetteDuFennec/

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 08 Jul 2018, 11:56

I don't see the Botswana squad listed anywhere yet but here is a preview news article http://www.mmegi.bw/index.php?aid=76531 ... 18/july/06

It doesn't hold back!

Coaches seem oblivious to the fact that one important skill of a hooker is to throw and the hookers that have been selected do not have that skill. The backs seem like a cut and paste job. There is no established scrum half who can handle the pressure at that level. All the 9s included in the squad have poor defensive capabilities.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Sables4EVA » Sun, 08 Jul 2018, 12:16

Link for the Zambian leg of the Silver Cup

https://www.facebook.com/mufuliraleopar ... 301084708/

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 08 Jul 2018, 15:06

Live stream for Algeria v Senegal at https://www.facebook.com/LaGazetteDuFennec/

Just a fixed camera though with no zoom apparently...

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby dwpeate » Sun, 08 Jul 2018, 15:52

Algeria 22-18 Senegal

Zambia 32-13 Botswana

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Mon, 09 Jul 2018, 19:03

Algeria is certainly the strongest not-WR-ranked nation. I think they would be now around 45th place, if full members.
After them, in an hypothetical "not-ranked ranking", I see Cyprus as runner up. Third place? Maybe Turkey, Slovakia, Estonia or Iran

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby victorsra » Mon, 09 Jul 2018, 19:12

Lebanon and probably Guatemala levels with Estonia, Slovakia, Turkey and Iran.
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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Mon, 09 Jul 2018, 20:32

A test match Niger-Nigeria is said to be played on august 11.
It would be the first apparition of Nigeria after the long suspension

http://sportsville.ng/pages/read_more.p ... -August-11

Now between the best 80 nations of the world just two have not played a match in 2018 nor have a fixture in sight: Sri Lanka and Papua Guinea

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Brigantine » Mon, 09 Jul 2018, 22:28

Canalina wrote:A test match Niger-Nigeria is said to be played on august 11.


Cool. The Regional Challenge tournaments don't appear to be happening in 2018? But test matches are the next best thing.

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 12:01

These are the France based players for Madagascar, the others all domestic based but I haven't found their club details.

Yorhann Ramonjiarivony (Stade Aurillacois),
Evrard Arthur (Rugby club Aubagnais),
Maxim Coyande (US St Sulpicienne),
Corentin Delaune (Rugby club Vannes),
Mamy Ratovoarisoa (Rugby olympique Lunellois),

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby dwpeate » Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 12:36

Brigantine wrote:
Canalina wrote:A test match Niger-Nigeria is said to be played on august 11.


Cool. The Regional Challenge tournaments don't appear to be happening in 2018? But test matches are the next best thing.


They always used to be 7s tournaments til last year or the year before IIRC, I seem to remember one division last year not even happening because two of the teams failing to show - that even happened at bronze level!

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Re: General topic for African Rugby

Postby Canalina » Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 12:52

I think to remember that the regional championship is alternatively one year XV and one year 7s. This season it's time of 7s.
Somehow those 7s tournaments will be also part of the Olympic Games qualifying, or at least Rugby Africa said so

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