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Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Tobar » Sun, 02 Dec 2018, 17:09

Sounds like the Drua is starting to pay some dividends for Fiji. Gets some extra exposure for players who may not otherwise.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Immenso » Sun, 02 Dec 2018, 21:57

Tobar wrote:Sounds like the Drua is starting to pay some dividends for Fiji. Gets some extra exposure for players who may not otherwise.


Particularly important for Fiji for development in positions (Tight forwards and halves) that don't fit the Fijian cliche.

Have so far seen prop Tawake go Drua - > NSW Waratahs > Biarritz
now scrumhalf Lomani possibly going Drua > Wasps. (also linked with Melbourne Rebels)

Good result.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Warpath » Mon, 03 Dec 2018, 01:44

Lomani was with the Rebels, he trained with them weekly, they didn't bother to use him when Genia was out for 4 weeks..hope to see Albert Tuisue get a contract in UK too, he has come a long way since playing NRC for his australian club..Veitokani might be joining London Irish which is a shame, he deserved to be in Gallagher atleast..

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Tobar » Mon, 03 Dec 2018, 02:27

Immenso wrote:
Tobar wrote:Sounds like the Drua is starting to pay some dividends for Fiji. Gets some extra exposure for players who may not otherwise.


Particularly important for Fiji for development in positions (Tight forwards and halves) that don't fit the Fijian cliche.

Have so far seen prop Tawake go Drua - > NSW Waratahs > Biarritz
now scrumhalf Lomani possibly going Drua > Wasps. (also linked with Melbourne Rebels)

Good result.


Apparently their flyhalf signed with an English team, I think Exeter.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby ZUKER » Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 13:17

RRU has just confirmed that young Russian Prop Valery Morozov (15 cap) will join to Sale since Jan 1st with 1Y perm contract. Good for him!

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Tobar » Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 14:12

Always good to see a prop head to a Tier 1 club. Is this his first overseas contract?

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 15:32

Tobar wrote:Always good to see a prop head to a Tier 1 club. Is this his first overseas contract?


He's moving from Europe to Europe. So not an overseas contract. :lol:
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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby amz » Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 15:54

He plays for Enisey

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 15:55

amz wrote:He plays for Enisey

Fair enough. Still no seas to be crossed. 8-)
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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby amz » Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 16:02

La manche?

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Tobar » Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 17:37

RugbyLiebe wrote:
amz wrote:He plays for Enisey

Fair enough. Still no seas to be crossed. 8-)


You're aware that the UK is on its own island, right? :lol:

North Sea, Baltic Sea, English Channel....all water!

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby sk 88 » Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 18:08

RugbyLiebe wrote:
Tobar wrote:Always good to see a prop head to a Tier 1 club. Is this his first overseas contract?


He's moving from Europe to Europe. So not an overseas contract. :lol:


Overseas n the UK would generally mean anywhere not in Great Britain or Ireland. France is definitely overseas for instance.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Tobar » Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 18:51

I was also generalizing overseas as anywhere not home (as an American that is the case for rugby). It just so happens to be the case that I’m still right here!

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Zhenya_Zima » Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 23:52

RugbyLiebe wrote:He's moving from Europe to Europe. So not an overseas contract. :lol:


Like Tbilisi, Krasnoyarsk is in Asia.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby TheStroBro » Tue, 11 Dec 2018, 04:45

RugbyLiebe wrote:
Tobar wrote:Always good to see a prop head to a Tier 1 club. Is this his first overseas contract?


He's moving from Europe to Europe. So not an overseas contract. :lol:


No, he's moving from Asia to Europe. Siberia is you know...in Asia... :D :D :D

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 11 Dec 2018, 09:01

Tobar wrote:
RugbyLiebe wrote:
amz wrote:He plays for Enisey

Fair enough. Still no seas to be crossed. 8-)


You're aware that the UK is on its own island, right? :lol:

North Sea, Baltic Sea, English Channel....all water!


Channel. You said it. Actually you can jump on a train to drive under it, you don't need to cross it :D . Apart from that, I am off course aware of the use of the word overseas. This was a little banter.

And sorry, Russia is and will always be Europe for me (by the way same as Georgia), even if some parts are in far, far, far, far, far away Asia.
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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby amz » Tue, 11 Dec 2018, 09:47

RugbyLiebe wrote:And sorry, Russia is and will always be Europe for me (by the way same as Georgia), even if some parts are in far, far, far, far, far away Asia.

Adenauer wouldn't agree with you ;)

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Tue, 11 Dec 2018, 09:55

Zhenya_Zima wrote:Like Tbilisi, Krasnoyarsk is in Asia.

London is closer to Tbilisi than Krasnoyarsk. Sooo, no! this statement is bull shit.

This logic is beyond my understanding. I can say: Like Tbilisi, Tokyo is in asia.

But you miss one huge matter, Georgia is neither Asia nor Europe, it is in Caucasus or as we like to call it "Kavkasia"...

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby rey200 » Tue, 11 Dec 2018, 10:09

Europe is an idea, because it is on the same continent as Asia, actually. I know, it's an unpopular idea, but from a geographic view it is the only possibility. That's why, at least for me, overseas sounds weird too.
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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby STMKY » Tue, 11 Dec 2018, 14:15

We in Russia do not say that we are a European or Asian country. We are Eurasia. With its own civilization. In Eurasia, there are several civilizations. Western, Chinese, Japanese, Islamic, Indian, and Russian. We are not part of the West.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Zhenya_Zima » Wed, 12 Dec 2018, 23:09

RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:
Zhenya_Zima wrote:Like Tbilisi, Krasnoyarsk is in Asia.

London is closer to Tbilisi than Krasnoyarsk. Sooo, no! this statement is bull shit.

This logic is beyond my understanding. I can say: Like Tbilisi, Tokyo is in asia.

But you miss one huge matter, Georgia is neither Asia nor Europe, it is in Caucasus or as we like to call it "Kavkasia"...


Tehran is closer to Tbilisi than Krasnoyarsk. Sooo, no! this statement is bull shit [sic].

But you miss one huge matter, Georgia is in Asia not Europe, it is in Caucasus or as we like to call it [a geographical nothing] "Kavkasia"...

Sigh. This logic is beyond, well anyone's understanding. It's one of the stupidest arguments I've in fact EVER heard: your equidistance to London/Tokyo defines your continent?! (And London's such a strange choice for such a point: culturally it's way closer to Washington than Brussels [er, Airstrip One anybody?] that this just amplifies the ridiculousness.)


I understand 100% why, politically, culturally, sporting and especially for oh so simple blind nationalism reasons, Georgians will be taught they are European. Hey, there's no other non-EU state I've been to that flies the EU flag outside its parliament or behind its president's desk. (MMMmm, ties)
However, there is no geographer who has ever breathed air (and this discussion was about geography) who would argue Tbilisi is in Europe. (cf. Nicosia, Yerevan, Baku, Krasnoyarsk, er.. Tokyo). Your argument isn't much more than we don't use chopsticks = we're Europe! WTF!? Anyway, although about 2% of Georgia lies north of the Caucasus Mountains watershed, Tbilisi VERY clearly does not. It IS (geographically and physically) located in Asia. It's not an insult. It's just true. Like the Earth being round. It's not something you get to argue. It's just fact.

Anyway, as noted, it's all Eurasia anyway (just not all Europe).

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby STMKY » Thu, 13 Dec 2018, 12:40

I also do not understand the desire of the Georgians to consider themselves Europeans, and Georgia as Europe. Many neighboring nations consider themselves to be self-sufficient civilizations. Russians, Persians, Arabs. Even Jews do not consider themselves Europeans!

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby beber » Tue, 25 Dec 2018, 15:21

Fijian prop Mesake Doge (Timisoara Saracens) to join Brive next summer

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Tobar » Tue, 25 Dec 2018, 19:05

beber wrote:Fijian prop Mesake Doge (Timisoara Saracens) to join Brive next summer


Please keep your posts relevant to the Europe vs Asia debate please

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby NedRugby » Wed, 26 Dec 2018, 00:31

:D
I was going to argue with you, then I realised my humour sensors needed recalibrating.

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