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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby argie » Tue, 29 May 2018, 18:35

The truth is that none of us knows these players very well, because they have not played in senior yet, and still don't have press. I don't know how much strong they are.
But, as shown, many of the 2016 U20's are now in the roster of Los Pumas, Jaguares, Los Pumas 7's, and Argentina XV.
http://365rugby.net/plantel-de-los-pumi ... l-jwc2016/

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby carbonero » Tue, 29 May 2018, 19:00

It is a crapshoot. For example, they didn’t play other youth sides this year. They faced three Tucuman clubs in pre-season, lost handily against Agen in March and run Argentina XV close in April.

We need better competition in both U18 and U20. The only regional comp we have is one yearly game versus Uruguay.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby BigG » Tue, 29 May 2018, 19:03

argie wrote:The truth is that none of us knows these players very well, because they have not played in senior yet, and still don't have press. I don't know how much strong they are.
But, as shown, many of the 2016 U20's are now in the roster of Los Pumas, Jaguares, Los Pumas 7's, and Argentina XV.
http://365rugby.net/plantel-de-los-pumi ... l-jwc2016/


Does that mean that we should not expect to see small stars like Delguy and Kremer from 2017 squad?

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby carbonero » Tue, 29 May 2018, 20:38

BigG wrote: Does that mean that we should not expect to see small stars like Delguy and Kremer from 2017 squad?
As argie said, we just don't know because we haven't seen them play. The flyhalf Daireaux is supposed to be the next big thing.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:35

Georgia's squad for today's match vs Baby Boks.

1 - Guram Gogichashvili - 1998 - 183cm 115kg - Racing 92, FRA
2 - Levan Papidze - 1998 - 171cm 90kg - Lelo Saracens
3 - Luka Japaridze - 1998 - 180cm 121kg - Lelo Saracens
4 - Beka Saghinadze - 1998 - 192cm 105kg - Lelo Saracens (c)
5 - Lasha Jaiani - 1998 - 200cm 110kg - Exeter, ENG
6 - Tornike Jalaghonia - 1998 - 189cm 100kg - Jiki Gori
7 - Tengiz Gigolashvili - 1998 - 181cm 100kg - RC Armazi
8 - Arsen Machaladze - 1998 - 190cm 102kg - Aia Kutaisi
9 - Gela Aprasidze - 1998 - 175cm 77kg - Montpellier, FRA
10 - Tedo Abzhandadze - 1999 - 177 77kg - Terenure College, IRE
11 - Otar Dzagnidze - 1999 - 185cm 95kg - Aia Kutaisi
12 - Lasha Lomidze - 2000 - 181cm 81kg - Aia Kutaisi
13 - Sandro Svanidze - 1998 - 195cm 100kg - RC Armazi
14 - Demur Tapladze - 2000 - 192cm 90kg - Lelo Saracens
15 - Beka Mamukashvili - 1998 - 185cm 85kg - Lelo Saracens

16 - Tengiz Zamtaradze - 1998 - 181cm 100kg - Lelo Saracens
17 - Giorgi Nutsubidze - 1998 - 178cm 108kg - Lelo Saracens
18 - Giorgi Kharaishvili - 1999 - 188cm 120kg - RC Armazi
19 - Luka Gelashvili - 1999 - 193cm 105kg - Jiki Gori
20 - Archil Abesadze - 1998 - 188cm 95kg - Lelo Saracens
21 - Luka Dvalishvili - 1998 - 166cm 68kg - RC Armazi
22 - Temur Tchitchinadze - 2000 - 183cm 82kg - Jiki Gori
23 - Mikheil Alania - 2000 - 178cm 78kg - Jiki Gori

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby Bogdan_DC » Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:48

Damn props..115-120 kilos at U20 level :).

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 30 May 2018, 11:47

Where and how to watch for all countries:

https://www.worldrugby.org/u20/tourname ... e-to-watch

(maybe stick to the opening post...)
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Wed, 30 May 2018, 12:02

Bogdan_DC wrote:Damn props..115-120 kilos at U20 level :).

Coaches released Stade montois prop Lasha macharashvili who is 190cm 126kg. 1998 born.

This year’s squad has:
Excellent loose head Guram gogichashvili whi signed for Racing last month.
Brilliant Tight heads Luka Azariashvili 185cm 125kg from Montpellier
Very promising Luka Japaridze and Giorgi Kharaishvili from Georgian clubs

Also very promising lock Lasha Jaiani from Exeter Univerity club

Captain Saghinadze is considered as future Lelos flanker. Another very good player is Jalaghonia.

Aprasidze is little diamond on 9

Best Georgian fly half Of the decade Tedo Abzhandadze who left Irish college and will play for Aia Kutaisi for some time until he finds a club.

Backs have some real talent. Noticeable are Lasha lomidze 2000th born, Sandro Svanidze with his physicality and defense. Both centres.
On the wings we have Demur Tapladze also 2000born who has a future.
Temur Chichinadze 2000, very fast.
And Excellent full back Beka Mamukashvili from Lelo Saracens

Overall very young and very talented squad. Who will play next year RWC U20.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby rey200 » Wed, 30 May 2018, 12:26

RugbyLiebe wrote:Where and how to watch for all countries:

https://www.worldrugby.org/u20/tourname ... e-to-watch

(maybe stick to the opening post...)


ah nice overview thx
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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 01 Jun 2018, 07:04

I watched Georgia vs. South Africa. Great result for Georgia, but they could've won it.
I wonder how much better they would be if the Shame Nations wouldn't have pulled out of the U18 Euros and they would've had more practice on the highest level.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby BigG » Fri, 01 Jun 2018, 17:36

RugbyLiebe wrote:I watched Georgia vs. South Africa. Great result for Georgia, but they could've won it.
I wonder how much better they would be if the Shame Nations wouldn't have pulled out of the U18 Euros and they would've had more practice on the highest level.


I am more than sure Georgia in this championship will defeat one from six nations.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby Neptune » Fri, 01 Jun 2018, 20:13

Bogdan_DC wrote:Damn props..115-120 kilos at U20 level :).


It could be body fat rather than lean muscle :P

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby GeoRugby » Fri, 01 Jun 2018, 20:30

Neptune wrote:
Bogdan_DC wrote:Damn props..115-120 kilos at U20 level :).


It could be body fat rather than lean muscle :P

Props have been known to bulk up. Mixture of muscle and high percentage of body fat.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Fri, 01 Jun 2018, 20:52

Neptune wrote:
Bogdan_DC wrote:Damn props..115-120 kilos at U20 level :).


It could be body fat rather than lean muscle :P


Georgia has so many good props and more will appear.
They are not praised by French for their fat. But power in crums.

I Believe Kharaishvili and Japaridze will sign contracts while RWC u20 comes to an end.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby Scoob » Sat, 02 Jun 2018, 06:11

Couple of NZL props are 135 and 145 respectively.Not sure if i can take some of those weights as accurate. The Italian winger Forcassi or whatever his name is,listed at 92kg,he looks like about 110kg.He is built like a barn door.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Sat, 02 Jun 2018, 12:56

Georgia U20 Squad to face France:

1 - Giorgi Nutsubidze
2 - Tengiz Zamtaradze
3 - Luka Azariashvili
4 - Luka Gelashvili
5 - Lasha Jaiani
6 - Sandro Mamamtavtishvili
7 - Tengiz Gigilashvili
8 - Tornike Jalaghonia

9 - Gela Aprasidze
10 - Tedo Abzhandadze
11 - Otar Dzagnidze
12 - Giorgi Tsiklauri
13 - Demur Tapladze
14 - Temur Chichinadze
15 - Beka Mamukashvili

16 - Giorgi Menabde
17 - Guram Gogichashvili
18 - Giorgi Kharaishvili
19 - Archil Abesadze
20 - Arsen Machaladze

21 - Mikheil Alania
22 - Lasha Lomidze
23 - Luka Dvalishvili

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby dropkick » Sat, 02 Jun 2018, 13:44

Scoob wrote:Couple of NZL props are 135 and 145 respectively.Not sure if i can take some of those weights as accurate. The Italian winger Forcassi or whatever his name is,listed at 92kg,he looks like about 110kg.He is built like a barn door.



135kg and 145kg would be too big for the All Blacks. Ireland 2nd choice tighthead, Andrew Porter, was heavier playing U20 rugby than he is now. International teams don't want props carrying unnecessary Kgs. Theres always the Top 14 though.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby Bogdan_DC » Sat, 02 Jun 2018, 19:27

Agree, that is too much. In the past you can see a lot of 130-140kg props, but now is unnecessarily and is not helping them too much.But I reckon I love to see them smashing people in matches :).

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby datodato » Sun, 03 Jun 2018, 12:35

It is incredible how many times France is not on their feet... RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE REF...

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby datodato » Sun, 03 Jun 2018, 12:41

Incredible bs ref...

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby GeoRugby » Sun, 03 Jun 2018, 13:50

FranceU20 beats GeorgiaU20 24-12. France dominated but Georgia defended well.Junior Lelos have to target Ireland game for the win.
I don't think it's impossible.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby BigG » Sun, 03 Jun 2018, 17:15

datodato wrote:Incredible bs ref...


I suggest to watch Argentina vs. Scotland. One more case of incompetent refereeing.
Good that Argies overcame those difficulties. They looked much better than Scotland.

Referees (no matter who or from where they are) always judge in favor of 6N's teams.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby Scoob » Sun, 03 Jun 2018, 18:27

Georgia beating Ireland is possible,but Scotland should be one they will target. The Scots set piece is terrible.Deffinitely a win against a six nations team will be better than a win a over Italy or Japan as will prove something to the old brigade of world rugby.

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby Bogdan_DC » Tue, 05 Jun 2018, 08:48

argie wrote:Well, although if you have been following the evolution of Tomás Lavanini, you can see that under the leadership of Mario Ledesma his level of indiscipline has dropped to almost disappear. So, they need good coaches.


https://www.worldrugby.org/u20/news/338390 :)

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Re: Under 20 rugby world cup 2018

Postby argie » Tue, 05 Jun 2018, 11:31

He also needs a good coach like his brother.

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