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RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:23

So germany get back to within 3 points. Then promptly f**k things up at the kickoff, miss 4 tackles in the ensuing POR attack and then get penalised at the resulting scrum. Luckily POR kicker misses the gimme. :roll:

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby victorsra » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:23

Pretty impressive from Portugal.

No matter the result of this match, Rugby Europe/World Rugby MUST rethink the Qualy system.
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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:24

What happens if it’s a draw?

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby Blurandski » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:25

thatrugbyguy wrote:What happens if it’s a draw?


ET, then a kickoff I presume.
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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby Blurandski » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:26

victorsra wrote:Pretty impressive from Portugal.

No matter the result of this match, Rugby Europe/World Rugby MUST rethink the Qualy system.


What would you want changed? Personally I'd like the 8 qualifier spots to be allocated to continents and not changed no matter who auto-qualifies or not (w/ an exception for Oceania, where three teams are miles ahead of the rest).

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby amz » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:27

victorsra wrote:Pretty impressive from Portugal.

No matter the result of this match, Rugby Europe/World Rugby MUST rethink the Qualy system.


In what way? Allowing Portugal to fail more times vs Belgium?

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:28

Gees, this game is getting worse! Can't believe how lackluster both teams are looking. GER misses touch for 2nd time in game from pen then can't even get their bloody lineout drive sorted. What a pile of drivel. And would someone shut that stupid f**king expat UK bitch on her mbl and tell her if she wants to talk on the ph do it outside the stadium :evil:

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:30

YamahaKiwi wrote:Gees, this game is getting worse! Can't believe how lackluster both teams are looking. GER misses touch for 2nd time in game from pen then can't even get their bloody lineout drive sorted. What a pile of drivel. And would someone shut that stupid f**king expat UK bitch on her mbl and tell her if she wants to talk on the ph do it outside the stadium :evil:


What do you expect given the game was thrown together at the last minute? Neither team had any real sort of preparation for this.

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:44

sean armstrong and Germany. wtf are you doing?!! First playing in your own area, then quick tapping when you had the pen. Do you not know the first rule of rugby when leading by a slim margin at the end of a game is play bloody territory you morons!

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby victorsra » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:45

amz wrote:
victorsra wrote:Pretty impressive from Portugal.

No matter the result of this match, Rugby Europe/World Rugby MUST rethink the Qualy system.


In what way? Allowing Portugal to fail more times vs Belgium?

No. Making no inter-divisions playoffs. It would be bizarre a Trophy team n the RWC after winning just 1 match against Championshio teams.

Pretty possible if the Qualy is NOT the Championship. Maybe a 8 teams Qualy competition in July/August 2022 (after FIFA WC), with 6 Championship and 2 Trophy teams (2 groups, 4 weekends, final in neutral place or at the home of the best team in last Championship... and with players returning to clubs on Ocotber, with a WR deal), receiving all attention, with good stadiums and etc, would be better.
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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby Blurandski » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:49

victorsra wrote:
amz wrote:
victorsra wrote:Pretty impressive from Portugal.

No matter the result of this match, Rugby Europe/World Rugby MUST rethink the Qualy system.


In what way? Allowing Portugal to fail more times vs Belgium?

No. Making no inter-divisions playoffs. It would be bizarre a Trophy team n the RWC after winning just 1 match against Championshio teams.

Pretty possible if the Qualy is NOT the Championship. Maybe a 8 teams Qualy competition in July/August 2022 (after FIFA WC), with 6 Championship and 2 Trophy teams (2 groups, 4 weekends, final in neutral place or at the home of the best team in last Championship... and with players returning to clubs on Ocotber, with a WR deal), receiving all attention, with good stadiums and etc, would be better.


If the 7th best team in Europe can beat the 3rd best then it's completely fair that they should progress further. Obviously since this is 5th best v 7th best it looks a lot closer.

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:51

The entire qualifying system needs to be overhauled.

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby RugbyLiebe » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:53

Germany wins 16:13.
Portugal lost it because of their bad kicker. Oh god, were we lucky today.
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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:53

Unlucky Portugal, better team for most of the game.

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 14:56

victorsra wrote:
amz wrote:
victorsra wrote:Pretty impressive from Portugal.

No matter the result of this match, Rugby Europe/World Rugby MUST rethink the Qualy system.


In what way? Allowing Portugal to fail more times vs Belgium?

No. Making no inter-divisions playoffs. It would be bizarre a Trophy team n the RWC after winning just 1 match against Championshio teams.

Pretty possible if the Qualy is NOT the Championship. Maybe a 8 teams Qualy competition in July/August 2022 (after FIFA WC), with 6 Championship and 2 Trophy teams (2 groups, 4 weekends, final in neutral place or at the home of the best team in last Championship... and with players returning to clubs on Ocotber, with a WR deal), receiving all attention, with good stadiums and etc, would be better.


You forget. To qualify they would have to win the playoff v Samoa. If they lose tat, they still have to win the repechage to qualify. They are NOT qualifying for RWC by beating one Championship team.

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 15:01

I don’t like these one off playoffs, it not a fair system both for teams. There either needs to be a mini tournament held on neutral territory for playoffs, or it needs to be home and away over 2 legs.

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 15:05

thatrugbyguy wrote:Unlucky Portugal, better team for most of the game.


Totally agree. Germany literally stumbled over the line. Portuguese kicker's missed 2nd half attempts cost them the game. have to say as well the ref somehow missed a big knock on from the German left wing idiotically trying to run out of his own 22 with about 5 mins to go.

Germans were lucky someone in their team had half a brain to hoof the ball far down the field and finally play territory. Even then they couldn't even keep the ball in possession and coughed it up twice in the last 3-4 mins. I guess at least they were able to pressure the Portuguese enough down their own end to force the error and the win-confirming try. I still can't believe how many times I saw a Portuguese player step out of a German tackle. v Samoa even in their poor form Germany will get taken to the cleaners if they don't stiffen their D. Samoan guys will just run right through them. I actually was thinking during the game Portugal might be the one who would have a better chance to pull off an upset.

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby frakturfreak » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 15:07

I don’t care how we’ve won. We’ve won. Portugal might have been better on the field but if their kicker can’t kick dead in-front penalties it’s their bad.

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby Thomas » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 15:08

Not the best of games by any means, but a win is a win.. Unlucky Portugal, better team for most of the 80 minutes, Germany just fell over the line somehow.

German Defense shocking, Samoa will ripped them apart. I can see this game settled in the first leg if Germany doesn't sort things out.
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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 15:08

RugbyLiebe wrote:Germany wins 16:13.
Portugal lost it because of their bad kicker. Oh god, were we lucky today.


Did the last try not get awarded? I thought it was 21 or 23-13.

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 15:11

Rugby.eu published final score as 16 - 13, so no on the late try.

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby Thomas » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 15:11

no it wasn't awarded.

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 15:14

thatrugbyguy wrote:I don’t like these one off playoffs, it not a fair system both for teams. There either needs to be a mini tournament held on neutral territory for playoffs, or it needs to be home and away over 2 legs.


At least that aspect has improved from past RWCs where one off playoffs were the norm. I think all this time around are home and away 2 leg ones, except for some reason this playoff. Some people might think it's because of the limited time after the ENC debacle but I'm pretty sure this one was always a one off.

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 15:20

frakturfreak wrote:I don’t care how we’ve won. We’ve won. Portugal might have been better on the field but if their kicker can’t kick dead in-front penalties it’s their bad.


Totally right. Gotta take your points scoring chances and yes, Germany was better in that one vital statistic. Still you guys better sharpen up your bloody act if you even want to have a 10% chance of winning v Samoa, or even in the repechage. at least in the latter case you'll have more time to get better cohesion in the team, that's if you don't do your best impression of tearing yourselves apart again. :roll:

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Re: RWCQ - Jun16th - Germany v Portugal

Postby Lobo » Sat, 16 Jun 2018, 15:49

Congrats to Germany :)

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