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Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Warpath » Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 10:40

with julian savea coming to toulon, the other bus, tuisova been kicked out by Mourad to Lyon, so happy, toulon do not DESERVE fijians..

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Figaro » Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 11:21

RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:Levan Chilachava signed for Montpellier.


...and the knock-on effect of this was that Dmitri Arhip's proposed transfer there has been cancelled, leading to him signing for Cardiff Blues, probably for less than his real market value.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... i-14787381

Massive scoop for the Blues - glad to see he'll be staying in Wales, even if this is more opportunism than anything else.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Blurandski » Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 22:01

Jesse Van Kampen, the Dutch U20 Fly-half who orchestrated their win over Romania has been signed by ProD2 club Aurillac. https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1007732596808306689

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Figaro » Wed, 20 Jun 2018, 09:34

There will be several few more T2-3 players in the PRO14 next year compared to last year. I count 13 coming in and 8 leaving, possibly only 7 if Arhip does indeed stay in Wales.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2 ... _transfers

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Blurandski » Wed, 20 Jun 2018, 09:45

Figaro wrote:There will be several few more T2-3 players in the PRO14 next year compared to last year. I count 13 coming in and 8 leaving, possibly only 7 if Arhip does indeed stay in Wales.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2 ... _transfers



Off set by 2 in, 16 out in the Premiership, lots of them Samoan, Canadian, and Americans. The Championship is a net gain for tier to with 13 in, 12 out. Top14 is 28 in, 31 out, but with a lot of T2&3 retirements, about 10 fewer players in ProD2 next year as well, seems to be overwhelmingly PI players getting released.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Warpath » Wed, 20 Jun 2018, 17:15

6 new fijians in Pro14 is s a major high, we only lose 3 in tagicakibau, dawai and nacewa

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Figaro » Fri, 22 Jun 2018, 07:56

Blurandski wrote:
Figaro wrote:There will be several few more T2-3 players in the PRO14 next year compared to last year. I count 13 coming in and 8 leaving, possibly only 7 if Arhip does indeed stay in Wales.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2 ... _transfers



Off set by 2 in, 16 out in the Premiership, lots of them Samoan, Canadian, and Americans. The Championship is a net gain for tier to with 13 in, 12 out. Top14 is 28 in, 31 out, but with a lot of T2&3 retirements, about 10 fewer players in ProD2 next year as well, seems to be overwhelmingly PI players getting released.


Of the 8 leaving the Pro14 it seems to be 2 retiring, 4 released, 1 to the premiership, 1 to leagues at a lower level. The 4 released though includes Dimitri Arhip who is apparently signing for the Blues, and Jeff Hassler, who I really think outght to be picked up by another top level team (perhaps again the Blues as they haven't officially signed anyone yet, and have lost a winger this year). With the exception of Hassler and Arhip (both of whom might stay) the leavers are all islanders.

I wonder if there's anything to be read into the movements as a whole? It would be interesting if the numbers have gone up or down in recent years. With islanders (particularly samoa for whatever reason) you also have to take into account that many start off designated as New Zealanders, only to become capped later. They're generally more likely to be capped in Europe than in Super Rugby, so this can lead to the impression that more T2s leave Europe than enter it (because they're not T2s when they enter).

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 22 Jun 2018, 08:36

Figaro wrote:They're generally more likely to be capped in Europe than in Super Rugby, so this can lead to the impression that more T2s leave Europe than enter it (because they're not T2s when they enter).


This sounds absolutely legit.
Also very interesting would be to see how many come as t2 and then become t1. Like Visser or probably one oru the other PI.
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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Fri, 22 Jun 2018, 11:26

Figaro wrote:
RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:Levan Chilachava signed for Montpellier.


...and the knock-on effect of this was that Dmitri Arhip's proposed transfer there has been cancelled, leading to him signing for Cardiff Blues, probably for less than his real market value.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... i-14787381

Massive scoop for the Blues - glad to see he'll be staying in Wales, even if this is more opportunism than anything else.


Levan Chilachava had 1 more year in Toulon, and Montpellier payed toulon for it to get Chilachava. Looks like Altrad is havs a plan to create monster scrum with Nariashvili on 1 and Chilachava on 3. Great forward line:
1 - Mikheil Nariashvili
2 - Bismarck du Plessis
3 - Levan Chilachava

16 - Romain Ruffenach
17 - Grégory Fichten
18 - Antoine Guillamon

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby beber » Fri, 22 Jun 2018, 19:48

RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:
Figaro wrote:
RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:Levan Chilachava signed for Montpellier.


...and the knock-on effect of this was that Dmitri Arhip's proposed transfer there has been cancelled, leading to him signing for Cardiff Blues, probably for less than his real market value.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... i-14787381

Massive scoop for the Blues - glad to see he'll be staying in Wales, even if this is more opportunism than anything else.


Levan Chilachava had 1 more year in Toulon, and Montpellier payed toulon for it to get Chilachava. Looks like Altrad is havs a plan to create monster scrum with Nariashvili on 1 and Chilachava on 3. Great forward line:
1 - Mikheil Nariashvili
2 - Bismarck du Plessis
3 - Levan Chilachava

16 - Romain Ruffenach
17 - Grégory Fichten
18 - Antoine Guillamon


I think you missed Jannie du Plessis

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Fri, 22 Jun 2018, 20:30

beber wrote:
RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:
Figaro wrote:
RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:Levan Chilachava signed for Montpellier.


...and the knock-on effect of this was that Dmitri Arhip's proposed transfer there has been cancelled, leading to him signing for Cardiff Blues, probably for less than his real market value.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... i-14787381

Massive scoop for the Blues - glad to see he'll be staying in Wales, even if this is more opportunism than anything else.


Levan Chilachava had 1 more year in Toulon, and Montpellier payed toulon for it to get Chilachava. Looks like Altrad is havs a plan to create monster scrum with Nariashvili on 1 and Chilachava on 3. Great forward line:
1 - Mikheil Nariashvili
2 - Bismarck du Plessis
3 - Levan Chilachava

16 - Romain Ruffenach
17 - Grégory Fichten
18 - Antoine Guillamon


I think you missed Jannie du Plessis

He is 36 years old... Prop... I dont think he can play next season on the level he used to play. So yes Montpellier is missing some great player...

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby amz » Wed, 27 Jun 2018, 09:40

Mihai Lazar to move to Grenoble

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby suofficer » Wed, 27 Jun 2018, 09:43

Rui D'orey is training with Richmond in the Championship. However, i see no evidence of him signing a contract yet.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Tobar » Wed, 27 Jun 2018, 17:44

This is a few weeks old but Colombia’s Andres Zafra transferred from Lyon to Agen where he’ll hopefully get more playing time. He’s only 22.

http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2018/0 ... res-zafra/

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 27 Jun 2018, 18:56

Psalm Wooching's contract with Viadana has been cancelled. Article states physical issues and was executed by mutual agreement. https://www.onrugby.it/2018/06/27/larri ... e-saltato/

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Warpath » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 05:51

Nemani Nagusa who was dropped by his ProD2 club signs for Newcastle Falcons.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby suofficer » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 15:24

Anton Petrowitsch (Chile) moves from AA Coimbra (Por) to Rotherham

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Tobar » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 16:09

TheStroBro wrote:Psalm Wooching's contract with Viadana has been cancelled. Article states physical issues and was executed by mutual agreement. https://www.onrugby.it/2018/06/27/larri ... e-saltato/


I've heard lots of negative things about him from people in the know. They seem to believe that he's full of himself or thinks he should automatically be given any opportunity in the US but he doesn't have great form.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby sk 88 » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 18:15

suofficer wrote:Anton Petrowitsch (Chile) moves from AA Coimbra (Por) to Rotherham


Presumably has an EU passport then? I didn't think third division clubs could sponsor a visa application?

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 18:49

I believe he is of Swedish origins.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby 4N » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 19:10

Tobar wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:Psalm Wooching's contract with Viadana has been cancelled. Article states physical issues and was executed by mutual agreement. https://www.onrugby.it/2018/06/27/larri ... e-saltato/


I've heard lots of negative things about him from people in the know. They seem to believe that he's full of himself or thinks he should automatically be given any opportunity in the US but he doesn't have great form.


Unfortunate. Still, Seattle should give him a shot. Probably worth the publicity, and he was a good linebacker and defensive captain so attitude issues (assuming that's true) should be able to be straightened out.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Tobar » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 19:38

I heard they offered him a deal and he turned it down

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby 4N » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 19:39

Didn't know that. Seems like the best fit for him even if the money isn't great at first.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 20:52

4N wrote:Didn't know that. Seems like the best fit for him even if the money isn't great at first.

They offered twice. The publicity would be the only thing they need out of that. They need to assemble a coaching staff to either help Phil Mack or just remove the coaching burden from Phil Mack in general so he can just do the scrum-halfing before signing Wooching.

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Re: Tier 2/3 Transfers and Player Movements 2018-19

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Thu, 05 Jul 2018, 16:11

Worcester have made their 11th signing for the 2018-19 season by bringing in Zimbabwe prop forward Farai Mudariki from French side Stado Tarbes Pyrenees.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44727004

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