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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 03:38

Qualifiers QF
Germany v Uganda
Chile v Hong Kong
Uruguay v Japan
Ireland v Zimbabwe
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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 06:08

Armchair Fan wrote:New sponsor for Russia?

Are Bristol liquor stores owned by Dixy supermarkets, already a RUR sponsor, or is it a completely new one? I see contradictory reports on its ownership and sounds like a little bit complicated.
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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby STMKY » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 06:30

This is a network of shops "near the house". They focus on the sale of alcohol and tobacco. That is, they have a very bad reputation. They deliberately poison people. Not the best choice of sponsor.

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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Thomas » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 08:51

I do wonder how much of this tournament is preparation for Commonwealth games, some of the teams don't seem to be full strength.

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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 09:00

Thomas wrote:I do wonder how much of this tournament is preparation for Commonwealth games, some of the teams don't seem to be full strength.

Except for Fiji and Kenya, teams involved haven't sent their best team to Hong Kong.
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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 09:09

Spain advance to QF for the first time this season. A big part of it due to the young Australian team sent to Hong Kong, but win over Canada was a beauty.
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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Zhenya_Zima » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 10:36

Yes, congrats AF, you boys are safe now (probably were after Dubai!). Now we have to look to overcoming Wales.
Which would at least be a lot more satisfying...

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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 10:40

Sure. Especially if Ireland gets promoted. All Home Nations in the World Series is detrimental to the rest.

BTW, Uganda is particularly disappointing. After their strong showing in Dubai and Cape Town I'd have expected at least some challenge v Germany...
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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 11:45

Q SF, no surprises
Germany v Chile
Japan v Ireland
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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby NedRugby » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 15:42

England v Australia in the quarter-finals tomorrow. Of the trophy.

Well done Spain beating Aus and Canada, not your problem if they throw 2nd string teams at you. I did see part of the Canada game though and I thought they were mostly familiar faces.

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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Gorbeh » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 22:06

Sorry if it is a stupid question, but how are the invitational teams determined? Is it always the highest ranked non core team of the next lower tournament e.g. European Championship 7s Series of the previous year for the European tournaments , or are other factors of more importance. And if the latter is true which are those deciding factors?
(For Hong Kong Korea is only the choice due to Japan playing the qualifier etc). Wouldn't it be better for the growth of the game if for example (if Ireland and Germany reach the final) to invite the losing site to the tournaments to Foster the game on a lower level. Or the winner to help them getting used to the higher playing level for next year. At the moment Ireland is the invited site either way (without implying the final will be GER vs IRE. The semis will be close, hard fought games which can swing either way.
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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 22:14

It's normally that way but isn't always that way. For example ahead of 2016 Olympics Brazil and Japan took preference in invitations as they were going to play in Rio.
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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby victorsra » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 22:31

AFAIK the invited teams are:

- Dubai: best of Africa
- Cape Town: best of Africa
- Sydney: best of Oceania
- Wellington: best of Oceania
- Las Vegas: best of the Americas (in fact, South America)
- Vancouver: best of the Americas (in fact, South America)
- Hong Kong: best of Asia (that is not playing the Qualy tournament)
- Singapore: best of Asia
- London: best of Europe
- Paris: best of Europe

The 2015-16 was different, as Brazil was invited more times as the Olympics host.
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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sun, 08 Apr 2018, 05:31

WOOOOOO F**KING HOOOOOOOOO!!! Sayonara Ireland!!! That's always the danger when you swan along through the competition and then face a team who should be competitive with you that maybe has been average to date. They can pull a big one out of the bag. NZers will have seen this kind of "film" thanks to RWC XVs in 2007 when exactly the same thing happened to us. I thought after some pretty average form earlier in the tournament Japan were due for a big one. I thought even if Japan lost, this game would be the one the Irish might have trouble in.

I think the difference was the 7s experience of Japan. But what a game! Got to give it to both teams. They went toe to toe, and the Irish were bloody unlucky not to score with Roche knocking on from his kick and chase.

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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sun, 08 Apr 2018, 05:47

And Germany, congratulations guys! Maybe without the firepower of Szczesny I thought Germany might struggle but I actually think this team looks better balanced than last year's. They look more comfortable, and dear I say it, "mature". After a dodgy first up win v HKG, they've gone about their business, pretty clinical and effective style.

So now I have my two teams in the final. Maybe I wear my Japan jersey with my German scarf?!! :D But seriously, maybe for the first time ever, I'll go against Japan, having helped Germany in getting rid of Ireland. So c'mon Germany, go get this!

Btw, where's Szczesny?

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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Werner » Sun, 08 Apr 2018, 06:03

YamahaKiwi wrote:Btw, where's Szczesny?
Injured.

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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 08 Apr 2018, 08:23

I'm glad to see Ireland fail, not because of a particular hate towards Ireland or because a T2 will get promored, but because it proves 7s isn't a joke. How would the sport would like if a wealthy nation goes from no program at all to World Cup and World Series spots in four years?

But now more than ever I hope Russia can overtake Wales, otherwise next season's qualifier might be a nightmare.
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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 08 Apr 2018, 08:50

Heartbreaking.
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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby RugbyLiebe » Sun, 08 Apr 2018, 08:54

One bad decision (stupid kick with 0:35 to go) and one wrong ref decision (no diving over as the ball was placed) and all the hard work is lost.
Unbelievable unlucky
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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sun, 08 Apr 2018, 09:04

Oh Germany!!!!!!! YOU BOMBED IT! 2 tries bombed in the 2nd half because you weren't good enough to finish and a stupid kick with 30secs to go. This is a 120% case of shoulda coulda woulda! I do feel SO sorry for the German guys who worked so hard. One feels this year was Germany's best chance to win. Bit of a crap win really because we know Japan will f**k up their season back in SWS and will probably be relegated straight back down again so tbh what a waste of a team to win.

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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sun, 08 Apr 2018, 09:10

RugbyLiebe wrote:One bad decision (stupid kick with 0:35 to go) and one wrong ref decision (no diving over as the ball was placed) and all the hard work is lost.
Unbelievable unlucky


Ref was entirely correct. German player never held his own body weight. It was an obvious penalty. German player needed to slightly slow down as he approached player so that he could keep his feet. Instead he had too much momentum going in and was never gonna stay on his feet.

Also poor miss on Lasila in Japanese 22. Germans needed to make all their tackles in the Japanese 22 and not give them a sniff, and wait fir the Japanese to make the error. Instead the very first time Japan spin it wide there was a 1 on 1 miss and from there Germany were in desperation mode.

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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby germanbullsfan » Sun, 08 Apr 2018, 09:13

The problem of the german team is , they dont have a developt winning mentality . In the important moments they do all the wrong things . Its a mental thing you cant coach!
Im sorry to say they never gonna make it to the WS !

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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sun, 08 Apr 2018, 09:22

germanbullsfan wrote:The problem of the german team is , they dont have a developt winning mentality . In the important moments they do all the wrong things . Its a mental thing you cant coach!
Im sorry to say they never gonna make it to the WS !


They were much better this year with decision making and accuracy, and they looked good in the first half of the final. I think they've won enough (2 finals in 2 years) to know how to win a game, but yeah, finals are different beasts. And one thing Japan know having won this twice before and been in the SWS, is patience and composure, and in both the semi and final they showed all of that. But to win those big games you gotta nail your chances, and in this game Germany just did not do that (It's a huge problem for NZ7s at mo too).

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Re: 2018 Hong Kong Sevens

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sun, 08 Apr 2018, 10:17

This sport breaks my heart sometimes. I don't know, whenever it starts to look like new nations are finally emerging to break into the spotlight the rugby gods seem to strike them down again and the status quo remains. I just feel like in both the sevens and fifteens we're locked into a perpetual cycle of restrictiveness. World Rugby really need to consider 3 teams being relegated in the future, because one is just not enough chances for the sport to grow.

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